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kpete

(72,898 posts)
Fri May 27, 2022, 09:38 AM May 2022

Posted from Uvalde: "We are not a red state. We are a oppressed state."

So, I’ve been trying to decide if I should post or not. I’m from Uvalde, I currently live in Uvalde. I’m a few blocks away from Robb Elementary. I use to pick up my siblings from the school. It’s a poor neighborhood where wild chickens have run of the place. But regardless,

I’ve always felt safe here. I ride my bike around the neighborhood, people are friendly here. It’s a neighborhood filled with Latino families, I’m half Latina. We heard the shots. We knew to stay inside as the reports came in about a shooting on Diez st. Then we heard he was

Chased into the school. We are helpless. The cops do nothing but harass citizens they are suppose to be serving and protecting. I’m disgusted by our mayor sitting with Abbott and Cruz. Throwing bullshit rhetoric of thoughts and prayers. I need people to know.

We are not a red state. We are a oppressed state. Gerrymandering has put the power into the few. Stop telling us to just go vote. We vote. But the system is rigged. We need help. We are being held hostage by this corrupt government. It is such a helpless feeling.

I’m so angry. I’ve been angry. And I feel like I’m just screaming into a void. Abbott and Cruz, let us die in the cold two years ago. They let us die in the ongoing pandemic. And they will continue to let our children die with gun reform because of money.

I don’t know what more I can do. Sorry for this unorganized rant. I just don’t know what to do. #Uvalde #uvaldetexas

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Posted from Uvalde: "We are not a red state. We are a oppressed state." (Original Post) kpete May 2022 OP
fellow Texan here--could not agree more n/t anarch May 2022 #1
+1!!! Dustlawyer May 2022 #42
K&R spanone May 2022 #2
Not quite. State wide offices such as Governor and Federal such as Senate are not gerrymandered. Ninga May 2022 #3
and the suppression of voting anarch May 2022 #22
that's not their only dirty trick FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #30
Not everyone in Uvalde votes lees1975 May 2022 #4
There are various reasons, but harassment isn't LeftInTX May 2022 #47
I liveda in SanAntonio for about 9 years some time ago. Voting didn't seem to be important napi21 May 2022 #51
Gerrymandering and voter suppression . . . . Lovie777 May 2022 #5
+1000 n/t MarcA May 2022 #18
I'm a Texan also - the only way to change things is to VOTE. There is no other way. walkingman May 2022 #6
Any good candidates running against your mayor? IronLionZion May 2022 #7
Are they like the town whose citizens had all those outstanding warrants Lars39 May 2022 #8
Aha!!! I bet that's another strategy designed to short-circuit the right to vote. calimary May 2022 #16
Yep! Lars39 May 2022 #17
No kidding, my friend! calimary May 2022 #24
United States leads the world with 288. Mexico comes second with a whoping 9. Butterflylady May 2022 #45
it's not particularly about the guns; it's the white supremacy anarch May 2022 #23
Ferguson, MO? 2naSalit May 2022 #33
Maybe...I remember there were people trying to pay Lars39 May 2022 #36
That was Florida in particular back in 2020... 2naSalit May 2022 #37
Ah, ok. Thanks! Lars39 May 2022 #38
Needed to be said Traildogbob May 2022 #9
My district, NY 21 mgardener May 2022 #21
Wow she is Traildogbob May 2022 #34
Feel the same in Wisconsin Wild blueberry May 2022 #10
We hear you. We will be with you. This is a turning point. delisen May 2022 #11
I HOPE it's a turning point. calimary May 2022 #25
What gives you optimism that there will be change? Boomerproud May 2022 #41
Thanks so much for posting these profound sentiments. Paladin May 2022 #12
Voting is the perfect solution if our votes are counted equally Novara May 2022 #13
You listed the four ESSENTIAL tasks ahead. calimary May 2022 #26
Back in the early 70's I had to go to the Bell Telephone office in Uvalde (I believe). LiberalArkie May 2022 #14
I think that crap is illegal now. LeftInTX May 2022 #48
This perspective is important. Thank you for posting it. pandr32 May 2022 #15
Sounds like another Ferguson. n/t MarcA May 2022 #19
America is a shooting gallery. Grins May 2022 #20
This Will All Be pressbox69 May 2022 #27
America needs a reboot and quickly. We have been under Minority Rule dugog55 May 2022 #28
I am so sorry. happy feet May 2022 #29
They really don't give a damn FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #31
I continue to say, "texas: the only fascist state in the union". I live in Austin. nt Javaman May 2022 #32
The GOP controls the votes, the voting machines, the electoral maps, the electors. Irish_Dem May 2022 #35
Thank you. BEGALA has said for years: "Texas is not a Red state. It's a non-voting state." UTUSN May 2022 #39
OK, here we are again, another whole thread of comiserating about why we can't get anything done lees1975 May 2022 #40
I live in Texas and couldn't agree more. Gerrymandered maps have ruined us and the judges flying_wahini May 2022 #43
I checked the 2020 election results. BidenRocks May 2022 #44
Yes I read here on DU 60% for trump. One can only hope it will not happen again. Butterflylady May 2022 #46
So weird since a woman, former marine? Who lived doors Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #49
Uvalde has kind of "pockets" of areas. hamsterjill May 2022 #52
That's interesting. Have only been there once... When Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2022 #50
Wait... he was shooting outside and he was CHASED into the school?? By whom?? n/t thesquanderer May 2022 #53
I live in Texas PurgedVoter May 2022 #54
When I listened to some of the interviews the other day ecstatic May 2022 #55

