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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThat's it. It's all over. It's a landslide folks.
The swing states are all Obama's, and the red states except for Arizona, Indiana and Missouri (surprise!) stays red.
Obama wins with over 350+ EV's vs Romonoid's 157 EV's.
Bank on it. Put it in right here!
oswaldactedalone
(3,603 posts)I'll settle for 270 though.
Lucy Goosey
(2,940 posts)...but otherwise I agree!
Romneybot 2012 is not going to hit 200 EVs.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)PsychGrad
(239 posts)Who now lives in Missouri, I'm going to bet that MO goes red. I haven't heard anyone outside of my close circle of friends who isn't on the Romney wagon. I have no idea why, honestly, as they are voting against their own interests. I really do believe that they think they are on the edge of being a millionaire, or will be one day, and don't want anything containing their ability to earn at that point. Truth? Not gonna happen. It's VERY rural here, and mostly farmers and factory workers. Hard and honest work, but not gonna make them millionaires - especially considering MANY without even a HS diploma. It's so sad to watch them get scared of Obama and his "otherness" and vote for someone who couldn't care less if they starve or not.
I think Obama will take the cities (Dems usually do here) and the rest, overwhelmingly red. I'm voting anyway, I always do - and have been encouraging everyone else to vote too. I will be up ALL night watching the results, but Missouri won't be a surprise to me unless Obama takes it.
usregimechange
(18,595 posts)cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)e, I definitely think it's a possibility McCain can win. We do have a Dem governor and a Dem senator so there might just be enough blue here to get it done. Dont' put anything past Missouri!
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)out there.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)I have a handful of hardcore RW friends on Facebook who have openly admitted being disgusted by Akin and his rape comments. Also, am seeing signs for other Repub candidates in neighborhood but only about half as many Akin as the others.
Yul A
(94 posts)but ultimately goes red. Obama won't need it, anyhoo.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)I'll bookmark for next week and see you back here.
Zambero
(9,990 posts)"Wouldn't it be nice..!"
I hope your prediction turns out to be correct.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Wednesdays
(22,603 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)...because it blunts the need to work until the last minute for every last vote. This is a close election, and Obama -might- win Virginia and -might- win Florida, but we can't assume anything.
Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)I've learned to take nothing for granted after that shitfest of a farcical World Series
Tutonic
(2,522 posts)and Meat Loafs little bro at Unskewed Polls project a ROmney landslide. Can I take a minute to rant (hijack your post) about Dave Weigel? I saw another post that he had today being negative about Obama--and I have to conclude that Dave is a double agent. Yup. Look at his October 2012 articles on Slate. Boys wavin the Rebel Flag and eatin pork and beans. Thanks.
sheshe2
(97,631 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,270 posts)but I'm not counting my chickens just yet.
jsr
(7,712 posts)AnnieBW
(12,717 posts)Before they're elected!
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)LisaL
(47,423 posts)ecstatic
(35,075 posts)but it's hard to feel that confident when watching cable news.
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)None of this will happen if we don't GOTFV!
GOTV and drag every blue you know along with you!
Loudestlib
(980 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Mail-in ballots in Oregon. We voted a while ago, literally. Also, we do conveniently know who has voted and who not. Vote early and the phone quits ringing and the dead trees quit arriving in the mail.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)I hope every last one blows up in their warehouse. That would force paper ballots.
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)I actually like the machines they have here, which have the touchscreens and the paper printouts. If they have to use e-machines, these would be the ones I'd like to see everywhere.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)for no real benefit. The only use I can see is to have one or two strictly for those who can't use the paper ballot. Specially designed to accommodate as many different disabilities as possible.
Ideally you want to do a hand count in conjunction with the machines DURING the voting period (not as a recount). So why have the touchscreens? The system needs to be made as simple as possible.
K8-EEE
(15,667 posts)But I think he's in a great place to win.
OffWithTheirHeads
(10,337 posts)Nobody I know in Az. Is voting teabag! In fact, the teabags are running from the teabag lanbel.
Hell, I know it's probably not going to happen but I hope anyway.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)And this cycle that populace is even bluer than before.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,189 posts)to turn Arizona blue. Carmona also had a great shot at the Senate. The future is tending blue here.
Autumn
(48,962 posts)I am so sick of all the lies and hype, and I want mitt and his ilk to slither off into oblivion. I just want to skip to Nov. 7th and wake up to President Obamas smiling face all over my TV and life .
CaliforniaPeggy
(156,620 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)I'm still nervous. The words "President Romney" freak me out.
ejbr
(5,892 posts)coeur_de_lion
(3,954 posts)CaliGal
(37 posts)pknorthern
(4 posts)ffr
(23,399 posts)Prove your claim or shut it!
Get off your dead ass and get Democrats to the polls. Something tells me you are not a Democrat, just another forum troll.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)It really does seem to be happening. That said, there is a lot of psychological warfare afoot, so caution noted. Thanks for the concern. But, the 1,000 people who click on this, and the 10% who read part of it, and the 1% who actually read the post, and the one person who actually thinks about it for one second, they won't make a difference.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)"puts at risk all the work, sweat and tears of so many."
Funny!
GObamaGO
(665 posts)GOTV GOTV GOTV GOTV
CaliGal
(37 posts)slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Panasonic
(2,921 posts)But I'm trying to give everyone a positive feeling.
Went straight Democratic ticket on paper ballot, filled the arrow.
Easy enough.
The entire time I was at the voting center, not one used the touch screen that was available (4 of them)
SpankMe
(3,720 posts)...then the Republican party would go into meltdown. They would allege voter and election fraud on a massive scale. They would demand investigations and, where Republicans run the statehouses and governors' mansions, they'd conduct these investigations themselves. They would unilaterally and monolithically ignore and defy the results of the election in a huge "he's not my president" movement. (Think of the birther movement on steroids.) They would go into a total and complete obstructionist mode of operations (making their recent obstructionism look like child's play by comparison), effectively trying to run their own country within a country.
It would be a period of such chaos and sustained civil, political and economic attack that it would essentially be a rebellion the likes of which will not have seen since the civil war.
This is NOT hyperbole. Republicans have been radicalized to the point where I can see something like this happening.
MrModerate
(9,753 posts)And doubt that Republicans in the know would be very enthusiastic. Once you start turning over all the rocks, who knows what you'll expose.
bvf
(6,604 posts)I hope you're not suggesting we not try our damnedest to kick their butts. I for one would love to see them eat each other alive, which would probably be step one of the aftermath in such a blowout. After that, you can bet most of them would just go back to sleep like they always do.
- bvf
nyquil_man
(1,443 posts)If Obama is doing anything but losing, the Republicans will be screaming.
JohnnyRingo
(20,870 posts)He's known for drawing a freehand map of the US in one minute or less. This is my favorite:

