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kentuck

(111,052 posts)
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 07:58 AM Jun 2022

"Our country is going to hell..."

Someday we may see that famous quote in Bartlett's Familiar Quotations?

Why is our country "going to hell"? When the leader of one of the major political Parties in this country talks such trash, how could our country be going anywhere else?

The damage he did in four short years, and continues to do, is immeasurable. The filth that he spread around will take a long time to clean up, if ever?

When we look at all the problems now facing this country, most of it can be traced back to the words and actions of the former guy in the White House. Whether it be inflation, with the high price of gasoline, the war in Ukraine, the loss of respect around the civilized world, the failure to address the pandemic in a meaningful way, or the deep division in this country, it can all be traced to the former guy that called the White House a "dump".

The lies that he spread were worse than the pandemic that enveloped our country. Whenever our country needed to be united, he was always there to tear it apart, with his silly name-calling and childish antics.

If our country is "going to hell", we know who put us on that road.

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"Our country is going to hell..." (Original Post) kentuck Jun 2022 OP
There is a stairway to heaven but twodogsbarking Jun 2022 #1
American oligarchs are funding it. gab13by13 Jun 2022 #2
You are 100% correct. We are corporate owned. overleft Jun 2022 #9
I'm going to go out on a limb and say... ananda Jun 2022 #3
The poor are governed by capitalism, gab13by13 Jun 2022 #6
Republicans and Independents are immolating our country into extinction Mr. Ected Jun 2022 #4
Who used the word carnage in his inaugural address? Boomerproud Jun 2022 #5
Yeah that was foreshadowing underpants Jun 2022 #7
That was the one and only time Dubya said anything remotely intelligent. llmart Jun 2022 #12
The fascists are organized. gab13by13 Jun 2022 #8
I've been wondering how the history books will BigmanPigman Jun 2022 #10
History books? Oh, donno . . . Aussie105 Jun 2022 #15
I expect his history to be: underpants Jun 2022 #19
I largely agree, but I would take the origins of Republican disintegration back to Lindbaugh. Firestorm49 Jun 2022 #11
I would agree that the origins go back much farther but... kentuck Jun 2022 #13
Reagan just without internet and Fox housecat Jun 2022 #25
Oh, the whole world knows. Aussie105 Jun 2022 #14
Many Americans, mostly Democrats, have the same concerns... kentuck Jun 2022 #16
I agree. Biden and Democrat leaders are frozen by "what ifs" housecat Jun 2022 #27
STILL WAITING FOR An Indictment YoshidaYui Jun 2022 #17
The Republican party is trying to drag us to hell. CaptainTruth Jun 2022 #18
Right On marieo1 Jun 2022 #20
Right On marieo1 Jun 2022 #21
Climate change is sending the whole world to hell Kaleva Jun 2022 #22
Has the "Is America on the right track?" question ever been answered "Yes"? Wounded Bear Jun 2022 #23
true, but he had role models like Reagan...and support from Putin and Fox housecat Jun 2022 #24
DU survey says GusBob Jun 2022 #26
In the GOP's handbasket Blue Owl Jun 2022 #28

gab13by13

(21,264 posts)
2. American oligarchs are funding it.
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 08:15 AM
Jun 2022

The GQP hasn't written legislation for decades, it was written by oligarchs. Remember ALEC? Well there are numerous front organizations who write legislation, buy politicians, pick fascist judges. Members of the GQP are not legislators today, they are prostitutes, they are pump handles for oligarchs, they are bull horns of propaganda.

This is why every member of the GQP speaks with one voice, pushes the exact same talking points, they are being coached.

Sheldon Whitehouse gets it, once Citizens United allowed unlimited amounts of dark money into politics the American oligarchs bought the Republican party.

Donald Trump is a pump handle for the American oligarchs, were he to die tomorrow, nothing would change.

I fear we are already in hell, one party is compromised and our Supreme Court is full of partisan fascist judges.

The answer I keep hearing is GOTV, but that may not be enough, GOTV only works for fair elections.

Hell is upon us. Once they gain total power they will not relinquish it.

ananda

(28,836 posts)
3. I'm going to go out on a limb and say...
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 08:23 AM
Jun 2022

We all, as a collective, put us in this horrible place

As a collective, we are all fascists in a way... based
on certain assumptions about capitalism and
ownership.

