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Mr.Bill

(24,238 posts)
Mon May 30, 2022, 07:00 PM May 2022

We should change the optics on the gun issue.

Chuck Schumer should put a gun regulation bill on the floor of the Senate every week if not every day. Nancy needs to do the same in the House. Most of the ones in the house will pass. Yes, I know they won't pass in the Senate. But by not bringing bills to a vote it looks to many who do not follow politics as closely as we do like we are doing nothing.

Let's change "Democrats doing nothing" to "Republicans obstructing", and Biden could hit them with it every time he steps in front of a microphone. This is the best opportunity we have had to do this since the Brady bill.

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We should change the optics on the gun issue. (Original Post) Mr.Bill May 2022 OP
Let's change "Democrats doing nothing" to "Republicans obstructing" elleng May 2022 #1
Give gun control efforts and legislation wnylib May 2022 #2
Good one. n/t Mr.Bill May 2022 #3
More honest and important than "Stop the Steal." wnylib May 2022 #6
Yes. FM123 May 2022 #8
I like Stop the Slaughters because wnylib May 2022 #10
Sustained failure does not change things hack89 May 2022 #4
Are you kidding? Mr.Bill May 2022 #5
Exactly taxi May 2022 #9
K&R 2naSalit May 2022 #7
We could call it the Well Regulated Militia mzmolly May 2022 #11
That's good, Mr.Bill May 2022 #12
You have excellent mzmolly May 2022 #13

wnylib

(21,340 posts)
2. Give gun control efforts and legislation
Mon May 30, 2022, 07:17 PM
May 2022

a meaningful name.

Call it "Stop The Killing."

Or, "Stop the Slaughters."

FM123

(10,053 posts)
8. Yes.
Mon May 30, 2022, 07:51 PM
May 2022

And maybe we can refer to the assault style weapons they use to kill children as "school shooters".

wnylib

(21,340 posts)
10. I like Stop the Slaughters because
Mon May 30, 2022, 08:01 PM
May 2022

it bluntly states our goal and what gun control is all about.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
4. Sustained failure does not change things
Mon May 30, 2022, 07:28 PM
May 2022

How is this different from the hundreds of repuke votes to end Obamacare?

Mr.Bill

(24,238 posts)
5. Are you kidding?
Mon May 30, 2022, 07:34 PM
May 2022

It fired up their base enough to elect a moron like Trump and take both houses of Congress and steal the Supreme Court.


I don't expect it to do much in the current situation in Congress. I would expect it to help us hold on to Congress and increase our majorities in November. Every Democratic candidate could yell "Keep up the fight!"

taxi

(1,896 posts)
9. Exactly
Mon May 30, 2022, 07:57 PM
May 2022

It boils down to the question of who will take responsibility? When the dems initiate regulations the r's cast it as dems against all owners of firearms, when they do not the r's cast them as do-nothings and say the dems did not act when they held the presidency, a senate, a state, office, or majority somewhere. OTOH the r's when forced to take responsibility first force dems to define all terms with pinpoint precision, then hold up any legislation for ambiguous terms, and if necessary say it's too close to an election.

mzmolly

(50,978 posts)
11. We could call it the Well Regulated Militia
Mon May 30, 2022, 08:19 PM
May 2022

Act.

Gun nutters perpetually leave out the "well regulated" part of the 2nd Amendment.

Mr.Bill

(24,238 posts)
12. That's good,
Mon May 30, 2022, 08:52 PM
May 2022

but I'm thinking of many laws, on a federal and state level. Look how they have destroyed abortion rights for fifty years. Everything they could possibly think of down to requiring wider hallways in the clinics.

Require insurance to own a gun.
Regulate the actual buildings where they sell guns. Require every gun to be locked in a ridiculously expensive safe overnight. Hell, lock them in a safe even when they are open. Wouldn't want stolen guns to end up in the wrong hands, would we?
Require guns in homes to be in safes.
Background checks that take 60 days. Then a waiting period.
21 years old to own a gun.
Huge tax on ammunition.
Crazy licensing fees on gun clubs and ranges.

That's just off the top of my head. You get the idea. Just as long as no one can accuse us of doing nothing.

mzmolly

(50,978 posts)
13. You have excellent
Mon May 30, 2022, 08:57 PM
May 2022

ideas for regulation. I agree with them all!

I've got no issue regulating the kind of weapons the average goon can purchase, either. Canada has banned a variety of assault-style firearms:

https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/cntrng-crm/frrms/paf-afa-en.aspx

Kinzinger suggested special licenses and training for purchasing AR's. That's a start.

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