I wish it was mine.
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)A rare one where he included Alaska.
JohnnyRingo
(20,870 posts)You must be very proud of it. Congratulations.
I'd love to get one myself.
I have something I'm equally proud of. I have the original "Running Horse" pen & ink from which the Poco "Legend" album cover was made. It was painted by the late Phil Hartman of Saturday Night Live and autographed by the band in pencil. Few people know Hartman was a graphic artist in Canada before he came South to became a comedian.
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)The proceeds went to the Democratic Party. Double plus good.
JohnnyRingo
(20,870 posts)I have the original "Running Horse" pen & ink from which the Poco "Legend" album cover was made. It was painted by the late Phil Hartman of Saturday Night Live and autographed by the band in pencil. Few people know Hartman was a graphic artist in Canada before he came South to became a comedian.
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)I didn't know that about Hartman. Funny guy.
nolabear
(43,850 posts)Up2Late
(17,797 posts)My vote hasn't counted down here in the Diebold state of Georgia since 2000, but you all go knock ' em dead.
tiny elvis
(979 posts)exactly my feelings
unrepresented and thankful for the yankee vote
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)And the Republicans were all excited about Sister Sarah winking at them....

Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Place you "official" bets here:
***** Official Pre-Election Electoral College Vote = Predictions Thread *****
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021644060

Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)
BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)...for THAT to happen!
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Just like Clinton did.