Ninga

(8,974 posts)
3. Not quite. State wide offices such as Governor and Federal such as Senate are not gerrymandered.
Fri May 27, 2022, 09:43 AM
May 2022

The problem IS voting.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,473 posts)
30. that's not their only dirty trick
Fri May 27, 2022, 12:13 PM
May 2022

JFC, when are people gonna acknowledge that G O T V alone is NOT enough ?

lees1975

(6,867 posts)
4. Not everyone in Uvalde votes
Fri May 27, 2022, 09:59 AM
May 2022

The county is 72% Latino, but Latino voter registration accounts for just under half the total. That's typical for Texas, where many Latinos don't register, fearing harassment or accused of being "illegal."

Looking on a congressional district and state district map, you definitely are gerrymandered, as is most of the border area and Rio Grande Valley. However, it is getting harder to do, as the new maps this year proved, a couple of 50-50 districts had to be created in order to preserve the current Republican configuration in Congress and in the state level because most of the population growth that created the need for the new districts is around San Antonio, El Paso and the Houston area, and 80% of new residents were Latino.

I lived in Texas for 25 years, some of that time in those scrub-brush ranch lands southeast of San Antonio. You've got a Democrat who is genuinely working for your interests in Beto O'Rourke. He can't do it alone but he came as close to beating Ted Cruz as any Democrat has done in decades, and people have to help put boots on the ground and get those voters to register and then to the polls.

LeftInTX

(34,007 posts)
47. There are various reasons, but harassment isn't
Fri May 27, 2022, 10:02 PM
May 2022

I had someone say, "No. I don't want to get stuck with jury duty"

I was sent to canvass for our mayor in a very unengaged community. He had no idea who the mayor was.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
51. I liveda in SanAntonio for about 9 years some time ago. Voting didn't seem to be important
Fri May 27, 2022, 11:19 PM
May 2022

to most of the people I worked with. I'm not sure why, but it felt like they just didn't care, or maybe felt their vote wouoldn't change anything so why bother. I HOPE their mindws can be changed thiws time!

walkingman

(10,210 posts)
6. I'm a Texan also - the only way to change things is to VOTE. There is no other way.
Fri May 27, 2022, 09:59 AM
May 2022

I despise my States politics but decades of electing these sorry people got us into this situation.

Bush, Perry, Abbott have turned Texas into a shithole. Not that complicated.

IronLionZion

(50,544 posts)
7. Any good candidates running against your mayor?
Fri May 27, 2022, 10:01 AM
May 2022

This is a good year to make it an election issue

Texas 23rd district is purple. It has elected Dems to congress before and voted for Obama in 2008, Hillary in 2016, and Beto for Senate in 2018.

