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brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 07:40 AM Jun 2022

Listen up, New York -- Florida sucks, and you'll all be back in five years

Will the last New Yorker leaving for Florida turn out the lights?

As The Post reported, a record 61,728 New York State residents fled to the Sunshine State last year, a number likely to rise in 2022. Lower taxes! Schools without masks! No shoebox-size apartments that cost more to rent than it took to build Hudson Yards!

You’ll all be sorry. As Jason Mudrick, head of Madison Avenue-based Mudrick Capital Management, put it, “The main problem with moving to Florida is that you have to live in Florida.”

https://nypost.com/2022/06/01/what-every-new-yorker-moving-to-florida-should-know/
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Listen up, New York -- Florida sucks, and you'll all be back in five years (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2022 OP
Hey new yorkers! essaynnc Jun 2022 #1
Yes! Can't wait for Texas to also turn blue, maybe even before Florida... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2022 #2
Turn it blue first and then I'll come. llmart Jun 2022 #4
:) Come and it'll become more progressive/liberal, Hortensis Jun 2022 #31
Stay out of the south DownriverDem Jun 2022 #16
So my uncle, he moves to Florida..near Panama City., to a senior golf community. Maybe 20 years ago. 3Hotdogs Jun 2022 #3
"senior golf community". Sounds like poor management of the place to me... nt mitch96 Jun 2022 #9
My son lives there and I still wouldn't want to live there myself. llmart Jun 2022 #5
" "It's already too hot down there".. yup, climate change sucks...nt mitch96 Jun 2022 #11
FLADUH NEVUH! cornball 24 Jun 2022 #6
FLAWrida peppertree Jun 2022 #24
Same Rebl2 Jun 2022 #28
I'm from Ohio Diamond_Dog Jun 2022 #7
The couple Rebl2 Jun 2022 #30
It's hotter than a wet hell here. lark Jun 2022 #8
"the heat and humidity it can be impossible to deal with" I always say it's the reverse of living mitch96 Jun 2022 #12
If I could afford to maintain two homes, I could be a snowbird. There is no way I could stand the doc03 Jun 2022 #10
All it takes is one meh hurricane and they all leave again obamanut2012 Jun 2022 #13
But Benito DeSantis thinks he can run Disney Historic NY Jun 2022 #14
My son and grandson live there Freddie Jun 2022 #15
Don't forget windstorm insurance Ritabert Jun 2022 #17
Big Parts of FL Will be Under Water Fairly Soon As Well, Unfortunately Beetwasher. Jun 2022 #18
I actually like the sane, blue county of Broward quite a bit.... marmar Jun 2022 #19
I'll stay in DownriverDem Jun 2022 #21
It's not the weather DownriverDem Jun 2022 #20
I grew up in Florida edhopper Jun 2022 #22
+1 peppertree Jun 2022 #27
Hey, hold up, there! That's no kinda Democratic 50-state strategy state of mind. ancianita Jun 2022 #23
How about JAX? Jimbo S Jun 2022 #25
I sent this quote to a friend who is thinking of moving to Florida; 70sEraVet Jun 2022 #26
Yep. I moved to Florida in 1977 from Ohio. My parents and sister sinkingfeeling Jun 2022 #29
I only wish more people thought like the majority FLSurfer Jun 2022 #32
I only wish more people would stop being sunshine Democrats here and support Florida Democrats. ancianita Jun 2022 #33
Agreed. Im from a pretty deep FLSurfer Jun 2022 #34

essaynnc

(801 posts)
1. Hey new yorkers!
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 07:48 AM
Jun 2022

Stop in North Carolina! Let's turn it blue.. Nice climate climate, reasonable price of living, and we're so close to being blue! I figure if a couple of 1000 new yorkers move here and vote, will do it.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
2. Yes! Can't wait for Texas to also turn blue, maybe even before Florida...
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 07:59 AM
Jun 2022

Then it's game over for Rethugs, at least in the one election that really counts!!!

llmart

(15,536 posts)
4. Turn it blue first and then I'll come.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:06 AM
Jun 2022

I lived there once and would again if I saw it was becoming more progressive rather than regressive.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
31. :) Come and it'll become more progressive/liberal,
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 10:38 AM
Jun 2022

nearly halfway in 2016. If new Hispanic and other voters hadn't broken FOR the tRumpists' racist authoritarian nationalism...

Since you've lived there, you'll recognize the real truth in this article of course -- not including the silly notion that northern migrants typically live on disappearing waterfront property of course.