We are conditioned by the media to buy their whole narrative that the states are all solid red or solid blue but the margin is actually a lot closer than they depict so a lot of states flip.
What gets me is I have spent my entire life seeing the blue as Republican and red as the Democrat. They only switched it in 2000 and then acted like the center of the country is red, has always been red and always will be red when it's all a lie. The South put Carter in office. The rest of the country voted for Ford. We have had elections where the loser only carried his home state. California was a Republican stronghold until Clinton and now it's called "The Left Coast". And what gets me is the pundits keep pushing this idea that this country went to the Right after Reagan but they NEVER claim it EVER goes to the left. EVER. Obama won the last time in a landslide but if anybody used that word to describe his win they would NOT allow that to go unchallenged. They have suckered America into believing it was a squeaker.
fujiyama
(15,185 posts)but not quite the one we'll be playing for anytime soon due to population trends and demographics. Several states Clinton did really well in (LA, AR, WV, TN, and KY) have been trending away from Democrats since '00. On the other hand, NC and VA will be swing states and so will CO, and AZ.
Part of the issue was simple racism in the Appalachian states. They're heavily white, poorly educated, and more racist than average and religious zealouts to boot. Obama did better in the deep south due to higher AA populations but he never had a chance in others (it's interesting to see which counties Obama did worse than Kerry in and it was the along the south and Appalachia).
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)The narrative was they were running against a "wartime president" and didn't stand a chance so they ran a guy most people never heard of before the election.
Andy Stanton
(264 posts)It looks like Romney will win all of McCain's states plus North Carolina, Indiana and Florida at least, or 303 - 235. I'll be quite happy with those results. If Romney also wins Virginia and Colorado (281 - 257) it's going to be a late night. I agree with most of the commentators, Ohio will be the deciding state.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Hell,...McCain was GETTING Social Security.
It went like this with the SAME scary black guy:

Andy Stanton
(264 posts)When white people look for someone to blame their troubles on, a large percentage of them assign blame to "the others", usually blacks and hispanics. The Democratic party has long been associated with concern for the downtrodden and, in today's USA, this means blacks and hispanics. These blame assigners almost always vote Republican, which is at this point the political party of white racism.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Obama can still fill stadiums while Romney fills boxes with cans.
BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)We'll be shut out in the South except maybe Virginia, we'll have decent showings in Florida and North Carolina, but still lose both by close margins. We need to win Ohio, Wisconsin, and Nevada (and, of course, hold PA, MI, and MN). That will get us to just over 270. If we can also pick up Virginia and Colorado, then we'll be closer to 290.
ashling
(25,771 posts)will you pay for me to move to New Zealand?
Up2Late
(17,797 posts)
Btw, have you seen the Huff Post poll chart if you use Less smoothing?
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2012-ohio-president-romney-vs-obama#!minpct=40&maxpct=53&mindate=2012-06-03&smoothing=less&estimate=custom
Recursion
(56,582 posts)That would be a weird result
Up2Late
(17,797 posts)but it's just my dream chart, probably not going to happen.
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)Cause if I keep hearing its a close race, with the possibility of votes being flipped, disappeared, or stolen, ...and if I wake up the next day to find out Romney is our new President...I will probably not stop screaming for three days.
Tommy_Carcetti
(44,499 posts)
I hope you're right, but I'll be ready to call it a landslide when I see it.
deaniac21
(6,747 posts)Dallas 59 Buffalo 17 instead of 52 -17
Tommy_Carcetti
(44,499 posts)However, let's not forget this infamous Lett-down:

deaniac21
(6,747 posts)mstinamotorcity2
(1,451 posts)The President is going to WIN!!!! But I believe in Fighting untill 8:00 pm in all time zones. Sorry I want to work until we start playing the drinking game. Anybody know what word or phrase will be used in the Drinking game this time?? I voted already so now its just making sure those of my family and friends get out the VOTE. But I will say that I think there is a State that might get Purple that no one is expecting!!! Those Personhood Bills in the States have really pushed out Women Voters!!!Watch the states with High Rejections of these Bills. Hello Mississippi!!!!!!!!!
Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)here is what makes this possible, one word SANDY. While the jerkass pretender candidate is acting like a mop, our president was being PRESIDENTIAL, this resonated in peoples mind instantaneously that this is a man we can trust especially hearing Gov. Christie a republican Governor singing his praises it woken the nation up knowing that they have a President that cares.
Will go a long way.
FORWARD!
fujiyama
(15,185 posts)I'm being conservative, giving O NH, IA, WI, OH, and all others (MI, PA, MN, etc).
But giving Romney VA, NC, CO, and FL.
I still see the latter category as very possible.
StrongBad
(2,100 posts)SJohnson5677
(7 posts)Archbishop
(41 posts)0% chance of him winning here. This isn't a landslide like 2008. 281 to 257 seems pretty likely. Romney takes Colorado & Virginia.
BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)...Obama will have to win Ohio. It's mathematically impossible to win without Ohio if VA and CO go to Rmoney.