Uvalde is 78% Latino. Time to encourage those folks to vote Dem and find some sensible balance to avoid school shootings while still being able to shoot wild hogs or whatever they want AR-15s for.

Lars39

(26,478 posts)
8. Are they like the town whose citizens had all those outstanding warrants
Fri May 27, 2022, 10:07 AM
May 2022

for bullshit citations? That very effectively kept people from voting, so that the white people remained in charge.

calimary

(88,669 posts)
16. Aha!!! I bet that's another strategy designed to short-circuit the right to vote.
Fri May 27, 2022, 11:06 AM
May 2022

I never thought of that one…

Devious these gun-jumpers and massacre-machine fans are.

Very devious. Just more to keep in mind, and counter-strategize against.

calimary

(88,669 posts)
24. No kidding, my friend!
Fri May 27, 2022, 11:44 AM
May 2022

I’m having trouble keeping up, too.

How many mass shootings is this, by now,

How many victims, total, from these legions of willful massacres. How many shattered families?

None of these, not one, was an accidental shooting. Not one. Each one was PLANNED pain, death, and bloodshed.

Planned pain.

Lars39

(26,478 posts)
36. Maybe...I remember there were people trying to pay
Fri May 27, 2022, 12:48 PM
May 2022

off outstanding warrants so that people could vote without being arrested.

2naSalit

(99,333 posts)
37. That was Florida in particular back in 2020...
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:03 PM
May 2022

And also Georgia but I think there were other states doing that and people like LeBron James stepped up with (I think) Stacy Abrams to make that happen.

Traildogbob

(12,311 posts)
9. Needed to be said
Fri May 27, 2022, 10:12 AM
May 2022

Same here in NC. Why my district gave you Meadows and Cawthorn. The next batter up is just as bad, full on trumper. And the WNC version of Jesus, worships them. November is terrifying with all the voter theft happening in states like us and Texas. And even if we win, they plan to through out electors, with guns. My apologies to Texans that are not stupid, just that they had their voices thrown out.

Traildogbob

(12,311 posts)
34. Wow she is
Fri May 27, 2022, 12:41 PM
May 2022

Very bad, but all phony, playing a part for trump and his cult. . Meadows and Cawthorn are evil and stupid. Not an act for them. But yea, we have a deep rooted cancer that is being fed fertilizer to root deeper and consume the country. Billionaires, Right wing media and fake religion. Fox is control central.

Wild blueberry

(8,032 posts)
10. Feel the same in Wisconsin
Fri May 27, 2022, 10:28 AM
May 2022

We are oppressed by the GQP minority, ever since Wanker (2010).
Only saving grace is our governor, Tony Evers. We must re-elect him.
Thank you.

calimary

(88,669 posts)
25. I HOPE it's a turning point.
Fri May 27, 2022, 11:47 AM
May 2022

Not all that confident that it is, but I guess one can always hope. Not much encouragement there, though. None, in fact.

Boomerproud

(9,082 posts)
41. What gives you optimism that there will be change?
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:32 PM
May 2022

Is anyone talking about Sandy Hook or even Buffalo any more? I agree 100% with the OP.

Paladin

(32,135 posts)
12. Thanks so much for posting these profound sentiments.
Fri May 27, 2022, 10:47 AM
May 2022

Uvalde is such a good community. I have great memories of the town, going all the way back to my childhood. So sorry this gruesome incident happened anywhere---but it's even worse, happening in a place that I know and admire. God bless the children, the teachers, the families, and the town.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
13. Voting is the perfect solution if our votes are counted equally
Fri May 27, 2022, 10:58 AM
May 2022

But gerrymandering and voter suppression makes sure our votes are not counted with equal weight.

Don't you see it in the differences between public opinion and the representation we actually have? The majority of the country supports abortion; abortion is going to be banned. The majority of the country supports gun restrictions; we have unfettered access to guns now. Republicans get a LOT of money from the NRA and special interest groups and they answer to THEM, not us. That is NOT how it's supposed to be. We are ruled by the minority.