You can talk me down if you want, but that's how it
looks to me right now.

gab13by13

(21,264 posts)
6. The poor are governed by capitalism,
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 08:50 AM
Jun 2022

the rich follow crony capitalism.

When Walmart came to town I urged my friends not to go there. I have only been in a Walmart 2 times in my life. I still do my best to buy from local mom and pop stores and I buy union made and made/assembled in America.

America isn't capitalistic, it is crony capitalistic. MSNBC fired Dylan Ratigan because he was going across the country exposing crony capitalism.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
4. Republicans and Independents are immolating our country into extinction
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 08:31 AM
Jun 2022

And when democracy lies smoldering in a pile of ashes they'll still point a finger at "liberals and Democrats" as the arsonist.

llmart

(15,533 posts)
12. That was the one and only time Dubya said anything remotely intelligent.
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 10:01 AM
Jun 2022

"That was some weird shit."

gab13by13

(21,264 posts)
8. The fascists are organized.
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 08:54 AM
Jun 2022

I listened to someone yesterday on cable talk about how the fascists are scaring Latinos into voting against Democrats by pushing a Socialism/Communism propaganda narrative. Democrats are way behind the curve in messaging.

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
10. I've been wondering how the history books will
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 09:35 AM
Jun 2022

see these past 6 years. I hope they remember all of the horrible decisions and actions and how harmful he is. His Covid policies alone are enough to look at him negatively. There are so many and I find it hard to remember all of them and their impact on the country.

Aussie105

(5,334 posts)
15. History books? Oh, donno . . .
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 10:19 AM
Jun 2022

How about moral decline, collective insanity?
No one to blame.
Everyone to blame.

underpants

(182,626 posts)
19. I expect his history to be:
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 10:33 AM
Jun 2022

COVID
January 6
Economic (from Dow numbers to his tax cut).

He simply didn’t respect the Office. He had no idea of its power because it was all about him. He will be remembered as a weak President.

kentuck

(111,052 posts)
13. I would agree that the origins go back much farther but...
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 10:07 AM
Jun 2022

....Trump was the catalyst that was able to spark the hatred and division unlike any other Republican up to this point. It took a certain talent for evil to do what he did.

Aussie105

(5,334 posts)
14. Oh, the whole world knows.
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 10:16 AM
Jun 2022

Knows where the US is now, where it has been, and how it came to be the way it is today.

But if the world could speak with one voice it would say . . . .

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?

Personally, I have seen no determination to change things. Not from Joe, and not from anyone down from his position as POTUS.


kentuck

(111,052 posts)
16. Many Americans, mostly Democrats, have the same concerns...
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 10:19 AM
Jun 2022

But are distracted by political realities. One political Party cannot build anything by itself - it can only destroy.

YoshidaYui

(41,818 posts)
17. STILL WAITING FOR An Indictment
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 10:22 AM
Jun 2022

he has a date with the Justice department, who has some nice shiny wrist cuffs for him.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
20. Right On
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 10:41 AM
Jun 2022

Kentuck......thank you, you have spoken exactly how I feel..........DJT was not good for our country and he is still trying to get back into politics. I don't understand why our country doesn't lock up these degenerates......DJT doesn't care about our dear ole USA all he worships is MONEY and how to get it. He is a wasted human being!!!

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
21. Right On
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 10:41 AM
Jun 2022

Kentuck......thank you, you have spoken exactly how I feel..........DJT was not good for our country and he is still trying to get back into politics. I don't understand why our country doesn't lock up these degenerates......DJT doesn't care about our dear ole USA all he worships is MONEY and how to get it. He is a wasted human being!!!

Wounded Bear

(58,603 posts)
23. Has the "Is America on the right track?" question ever been answered "Yes"?
Wed Jun 1, 2022, 10:47 AM
Jun 2022

Always one of the dumbest questions I can think of to put on a poll, and they always seem to come back at about 55-60% "Hell NO!"

And they always seem to ask it when Dems are in the crosshairs so repubs can point and say, "See! It's their fault!"

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