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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsListen up, New York -- Florida sucks, and you'll all be back in five years
As The Post reported, a record 61,728 New York State residents fled to the Sunshine State last year, a number likely to rise in 2022. Lower taxes! Schools without masks! No shoebox-size apartments that cost more to rent than it took to build Hudson Yards!
Youll all be sorry. As Jason Mudrick, head of Madison Avenue-based Mudrick Capital Management, put it, The main problem with moving to Florida is that you have to live in Florida.
https://nypost.com/2022/06/01/what-every-new-yorker-moving-to-florida-should-know/
essaynnc
(801 posts)Stop in North Carolina! Let's turn it blue.. Nice climate climate, reasonable price of living, and we're so close to being blue! I figure if a couple of 1000 new yorkers move here and vote, will do it.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Then it's game over for Rethugs, at least in the one election that really counts!!!
llmart
(15,536 posts)I lived there once and would again if I saw it was becoming more progressive rather than regressive.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)nearly halfway in 2016. If new Hispanic and other voters hadn't broken FOR the tRumpists' racist authoritarian nationalism...
Since you've lived there, you'll recognize the real truth in this article of course -- not including the silly notion that northern migrants typically live on disappearing waterfront property of course.
Florida's really different, and we've seen a lot of people return to what they threw away so thoughtlessly, like friends and family. And pay through the nose to return to what they thought they were done with, like retired people missing two-story houses and preferring being closed in by winter snow and ice to summer's blast-furnace heat.
DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)I cringe every time a left leaner says they are moving south to a red state. No way.
3Hotdogs
(12,374 posts)I drove to see him after his terminal diagnosis.
He took me for a tour around the development. Roads were in a state of decay... potholes, and blacktop that was worn to expose dirt.
Then we drove to the golf course. 18 holes were reduced to 3 because there was no money to maintain the 15 former holes. At the entrance to the "course" were two signs... "Beware of alligators" and Beware of rattlesnakes."
Fuck that.
mitch96
(13,892 posts)llmart
(15,536 posts)I am very close to my son and would love to live closer to him going into my old age, but I've told people for years that I'd never live in Florida unless I absolutely had to. Too hot for my liking. I have neighbors who go to Florida for the winter and I noticed that some of them are coming back north earlier and earlier in the spring. When I mention it to them they all say, "It's already too hot down there" (April 1st) and a couple of them said they were bored. We're all seniors in my community.
mitch96
(13,892 posts)cornball 24
(1,475 posts)peppertree
(21,624 posts)The Swamp of America - in more ways than one.
Its hot and humid just like Missouri, only starts earlier in FL. Why would I move from one red state to another. People moving to FL from NY doesnt mean they are all democrats leaving. Likely a lot of republicans are leaving.
Diamond_Dog
(31,979 posts)My state is no paradise, but Ive been to Florida on vacations 6-7 times because my husband loves it.
Its too hot, too buggy, too many nutty conservatives, and with the threat of hurricanes, no.
Rebl2
(13,492 posts)of times I went in my early 20s to Fl (to visit a boyfriend) it was great, except I wasnt crazy about the huge bugs and already very humid in May. It was the early eighties and not really aware of FL politics then. I was aware of the boyfriends though-republican. It would have never worked.
lark
(23,094 posts)if you weren't raised in the searing heat and humidity it can be impossible to deal with. So, unless they are rich and can live on a lake or beach with those nice breezes, they will be unbelievably hot and uncomfortable. And the cars where there is no shade - Oh my - the plasma that is the driving wheel can't be touched with the hands. It will sear them! You have to have wheel covers and always use the big sunshades across the front of the window. People in FL have perfected the art of driving with their finger tips, lol.
It's where my family is, it's where I own a decent house and it's where I was raised, but if it wasn't for the family I wouldn't be here. I'd be back in CA where I lived for 20 years until mom and dad needed my help. Now I've lived here for 50 of my 70 years and really like our space. However, if things go bad, or if the kids move away, we'd sell and move to CA. and build or put a path, trailer and electricity on some of our friends empty land. At least, that's the plan since our friends moved out of NZ.
mitch96
(13,892 posts)up north. In January/February you go from your heated house to your heated car to your heated job.