Abolish Citizen's United.

Abolish gerrymandering.

Abolish the electoral college.

Abolish the filibuster.

THEN we'll see our votes count equally; our voices heard equally. Until then, our votes don't count equally and we are ruled by the minority. Turnout won't change that, not that I am discouraging voting, not at all. The more we illustrate the difference between the numbers of democratic votes and our votes not counting, the better chance we have to change it. You can bet if the system was rigged to favor Democrats, it would have been changed long ago.

LiberalArkie

(19,152 posts)
14. Back in the early 70's I had to go to the Bell Telephone office in Uvalde (I believe).
Fri May 27, 2022, 11:01 AM
May 2022

As I was driving through town I drove into an intersection that had a stop light with Green at the top and Red at the bottom. I almost ran it as the light at the bottom was lit.

Was this Uvalde or a town before I got to Uvalde?

pandr32

(13,683 posts)
15. This perspective is important. Thank you for posting it.
Fri May 27, 2022, 11:04 AM
May 2022

Feeling powerless because of oppression, including gerrymandering so one has no representation, is a reality for many. Also, people need to hear that poor, Latino communities (among others) are filled with friendly people--families and others trying their best.

I have heard off-hand remarks about the numbers of "illegals" there--attempting to make the community an exception from "regular" ones. This bigoted baloney needs countering. It is past time for us to normalize the real-people-ness of communities too many consider not "regular". We need to more effectively fold them into the batter.

America is diversity.

Grins

(9,177 posts)
20. America is a shooting gallery.
Fri May 27, 2022, 11:26 AM
May 2022

And you and all of us are merely sitting ducks on a moving train to be picked off.

pressbox69

(2,252 posts)
27. This Will All Be
Fri May 27, 2022, 11:57 AM
May 2022

Forgotten like countless other shootings have been forgotten. Perhaps that will change if there is some sort of major blowout at the GOP/NRA cash orgy this weekend.

dugog55

(360 posts)
28. America needs a reboot and quickly. We have been under Minority Rule
Fri May 27, 2022, 12:02 PM
May 2022

for decades now. CA has 38 million people and two Senators, WY has 800,000 people and two Senators. There are more States like that giving the few way too much control. When the Constitution was created, there were only 13 million people in the original 13 States, there is no way the Founders could have foreseen such a huge population growth or how lopsided things could become. Same with the 2nd Amendment, that was put in to get Virginia to agree, but it was all about slave patrols that were called State Militias. That Amendment should have been eliminated after the Civil War, along with the Electoral College.

We live in oppressed states and pretty much an oppressed country. All because the Constitution is outdated (mostly number wise) and the Right has completely lost its mind over the last 40 years. Having over 700 Billionaires has also pushed us towards on Oligarchy that the Right Wing seems to cherish. Even the rank and file Repubs follow suit and consistently vote against their best interests.

I am angry too, and disillusioned. I do not see this getting any better, only worse. Covid sucks and is going to be here for years. Climate Change is going to make Covid look like a vacation in the next 10-20 years. I am in my late 60's and will probably be gone before things really get terrible, but I have three grown children and four grandchildren that will have to grow up in a hellscape. It is so depressing there are times I just withdraw, I can't hardly take anymore.

happy feet

(1,250 posts)
29. I am so sorry.
Fri May 27, 2022, 12:09 PM
May 2022

My heart breaks for you and the community. As a POC I suspected from the very beginning that the callous disregard by law enforcement had to do with what I guessed was maybe a Latino community. I pray this is the tipping point for Federal Congress---outing the Repubs and specifically Mitch McConnell and the Repub Senate.

I'm sending my supportive thoughts and understanding your way.

Javaman

(64,985 posts)
32. I continue to say, "texas: the only fascist state in the union". I live in Austin. nt
Fri May 27, 2022, 12:29 PM
May 2022

Irish_Dem

(78,574 posts)
35. The GOP controls the votes, the voting machines, the electoral maps, the electors.
Fri May 27, 2022, 12:45 PM
May 2022

And the judges, courts and Supreme Ct.