Florida's really different, and we've seen a lot of people return to what they threw away so thoughtlessly, like friends and family. And pay through the nose to return to what they thought they were done with, like retired people missing two-story houses and preferring being closed in by winter snow and ice to summer's blast-furnace heat.

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
16. Stay out of the south
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 09:51 AM
Jun 2022

I cringe every time a left leaner says they are moving south to a red state. No way.

3Hotdogs

(12,374 posts)
3. So my uncle, he moves to Florida..near Panama City., to a senior golf community. Maybe 20 years ago.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:00 AM
Jun 2022

I drove to see him after his terminal diagnosis.

He took me for a tour around the development. Roads were in a state of decay... potholes, and blacktop that was worn to expose dirt.

Then we drove to the golf course. 18 holes were reduced to 3 because there was no money to maintain the 15 former holes. At the entrance to the "course" were two signs... "Beware of alligators" and Beware of rattlesnakes."

Fuck that.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
5. My son lives there and I still wouldn't want to live there myself.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:12 AM
Jun 2022

I am very close to my son and would love to live closer to him going into my old age, but I've told people for years that I'd never live in Florida unless I absolutely had to. Too hot for my liking. I have neighbors who go to Florida for the winter and I noticed that some of them are coming back north earlier and earlier in the spring. When I mention it to them they all say, "It's already too hot down there" (April 1st) and a couple of them said they were bored. We're all seniors in my community.

Rebl2

(13,492 posts)
28. Same
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 10:22 AM
Jun 2022

It’s hot and humid just like Missouri, only starts earlier in FL. Why would I move from one red state to another. People moving to FL from NY doesn’t mean they are all democrats leaving. Likely a lot of republicans are leaving.

Diamond_Dog

(31,979 posts)
7. I'm from Ohio
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 09:03 AM
Jun 2022

My state is no paradise, but I’ve been to Florida on vacations 6-7 times because my husband loves it.

It’s too hot, too buggy, too many nutty conservatives, and with the threat of hurricanes, no.

Rebl2

(13,492 posts)
30. The couple
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 10:33 AM
Jun 2022

of times I went in my early 20’s to Fl (to visit a boyfriend) it was great, except I wasn’t crazy about the huge bugs and already very humid in May. It was the early eighties and not really aware of FL politics then. I was aware of the boyfriends though-republican. It would have never worked.

lark

(23,094 posts)
8. It's hotter than a wet hell here.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 09:04 AM
Jun 2022

if you weren't raised in the searing heat and humidity it can be impossible to deal with. So, unless they are rich and can live on a lake or beach with those nice breezes, they will be unbelievably hot and uncomfortable. And the cars where there is no shade - Oh my - the plasma that is the driving wheel can't be touched with the hands. It will sear them! You have to have wheel covers and always use the big sunshades across the front of the window. People in FL have perfected the art of driving with their finger tips, lol.

It's where my family is, it's where I own a decent house and it's where I was raised, but if it wasn't for the family I wouldn't be here. I'd be back in CA where I lived for 20 years until mom and dad needed my help. Now I've lived here for 50 of my 70 years and really like our space. However, if things go bad, or if the kids move away, we'd sell and move to CA. and build or put a path, trailer and electricity on some of our friends empty land. At least, that's the plan since our friends moved out of NZ.

mitch96

(13,892 posts)
12. "the heat and humidity it can be impossible to deal with" I always say it's the reverse of living
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 09:32 AM
Jun 2022

up north. In January/February you go from your heated house to your heated car to your heated job.
Down here in August/September you go from an air conditioned house to a air conditioned car to a air conditioned job.. A 180...
The North East winters of '77 and '78 go to me.. Moved to Florida with plans of only staying one year... Never left.. I was having too much fun!! No state is perfect for everyone. Pick and choose what you like and go for the state you love. If you can afford it, being a snow bird is the way to go... Big caveat there...
m

doc03

(35,325 posts)
10. If I could afford to maintain two homes, I could be a snowbird. There is no way I could stand the
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 09:22 AM
Jun 2022

heat and humidity in the summer and there are the hurricanes. My parents moved from Ohio to
West Palm Beach in 1974 they moved back in 1979. They experienced two hurricanes and their
HOA tripled in 5 years. In Ohio you buy your land and don't have to pay some company for the privilege of
living there and don't have to live behind a f----g wall.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
13. All it takes is one meh hurricane and they all leave again
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 09:42 AM
Jun 2022

They freak out over a low-grade tropical storm. Two or three days with no power or AC during August? A bunch sell and go back north.

