This is an interesting idea. Call it gun regulation instead of gun control.

[Arkansas Granny]

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David Weissman

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Regulations of gun ownership is not an infringement of the 2nd amendment.

5:18 PM · May 31, 2022

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Use the same terms as 2A: well regulated.

[hlthe2b]

1. Gun Safety... not a loaded term.

[Walleye]

2. Or "school safety"

[Arkansas Granny]

6. Referring to regulation was mentioned because it uses language used in 2A.

Those are the words of the Founding Fathers, after all, and the RWNJs seem to revere their words.

[hlthe2b]

7. And gun-humpers perceive the word "regulation" as "confiscation"

[Alexander Of Assyria]

16. NRA has literally erased in a well regulated militia from its edifice at its national HQ...lol.

The loathsome pirates of democracy and the crew that man the pirate ships know what cannonball will sink them…in a well regulated militia are frightening words to them.

[AnrothElf]

3. I agree that should be the main messaging, but...

I'm sticking with "Repeal the 2A and pry guns from cold, dead hands."

I'm done asking for reasonable solutions. They're too easy to blow off. I'm asking for UNreasonable solutions now.

What would actually work, never mind if it's politically feasible.

Canada, NZ, Australia have shown the way. We just need to follow their example

[anarch]

4. confiscate all guns, and exterminate the non-compliant?

just saying...you asked for unreasonable solutions

[AnrothElf]

5. Something like that, yes. Let's say the quiet part of "Never Again"...

Out loud:

Never Again will fail to exterminate Nazis before they can exterminate us.

[sarisataka]

22. Do you consider all gun owners Nazis?

How many are you willing to have exterminated?

[AnrothElf]

23. I consider fascists Nazis

Once the 2A has been repealed, then I consider owners of any then-illegal guns to be criminals.

Ruby Ridge the militias.

Waco the heavily armed cult compounds.

Exterminate the Nazis before they can exterminate us

[sarisataka]

25. This has provided 100% of my RDA

Of irony.

[AnrothElf]

27. If the 2A is repealed then "shall not be infringed" is ...

No longer law.

How is using a democratic process to ban guns, and then enforcing the new law of the land in any way fascistic?

You sound like the Republicans on Reddit calling me a "tyrant" for advocating the democratic repeal of the utterly indefensible 2A?

Intolerance of intolerance is not intolerance.

[sarisataka]

29. You can't see it can you?

Take a step back and read your post until you spot it.

Hint- I haven't said squat about the idea of repealing anything.

[AnrothElf]

31. If you have a point, make it

[sarisataka]

34. You are willing to "exterminate" those

Who don't comply with laws you feel are the solution.

Even assuming a 90% compliance rate, that leaves millions who potentially need to be "exterminated".

Given your models of Ruby Ridge and Waco as examples to follow, families and children are collateral damage.

How is using a democratic process to ban guns, and then enforcing the new law of the land in any way fascistic?

When summary execution is the means of enforcement.

[Fla_Democrat]

35. And...... here it is.

[AverageOldGuy]

8. No. NOT a good idea . . .

All laws dealing with firearms should be called "gun safety" legislation.

Do not use terms such as "gun control" or "gun regulation".

Republicans and gunhumpers oppose all "control" and all "regulation". How can anyone oppose "safety"?

[Ferrets are Cool]

20. "How can anyone oppose "safety"? "

Repugs would oppose sunshine if it were proposed by Democrats. And their constituents would back them up.

[rickford66]

9. No, call it "The Gun Freedom Act".

Like the usual GQP miss-named laws.

[Augiedog]

10. Gun humpers do not understand nuance. You ever seen one interviewed? Good grief.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

17. So true! All they think is a ludicrous thought that there

will be an army battalion going house to house confiscating any gun they can find.

Although that's what it probably would take to get rid of guns in the red part of Texas I am familiar with. I was utterly floored and astounded at the popularity of an auction item at a recent charity event here - woman's concealed weapon purse!

[2naSalit]

11. Safety Regulations...

Legal terminology is important. So I submit that both words used together get closest to the point and can be found in both narratives at odds with each other. In identifying these "terms" we can find the appropriate route to reach the goal. Or so we're taught in policy analysis and mediation classes and the methodology politicians claim to employ.

In this case, though, your idea is a good one because the words chosen will guide the conversation. We need to drive this bus to the station and park it.

[Mr. Ected]

12. Call it whatever the hell you want

But somewhere along the line, if the Supreme Court doesn't revisit its determination in Heller we're just playing a game with gun enthusiasts for time immemorial and the death count will continue to mount.

Stack the Court. Reinstate Roe and overturn Heller.

[Amishman]

14. Overturning Heller is the starting line, not the finish line

Banning them is the relatively easy part - and as we've seen that's pretty damn hard.

Enforcement and removing what is out there is the true challenge.

Reverse Heller and you'll get state level nullification and defiance in 25-30 states, and non-enforcement in the red areas of the rest.

You can't force them to turn them in. Even in areas where law enforcement isn't actively working against it, they will not be interested in putting themselves in harm's way to enforce it.

[Mr. Ected]

15. The strict constitutionalists sure want to twist the language of the 2nd, don't they?

The 2nd Amendment should be interpreted in the manner it was intended. To derive from its words that individuals retain the right to bear arms is a travesty that must be overturned.

[3825-87867]

13. No where in the Constitution

does it say the number of guns you can have. It just says right to bear arms shall not be infringed.

Doesn't say we can't limit the amount anyone can own. Pass a law that limits guns to one per person. No rights have been "infringed".

We can limit the 1st Amendment to "free speech zone" so we should be able to do a Scalia interpretation of the 2nd to limit the number.

[IronLionZion]

18. And appoint judges to agree the militia is our national guard and reserves

and regulate it well

[inthewind21]

28. That ship

has sailed. Loooooong ago

[IronLionZion]

36. Ships come back all the time

[EX500rider]

32. Already been legislated what the militia is

See the Dick Act. The 1903 act repealed the Militia Acts of 1795 and designated the militia (per Title 10 of the U.S. Code, Section 311) as two classes: the Reserve Militia, which included all able-bodied men between ages 17 and 45, and the Organized Militia, comprising state militia (National Guard) units receiving federal support.

[IronLionZion]

33. It doesn't look well regulated

[SYFROYH]

19. This would work if we explicitly rejected gun bans

Otherwise its just the same old thing.

[nowforever]

21. But their guns

are their security blankets...so in order for anything to work you must replace the guns with something that would help them get over their insecurities...I propose we replace the guns with a thinking brain.

[DaveDuhRave]

24. "Shooters License" Regulate the people not the guns

I have always thought that we should be issuing "Shooters Licenses". Just like Drivers Licenses. You can own as many cars as you want but in order to use it you have to be tested, trained and insured.

A "Shooters License" would avoid legislating gun ownership restrictions which (sorry!) will never be passed in this country. It would also provide a path to checking for violent history, mental disorders, etc. just like driver's licenses do.

[gopiscrap]

37. welcome to DU

[Pluvious]

26. Or maybe: Children Slaughter Reduction Act

Let’s see those f*ckers vote against that

[UTUSN]

30. I'm using "management" - gun management. Some things can't ever be fixed or eradicated,

such as crime of all sorts, terrorism, et al. Clueless types make speeches about wiping out different stuff that can only be *managed* at best.