Can Pres. Biden play hardball on Roe?

[HariSeldon]

As Commander in Chief of the US armed forces, can President Biden declare that state laws criminalizing or penalizing abortions are contrary to the needs of the US military and, therefore, all military bases located in such states must be immediately relocated to states supporting full rights for military members? Ditto with other federal agencies like NASA?

[jimfields33]

1. No. Even before thinking it's a good idea, the costs would be huge.

[elleng]

2. Right, and a logistical nightmare.

[HariSeldon]

5. Sure it's expensive

But TFG spent how much on a useless border wall? Honestly, this is the kind of situation that discourages those of us who want to see action...Republicans do something horrendous and we say "tsk, tsk...but there's nothing we can do. Sigh."

There needs to be a palpable, negative consequence when state governments work against the will of the decided majority of the country. Otherwise they'll just keep enacting more horrific policies. We need to get a little LBJ mojo, here.

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

3. No

N/t

[ProudMNDemocrat]

4. I am not sure he can...

In states like Texas, Arizona, Mississippi, Utah, North Dakota, Colorado, and Florida, the US Military bases there are major business generators.

I have stayed at Lackland AFB, Luke AFB, Hill AFB, Minot AFB, Grand Forks AFB and they are HUGE! The business it generates off base would be devastated were these Air Force, Navy and Army Bases were to leave.

[HariSeldon]

9. That's actually my point

Stupid action should hurt! Inaction (or mere tut-tutting) just encourages more horrible actions.

[Walleye]

6. What if military facilities offered abortions to civilians. Could the state law prevail?

[HariSeldon]

10. I'd like to see "civilian extraction exercises"

In states like Texas, anyone "assisting" an abortion can be sued under SB8. But if the US military is practicing extracting a civilian in an urban setting (despite the disruption to local traffic, etc. -- too f#÷%ing bad), and that civilian happens to receive on-base medical care the military medical staff needs to practice, anyway, anyone in Texas is left suing the US federal government.

[Walleye]

13. Sounds good. I just know there has to be a way around this bullshit

[ProudMNDemocrat]

16. One needs an authorized Military I.D to get on a base.

With a barcode that is scanned every time.

One must be active duty with an authorized dependent, or Retired with an authorized dependent, as in my case. My husband is retired military.

[mopinko]

7. st ronnie got a national 55 mph speed limit by denying fed funds.

iirc, there was a similar push for a drinking age of 21.
the il-wis border used to be covered in blood cuz it was 18 up there and 21 here.

[MichMan]

11. Wrong; it was Nixon in 1974

[Magoo48]

8. Yes, yes, and yes. Be honest, be powerful and consistent. Speak from the heart.

We must see the end to Dems sacrificing their convictions and core beliefs to the gods of political expediency. Our leaders need to break the suction between their asses and the chairs they sit upon if they are going to lead us into a progressive and Free future. Fuck “excuse me” politics, especially when the hard won rights of 50% of our citizens are about to be wrenched away.

[Budi]

14. Wow. Short memory there. Lets blame the Democratic Party Leaders!!

"Our leaders need to break the suction between their asses and the chairs they sit upon if they are going to lead us into a progressive and Free future"

Who the Fk ignored the Warnings in 2016 when the SC & 50 yrs of Roe was on the line?

Someone should have "broke the suction between their asses and the chairs they sit upon" when the SC was on the line, instead of ignoring it alright. But it sure as hell wasn't our Democratic Party leaders who dropped that ball. They weren't the ones who failed to even mention SC & ROE at all.
Where were they all?

Don't come now for the Dem leaders, just to cover their own asses suctioned to the chairs back when it mattered, that they themselves sat on.

Get the story straight. We all watched it.

We know who shut that warning down.

[Magoo48]

15. No blame, just encouraging honest, enthusiastic direct action.

[Budi]

21. Then save the derrogatory 'blame the Party leaders' game.

Is wasn't the Dem Party leaders who skipped right over the urgency of the SC.

[Demsrule86]

18. In 2016 during my GOTV, I was told not to 'use the courts' that some were sick of it...

Now here we are. It is not Democrat leaders' fault as you said...They and all the rest of us were stabbed in the back. Now there is no solution but to vote Democratic in every election until we can fix this. We need more Democrats.

[Demsrule86]

19. That is bullshit. You can't win everywhere with a progressive message...and we need to

win now. We need a 50-state strategy as Dean ran for the president. And we need all county strategy in every state...we need to go everywhere and shave off votes in red areas. This will allow us to win statewide elections...you speak ideology, and I speak winning. We have some promising areas this year. PA for example Fetterman is a progressive but he has the ability to win. We have a couple of other candidates that are progressive too.

But I merely wish to win at this point. I view holding onto excessive ideology as why we lose. After a primary, all Democrats need to vote for the candidate...and if we say nice things about our elected instead of bashing them perhaps more would be like to vote for our party.

[sarisataka]

12. What states will take on the replacement bases

And give up a million-plus acres (in the case of Fort Bliss) to the Federal government? Or is that part of the hardball? Biden will order states providing abortion services to accept military bases and they will have no say?

[Demsrule86]

17. No, people just keep lookin for the easy...save us...can Biden do this or that. NO get

out and vote...win some f'ing elections and we can codify Roe. You do realize that SCOTUS isn't even allowing Biden to rescind Trump's executive orders. It is up to the American people to take action and show the GOP the door.

[HariSeldon]

20. We did win an election

My fellow local Democrats and I did not manage to oust our execrable representative, but statewide we've got two Democratic senators and a majority of Democratic representatives. Our country elected Biden as president. And now, yes, I want results and not preaching about needing to win more elections.

Additionally, what I'm suggesting is about winning more elections: when Democrats in the majority and with the Presidency look ineffective, then Democrats lose elections. You are creating a Catch-22: we can't be effective without winning more Congressional seats, but we can't win more Congressional seats without being effective.

[betsuni]

23. "My fellow local Democrats and I"

[Skittles]

22. do you understand the purpose of the military?

the answer is no