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KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
Sat May 28, 2022, 10:59 AM May 2022

One thing I haven't heard about the Uvalde massacre

in regards to the two adjoining classrooms where all the killings appear to have taken place,
were there any windows the cops could have looked in? Most rooms have them.

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One thing I haven't heard about the Uvalde massacre (Original Post) KS Toronado May 2022 OP
That mom was able to go into the building, get her kids and get out. Presumably she Scrivener7 May 2022 #1
I hadn't heard that one Bayard May 2022 #5
Here. Astonishing. Scrivener7 May 2022 #6
Thanks! Bayard May 2022 #16
Not that hard, actually. Igel May 2022 #7
After reading my own post, had another thought.... KS Toronado May 2022 #2
Yes... 2naSalit May 2022 #3
Yes enough May 2022 #4
School massacres/bloodbaths. niyad May 2022 #8
School construction projects go through an elaborate process of proposal Gaugamela May 2022 #9
I keep thinking there had to be windows KS Toronado May 2022 #10
"Right now DPS does not have an answer for that" ThoughtCriminal May 2022 #11
THANK YOU for the video KS Toronado May 2022 #12
My question is this malaise May 2022 #14
Can't the classroom windows be unlocked and opened from the inside? mainer May 2022 #13
You would certainly think so, in case of fire. KS Toronado May 2022 #15

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
1. That mom was able to go into the building, get her kids and get out. Presumably she
Sat May 28, 2022, 11:05 AM
May 2022

had an inkling about where the guy was.

Bayard

(29,693 posts)
16. Thanks!
Sun May 29, 2022, 12:50 AM
May 2022

I remember her, but hadn't heard anything past her persuading local cops who knew her to turn her loose.

Good for her!

Igel

(37,535 posts)
7. Not that hard, actually.
Sat May 28, 2022, 12:12 PM
May 2022

Go in the building. The rooms without bullet holes in the doors and police standing outside of them? They're fairly safe to enter.

When there are bullet holes in the door and cops standing next to the door, that's all the inkling you need.

By then all the students not in the occupied rooms should have been evacuated. Run, hide, fight. Or the "proper" newer, phrase: "Avoid, deny, defend."


When my kid was in elementary school, I knew what room(s) he was in. A couple times a year there were days where parents were encouraged to go in--start of school, parent-teacher conference days, visit-the-classroom days.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
2. After reading my own post, had another thought....
Sat May 28, 2022, 11:17 AM
May 2022

Would it help our side to start calling them "school massacres" instead of school shootings?
Massacre definition is an indiscriminate and brutal slaughter of people.

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
3. Yes...
Sat May 28, 2022, 11:20 AM
May 2022

Call them what they are instead of sanitizing it so everybody can put it behind them.

Gaugamela

(3,511 posts)
9. School construction projects go through an elaborate process of proposal
Sat May 28, 2022, 12:32 PM
May 2022

and review, with designs being approved by the school board and presented to the public. I can’t imagine any school district or community approving elementary school classrooms without windows, especially in a state like Texas where heat waves are common. I have no doubt that the police were watching through the windows with binoculars and likely with sniper scopes. I’ve wondered about this too. Maybe the shooter was hiding from the windows. This will probably come out in the investigation.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
10. I keep thinking there had to be windows
Sat May 28, 2022, 12:44 PM
May 2022

And if as you said " were watching through the windows with binoculars.....sniper scopes."
and could not see the shooter, then they should have known it was relatively safe
to walk up to the windows and get a better shot at him.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,721 posts)
11. "Right now DPS does not have an answer for that"
Sat May 28, 2022, 01:02 PM
May 2022

Yes, apparently those classrooms have windows. No they haven't explained why the police did not use them.



2:45

Some people are asking DPS why police officers didn't try to shoot the suspect through the windows of these classrooms when they were locked out from these doors. Right now, DPS does not have an answer for that..."

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
12. THANK YOU for the video
Sat May 28, 2022, 01:30 PM
May 2022

This should go viral, I'll be spreading it around. Why didn't they go to the windows?

mainer

(12,554 posts)
13. Can't the classroom windows be unlocked and opened from the inside?
Sat May 28, 2022, 01:51 PM
May 2022

Couldn't students and teachers escape that way? That has to be part of the escape plan, without requiring that glass be broken.

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