Freddie

(9,259 posts)
15. My son and grandson live there
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 09:46 AM
Jun 2022

He and his wife have very good jobs and are pretty stuck there. Thankfully they live in a blue area (Palm Beach county) so the RW crap is not in their faces all the time. I love visiting but would not want to live there.

Ritabert

(667 posts)
17. Don't forget windstorm insurance
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 09:52 AM
Jun 2022

...when we left a few years ago windstorm alone was $5000 per year. That doesn't count flood or fire and liability insurance. Now it's probably $10,000 per year.

marmar

(77,077 posts)
19. I actually like the sane, blue county of Broward quite a bit....
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 09:57 AM
Jun 2022

.... I've developed an affinity for Fort Lauderdale. That said, I don't think I'd want to live there.

edhopper

(33,573 posts)
22. I grew up in Florida
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 10:05 AM
Jun 2022

would not move back for a million dollars.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."

And it is hot, not hot days in the summer hot, but debilitatingly hot from May through September. With 100% humidity. You sweat in the shower. It pours at 3:00 every day, and after, it is steamier and hotter.
It is also corrupt, run by Repukes with the anti-Democratic Cubans having way too much clout.

peppertree

(21,624 posts)
27. +1
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 10:16 AM
Jun 2022

Right-wing Cubans - and their fascist redneck allies - are turning a once idyllic Flawrida into the "American Latin America."

In the worst sense of the term: dictatorship; abuses and general lawlessness; drug running and money laundering; endemic corruption, etc.

Climate change is doing the rest.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
23. Hey, hold up, there! That's no kinda Democratic 50-state strategy state of mind.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 10:10 AM
Jun 2022

Blue state exiles in Floridasucks welcome our New York neighbors.

Hopefully, more NY residents will register and help turn FL blue & get rid of Florida Man DeathSentence.

Then Florida can go the way of WI, MI and PA.

Jimbo S

(2,958 posts)
25. How about JAX?
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 10:12 AM
Jun 2022

My brother moved there eight years ago and I have visited twice. I find it very cosmopolitan. I may visit again soon. Yes, I'm aware of the state-level politics.

70sEraVet

(3,495 posts)
26. I sent this quote to a friend who is thinking of moving to Florida;
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 10:15 AM
Jun 2022
As Jason Mudrick, head of Madison Avenue-based Mudrick Capital Management, put it, “The main problem with moving to Florida is that you have to live in Florida.”


HA!

sinkingfeeling

(51,445 posts)
29. Yep. I moved to Florida in 1977 from Ohio. My parents and sister
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 10:25 AM
Jun 2022

lived there until their deaths (1989, 2015, 2017). I lasted 13 months. I had to threaten to quit IBM and go with a competitor before I was transferred to NC.

Spend holidays with my family there and visited the tourist traps. It only got worse over the decades.

I've lived in 10 states and I rate Florida the least desirable place to live.

FLSurfer

(431 posts)
32. I only wish more people thought like the majority
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 10:40 AM
Jun 2022

of the respondents on this thread.
If I could just convince everyone that Florida is a miserable place to live, my life would be better.
We could spend the day generalizing and painting the state with the broad brush of our personal tastes but we could do that for every state.
I don’t know why Floridians are forced to accommodate 800-1000 new residents per day but that’s life down here. Land of the “I’m a local, I’ve been here 3 years” people.
Enjoy where you live, I’m sure it’s beautiful.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
33. I only wish more people would stop being sunshine Democrats here and support Florida Democrats.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 10:58 AM
Jun 2022

So Democrats on this thread should just chuck Florida, abandon the Democrats down here fighting the good fight. Seriously?

The whole idea of blue staters moving to Florida is to create good trouble.

I'm not a fan of the sunshine state, but being a Democrat making good trouble here, I'm even less a fan of sunshine Democrats who write off entire states because they're hard to change to blue.

Yes, it's beautiful here, especially the Democratic parts of the state -- which are growing.

Thanks for your support.

FLSurfer

(431 posts)
34. Agreed. Im from a pretty deep
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 11:17 AM
Jun 2022

red area of the state and still love my home. Never been anywhere on earth quite like it.
I suppose life is easier without challenges and I know we sure have a bunch of them here but still, I love this place.
My family has been here for generations so I don’t have the same struggles with housing prices as our newer residents and that likely makes my experience a bit different.
I don’t have to hate somewhere else to love where I’m at.
Enjoy your morning wherever you are.

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