Wake up America before we lose our kids and this country.

UTUSN

(76,475 posts)
39. Thank you. BEGALA has said for years: "Texas is not a Red state. It's a non-voting state."
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:22 PM
May 2022

Please, I'm aware that the Uvalde native already said she and others *DO* vote, but are oppressed, repressed, suppressed. The non-voting applies to much of the rest of Texas.







lees1975

(6,867 posts)
40. OK, here we are again, another whole thread of comiserating about why we can't get anything done
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:26 PM
May 2022

but what are we doing?

We should have been inspired earlier this week when the Democratic candidate for governor of Texas, Beto O'Rourke, got right in the face of the governor, mayor and all of the law enforcement people fawning all over them, and told them off. They tossed him out and he went, respectfully, but he was given a media platform to keep calling them out. And it has gotten results.

After muttering, grumbling and complaining, Abbott crawled off in a corner, decided not to go to the NRA meeting after all and is now playing the damage control game big time.

There was an admission of a botched response by the law enforcement officials.

There's talk in Congress of getting a background check bill passed. By Mitch McConnell, believe it or not.

This shook them big time. They watch those poll numbers. But let's not quit, let's keep up the pressure.

The very last thing Republicans want in Texas is a "woke" Latino community. Here's the opportunity for the Democratic party to give one to them.

You folks that live in Texas, especially in South Texas in places like Uvalde, where three fourths of the population is Latino but only a fourth of the Latinos are registered to vote, if it takes pounding the pavement to get people to register and go vote, do it!


flying_wahini

(8,236 posts)
43. I live in Texas and couldn't agree more. Gerrymandered maps have ruined us and the judges
Fri May 27, 2022, 06:44 PM
May 2022

rule with us and tell them to change it and they don’t.
More changes have just made it worse. Back to court again over and over.

Nothing changes. People don’t vote anymore. If they thought they could win they would,

BidenRocks

(2,606 posts)
44. I checked the 2020 election results.
Fri May 27, 2022, 07:38 PM
May 2022

Uvalde Co. voted Rep across the board.
Just sayin fwiw.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
49. So weird since a woman, former marine? Who lived doors
Fri May 27, 2022, 10:33 PM
May 2022

From school said it was a good neighborhood. Higher taxes
Said why here where we pay more to live here? Not trying to understand who's correct but obviously it was a completely different story

hamsterjill

(16,875 posts)
52. Uvalde has kind of "pockets" of areas.
Sat May 28, 2022, 10:06 AM
May 2022

You may have a poor area that backs right up to a richer neighborhood. The city has actually grown in the last decade or so. More business. A Walmart. A Starbucks, etc. So, they filled in vacant areas with housing where city utilities were already in place, and depending on the price, it’s either low or higher income.

It is known as the City of Trees. There are several streets that have gigantic oak trees in the middle of the road, the street having been constructed around the tree. So they were ahead of their time in saving trees! It is also known as the “Honey Capitol” as it was once known for producing Huajillo Honey. Just some “fun” facts.

There was a gun store directly across the street from where my dad lived that literally had a sign that said “Guns” on the top and “Liquor” on the bottom. Not sure if that’s still there or not.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
56. That's interesting. Have only been there once... When
Sat May 28, 2022, 09:42 PM
May 2022

we had an accident while on the Frio and drove to a Med center there. I remember it being a pretty town and how cool about the trees!

Response to kpete (Original post)

PurgedVoter

(2,658 posts)
54. I live in Texas
Sat May 28, 2022, 12:08 PM
May 2022

Before I chose this name for my account, I had been purged twice. I don't know about your state but in mine, I have personal experience that tells me the elections are rigged. I am pretty sure they wouldn't be rigging the elections if they didn't need to. So yes, I live in a Dictatorship.

ecstatic

(34,992 posts)
55. When I listened to some of the interviews the other day
Sat May 28, 2022, 12:51 PM
May 2022

I got major authoritarian-state vibes. Parents and onlookers were careful to not share their true opinions. Authority figures were more focused on patting each other on the back.

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