Down here in August/September you go from an air conditioned house to a air conditioned car to a air conditioned job.. A 180...
The North East winters of '77 and '78 go to me.. Moved to Florida with plans of only staying one year... Never left.. I was having too much fun!! No state is perfect for everyone. Pick and choose what you like and go for the state you love. If you can afford it, being a snow bird is the way to go... Big caveat there...
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doc03
(35,325 posts)heat and humidity in the summer and there are the hurricanes. My parents moved from Ohio to
West Palm Beach in 1974 they moved back in 1979. They experienced two hurricanes and their
HOA tripled in 5 years. In Ohio you buy your land and don't have to pay some company for the privilege of
living there and don't have to live behind a f----g wall.
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)They freak out over a low-grade tropical storm. Two or three days with no power or AC during August? A bunch sell and go back north.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)Freddie
(9,259 posts)He and his wife have very good jobs and are pretty stuck there. Thankfully they live in a blue area (Palm Beach county) so the RW crap is not in their faces all the time. I love visiting but would not want to live there.
Ritabert
(667 posts)...when we left a few years ago windstorm alone was $5000 per year. That doesn't count flood or fire and liability insurance. Now it's probably $10,000 per year.
Beetwasher.
(2,970 posts)marmar
(77,077 posts).... I've developed an affinity for Fort Lauderdale. That said, I don't think I'd want to live there.
DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)Michigan and fight like hell for our state.
DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)It's their politics.
edhopper
(33,573 posts)would not move back for a million dollars.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."
And it is hot, not hot days in the summer hot, but debilitatingly hot from May through September. With 100% humidity. You sweat in the shower. It pours at 3:00 every day, and after, it is steamier and hotter.
It is also corrupt, run by Repukes with the anti-Democratic Cubans having way too much clout.
Right-wing Cubans - and their fascist redneck allies - are turning a once idyllic Flawrida into the "American Latin America."
In the worst sense of the term: dictatorship; abuses and general lawlessness; drug running and money laundering; endemic corruption, etc.
Climate change is doing the rest.
ancianita
(36,023 posts)Blue state exiles in Floridasucks welcome our New York neighbors.
Hopefully, more NY residents will register and help turn FL blue & get rid of Florida Man DeathSentence.
Then Florida can go the way of WI, MI and PA.
Jimbo S
(2,958 posts)My brother moved there eight years ago and I have visited twice. I find it very cosmopolitan. I may visit again soon. Yes, I'm aware of the state-level politics.
70sEraVet
(3,495 posts)HA!
sinkingfeeling
(51,445 posts)lived there until their deaths (1989, 2015, 2017). I lasted 13 months. I had to threaten to quit IBM and go with a competitor before I was transferred to NC.
Spend holidays with my family there and visited the tourist traps. It only got worse over the decades.
I've lived in 10 states and I rate Florida the least desirable place to live.
FLSurfer
(431 posts)of the respondents on this thread.
If I could just convince everyone that Florida is a miserable place to live, my life would be better.
We could spend the day generalizing and painting the state with the broad brush of our personal tastes but we could do that for every state.
I dont know why Floridians are forced to accommodate 800-1000 new residents per day but thats life down here. Land of the Im a local, Ive been here 3 years people.
Enjoy where you live, Im sure its beautiful.
ancianita
(36,023 posts)So Democrats on this thread should just chuck Florida, abandon the Democrats down here fighting the good fight. Seriously?
The whole idea of blue staters moving to Florida is to create good trouble.
I'm not a fan of the sunshine state, but being a Democrat making good trouble here, I'm even less a fan of sunshine Democrats who write off entire states because they're hard to change to blue.
Yes, it's beautiful here, especially the Democratic parts of the state -- which are growing.
Thanks for your support.
FLSurfer
(431 posts)red area of the state and still love my home. Never been anywhere on earth quite like it.
I suppose life is easier without challenges and I know we sure have a bunch of them here but still, I love this place.
My family has been here for generations so I dont have the same struggles with housing prices as our newer residents and that likely makes my experience a bit different.
I dont have to hate somewhere else to love where Im at.
Enjoy your morning wherever you are.