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Jilly_in_VA

(14,469 posts)
Tue May 31, 2022, 09:55 AM May 2022

Top Russian Officers: 'You're F*cked, Putin--Motherf*cker!'

Two high-ranking Russian military officers have been caught shit-talking Kremlin leadership in unimaginably colorful language. The two colonels blast the defense minister and lash out at that “motherfucker” Vladimir Putin for his poor strategy in Ukraine, according to a leaked recording of a phone conversation.

While Western and Ukrainian intelligence agencies have routinely reported on plunging morale among rank-and-file Russian troops fighting in Ukraine, many of whom have been heard complaining of dysfunction in intercepted communications, the latest audio appears to be the first to expose frustrations among high-ranking officers.

Radio Free Europe’s Ukrainian service published the curse-laden recording late Monday, reporting that it was provided by Ukrainian intelligence. One of the men heard in the purported intercepted call—identified as Colonel Maksim Vlasov—is no stranger to the eight-year war in Ukraine’s Donbas. He has been wanted by Ukrainian authorities since 2018 for the 2015 shelling of Mariupol—an attack in which he previously implicated himself by carelessly blabbing about it by phone in an earlier intercepted phone call covered by Bellingcat.

The latest recording, dated April 14, is said to show Vlasov and another colonel, Vitaly Kovtun, a doctor at the Naro-Fominsk military hospital said to hold many military honors, raging against the many failures of Putin’s “special military operation” in Ukraine.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/top-russian-military-brass-caught-venting-youre-fucked-putinmotherfucker?ref=home
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Why will the bloated bastard not just DIE already?

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Top Russian Officers: 'You're F*cked, Putin--Motherf*cker!' (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA May 2022 OP
If I were them, I wouldn't go home . .. .. Lovie777 May 2022 #1
They probably have families back in Russia leftieNanner May 2022 #2
They might not Jilly_in_VA May 2022 #3
Probably not requesting asylum Warpy May 2022 #14
In a way, it is a shame that they were outted. Chainfire May 2022 #4
+1 CentralMass May 2022 #5
They were outed because they're dissidents who still blindly follow orders Warpy May 2022 #15
Dissidents of a sort Silent3 May 2022 #17
How good is it when they will be replaced by people who are not moaning, groaning and complaining? Chainfire May 2022 #18
It could well be authentic, but Ukrainian Intelligence is understandably pulling out all stops. Marcuse May 2022 #6
Let's hope . . . AverageOldGuy May 2022 #7
Why? They're still guilty of waging war on Ukraine geardaddy May 2022 #12
They are going to get a call from MF Putin saying Escurumbele May 2022 #8
It sounds as if frogmarch May 2022 #9
K&R, these two characters are a known know Putin Bashers What are they saying now is a bigger... uponit7771 May 2022 #10
They sound like Hitler's generals, don't they? FakeNoose May 2022 #11
Bloated bastard... cilla4progress May 2022 #13
Victims of a drone strike. BidenRocks May 2022 #16

leftieNanner

(16,160 posts)
2. They probably have families back in Russia
Tue May 31, 2022, 09:59 AM
May 2022

Who could be in jeopardy if they defect.

But I bet they wouldn't hesitate otherwise.

Jilly_in_VA

(14,469 posts)
3. They might not
Tue May 31, 2022, 10:00 AM
May 2022

Hundreds, if not thousands, of Russian soldiers are deserting, melting into the Ukrainian and Belarusian countryside, requesting asylum or just "disappearing".

Warpy

(114,648 posts)
14. Probably not requesting asylum
Tue May 31, 2022, 12:59 PM
May 2022

Early in the war, a lot of conscripts simply surrendered, saying that's not what their contract said they'd be doing. The ones who are deserting now have just had enough, are suffering from massive PTSD, and might not have been decent guys to begin with. They are going to be a huge problem in central Europe because there is only one way for a deserter to live: crime.

They're also going to want to avoid capture at any cost, capture means getting sent back to Russia in a prisoner exchange, and that most likely means getting sent back into Putin's war.

Until and unless somebody starts to stick his neck out and organize these guys into groups sabotaging the war effort and planning to overthrow the twits running the show in the Kremlin, this is what they're facing,along with people in the countryside they will prey on.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
4. In a way, it is a shame that they were outted.
Tue May 31, 2022, 10:24 AM
May 2022

Better to have dissidents in office than in the grave.

Warpy

(114,648 posts)
15. They were outed because they're dissidents who still blindly follow orders
Tue May 31, 2022, 01:03 PM
May 2022

even if they do a lot of bellyaching about how stupid those orders are.

Maybe the next brass hats won't be such cowards.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
17. Dissidents of a sort
Tue May 31, 2022, 07:33 PM
May 2022

They sound like they're all for unjustified attacks against Ukrainians, they're just unhappy about not being able to be more effective killers.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
18. How good is it when they will be replaced by people who are not moaning, groaning and complaining?
Tue May 31, 2022, 07:50 PM
May 2022

Bad morale, in any organization, is like a cancer, that spreads rapidly.

Marcuse

(9,052 posts)
6. It could well be authentic, but Ukrainian Intelligence is understandably pulling out all stops.
Tue May 31, 2022, 11:31 AM
May 2022

If it causes problems for the Colonels:

AverageOldGuy

(3,993 posts)
7. Let's hope . . .
Tue May 31, 2022, 11:35 AM
May 2022

. . . we or one of our NATO partners grants these two immediate asylum and protection.

geardaddy

(25,392 posts)
12. Why? They're still guilty of waging war on Ukraine
Tue May 31, 2022, 12:30 PM
May 2022

Just because they're not happy with the Kremlin's plan, they are still warmongers.

Escurumbele

(4,100 posts)
8. They are going to get a call from MF Putin saying
Tue May 31, 2022, 11:41 AM
May 2022

"Some of you are going to die, martyrs of course of the freedom that I shall provide."
~~ Genesis - Foxtrot

Yes, those two better run, it doesn't pay to be right about Putin in Russia.

frogmarch

(12,256 posts)
9. It sounds as if
Tue May 31, 2022, 12:01 PM
May 2022

the shit-talking Russian military officers aren't against the attack, but against Putin's poor handling of it.

Screw 'em all.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
10. K&R, these two characters are a known know Putin Bashers What are they saying now is a bigger...
Tue May 31, 2022, 12:13 PM
May 2022

... question.

Russia is still taking dirt for heavy cost, I don't see them continuing without calling up forces from other wars they've committed to.

Putrid set the expectations high and now has to follow through ... he's stupid

FakeNoose

(41,936 posts)
11. They sound like Hitler's generals, don't they?
Tue May 31, 2022, 12:17 PM
May 2022

I'm talking about the ones that went in front of the firing squad.

cilla4progress

(26,525 posts)
13. Bloated bastard...
Tue May 31, 2022, 12:54 PM
May 2022

We have our own orange one.

May they meet in HELL! Sooner than later!

Why is it so difficult to extricate these known devils????

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