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KS Toronado

(17,147 posts)
Thu May 26, 2022, 11:39 AM May 2022

I wonder if a "good guy with a gun" showed up at Robb Elementary?

And what did the police tell him? Do not cross our yellow "CRIME SCENE" tape we found the time
to put up before we found the time to go after the shooter? Surly some parent there had a weapon
in their vehicle and threatened to go get it and go into the school because of the cops inaction.

Currently their excuse is "The door was locked", well did all the windows have locks on them also?
Like to see one or more parents come forward with their stories of "I told the cops I'd go in after
the shooter". Heads need to roll in the Uvalde PD.

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Orrex

(63,172 posts)
1. "The door was locked?" Fuck them.
Thu May 26, 2022, 11:43 AM
May 2022

These fuckers had no means at their disposal to gain entry to b=the room? None at all?

Every fucking cop involved should lose their badge, their pay, their pension, and any possibility of working in any security capacity for the rest of their fucking lives.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
2. Actually
Thu May 26, 2022, 11:50 AM
May 2022

It was reported last night that the door was not locked. I want to know more about the crash. If I am understanding correctly the police where there after the crash and confronted him, that is when he ran into the UNLOCKED school. He had 2 guns. He dropped one by the truck and took one with him. Then the police decided they needed to call and wait for for back up, which was border patrol unit. The know the weapon he had and they fucking waited! The all but gave that murderer an engraved invitation to kill those kids.

KS Toronado

(17,147 posts)
3. My local news said he locked the door behind him.
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:04 PM
May 2022

So where's the real truth? Sometimes I wonder if MSM deliberately puts misleading information
out there for their own petty reasons. It'll be a week or 2 before they all get on the same page.

GregariousGroundhog

(7,512 posts)
8. I would be surprised if he was able to lock the door behind himself
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:32 PM
May 2022

The door locking mechanism in most commercial buildings is a strong electromagnet. One side (the secured side) of the door has a badge reader that disables power to the electromagnet is shut off for 3-5 seconds when an appropriate NFC proximity card is used, and the other side (the unsecured side) of the door has a handle that disables power to the electromagnetic when pressed in.

KS Toronado

(17,147 posts)
10. Question if this door was an electromagnet,
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:48 PM
May 2022

because he did go through it to get inside. Only electromagnet doors locally are Court House, jail
and cop shop. Small towns are different than metropolitan areas.

KS Toronado

(17,147 posts)
13. I do believe it'll be several weeks
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:55 PM
May 2022

until MSM all get on the same page as to all the actual "facts" that happened there.
And FQX will still be lying about it.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
4. Perhaps we should try to get the NRA to organize member cells of goodgunners.
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:04 PM
May 2022

One or two NRA goodgunners for each school and church would be on the police's speed dial. When a terrorist strikes, the senior person at the police station punches the speed-dial button and dispatches the NRA goodgunner to the school to attack the terrorist.

Police who arrive after the NRA goodgunner will fall into line and support the attack.

Mr. LaPointe, please implement immediately.

KS Toronado

(17,147 posts)
5. I like how you think !
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:19 PM
May 2022

Wonder how the police & NRA would respond to your idea, they do use the public at times when
fearing great civil unrest, think Kyle Rittenhouse. Cops who arrive after the goodgunners will be
busy putting up "crime scene" tape, have to get their priorities in line.

crud

(614 posts)
7. I guess the cops just stand by at that point
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:27 PM
May 2022

and let the good gunners and bad gunners kill each other, then they can sort it out later. would make a great news day too, everyone wins. SHEEESH! OMG is this where we are?

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
16. No, the cops fall in behind the NRA goodgunner leader.
Thu May 26, 2022, 01:13 PM
May 2022

This response model builds on Mr. LaPointe's thesis that there are goodgunners in society and they are ready and able to react faster than police.

We should ask him to make a logical extension of his thesis and put it into practice so we can evaluate it.

BumRushDaShow

(128,443 posts)
6. NYT has a breaking that "2 police officers were shot" early on
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:22 PM
May 2022
May 26, 2022, 11:51 a.m. ET
27 minutes ago

J. David Goodman
Two police officers were shot in an early confrontation with the gunman.

Most if not all of the 19 children and two adults who were killed in the Robb Elementary school were believed to have died during the first minutes of a gunman arriving at the school on Tuesday, according to a preliminary timeline compiled by Texas law enforcement officials and described by a person familiar with the investigation.

The gunman did not exchange fire with a Uvalde school district police officer outside the school, according to the timeline. That police officer was not stationed at the school, but was instead in a car nearby and rushed to the scene after the first calls came in to 911 of a gunman near the school at around 11:30 a.m. on Tuesday.

As the officer arrived at the school, the gunman was already approaching, began firing at the school and entered, according to the timeline. Within minutes, other law enforcement had arrived at the school, according to the timeline. Two members of the Uvalde police department entered the school.

The gunman, at that point, had gone inside a pair of adjoining classrooms and was shooting, according to the timeline. The two officers attempted to enter the classroom and were shot. At that point, they fell back as the shooting continued inside the classroom, according to the timeline.


https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/05/26/us/texas-elementary-school-shooting/two-police-officers-were-shot-in-an-early-confrontation-with-the-gunman


I guess after that, the rest gave up and didn't bother going in to be cannon fodder against an AR-15.

When your LEO is out-gunned - this is why the hell these weapons of war need to be banned from civiian use.

BumRushDaShow

(128,443 posts)
14. The GOP loons here in PA in the state House torpedoed a bill they let sit in Committee for a year
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:58 PM
May 2022

and voted to reject even bringing it for consideration because it was designed to ban these war weapons.

And the lazy-ass media here - both print and broadcast - didn't even bother to write their own stories about it and instead relied on AP for it.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
12. if there was a "good guy with a gun" on the scene, the cops probably would have shot him
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:50 PM
May 2022

So there'd be one more fatality to add to this whole horrific clusterfuck.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
17. I want to know,
Thu May 26, 2022, 01:15 PM
May 2022

only heard once on MSNBC this morning, what is an “independent” school resource officer?
Sounds like a paid security guard, who can carry a gun, to fool the parents. I didn’t even know this was possible anywhere, but this is Texas where money is king.

I’m sure, if true, the press will figure this out.

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