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It's just a shooting gallery now. (Original Post) deminks Jun 2022 OP
JFC HAB911 Jun 2022 #1
Check out what this guy said... OneGrassRoot Jun 2022 #2
Wow Ferrets are Cool Jun 2022 #7
hhmm, truck driving.. could be too many 'cross-tops'.. certain drugs can make a person lose it. n/t TeamProg Jun 2022 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #15
A tablet type of amphetamine with perpendicular lines.. not Jesus Cross Tops.. Funny though! TeamProg Jun 2022 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #26
Sheriff: "No motive, just probably methed up. He's got a history." sop Jun 2022 #3
When the Sheriff feels okay to make that statement in public underpants Jun 2022 #5
He has Rights. Like Meth and Guns. dchill Jun 2022 #6
Yea Rebl2 Jun 2022 #8
I wonder how random exboyfil Jun 2022 #4
What was his name? Bucky Jun 2022 #16
Yes, Quarius was Black jayschool2013 Jun 2022 #18
Little Murders (n/t) William Seger Jun 2022 #9
Give an idiot a gun, don't be surprised when they do something stupid with it. Initech Jun 2022 #10
We are at saturation point with gun violence Roc2020 Jun 2022 #12
Makes me never want to set foot ever in a red state with lax gun laws kimbutgar Jun 2022 #13
You always inthewind21 Jun 2022 #21
Not in this case kimbutgar Jun 2022 #27
Lindsay Graham, Tim Scott, you're complicit in this death of an 8 year old boy. Fla Dem Jun 2022 #14
smh YoshidaYui Jun 2022 #17
This how Rs start their Civil War Putler wants? KS Toronado Jun 2022 #19
So remind me how a "good guy with a gun" would fix this. n/t TygrBright Jun 2022 #20
Jesus! LoisB Jun 2022 #22
There is NOTHING in that statement that would get him the help he needs! Thunderbeast Jun 2022 #24
I'm old enough to remember when... Hugin Jun 2022 #25

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
2. Check out what this guy said...
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:41 AM
Jun 2022

I searched because I wanted to know more about this Charles Montgomery Allen.

Timmons initially asked Allen if he understand the charges against him, but he didn't answer.

Allen replied he's a victim and he's been trying to get help for the past two years.

"Can I say that I have been a victim here well over two years? Every device I have has been hacked. Every device, my cell phones. My TV. I can’t even get a signal at my home to watch TV. Like there is some kind of jammer in the area. I have been a total victim for well over two years. And I said over and over and over I did not want anyone to get hurt. This is not the first. The first time I went and stole some stuff from the store. Just to see if there was still law and order. In existence, to what’s been going on in my life. That was when I came in here for stealing some Raisin Bran. I have a clean record. I have never been a criminal in my life. I came home about two years ago from truck driving. And something has been after me. I can’t explain it. It is out of my realm of understanding. But, to say that’s not the case would be a lie. And I have never had bad intentions toward anyone in my life," said Allen.

"And I am trying to explain it that I have acted out before. And nothing happened. Because I have been trying to figure out what’s going on for over two years now. Well, over two years. And I wasn’t trying to shoot anyone. And I said over and over and I know they can hear me. Because they can hear me and they’ll respond," said Allen.


Yes, we all know there is a mental health crisis in this country which is part of the general healthcare crisis. Without universal healthcare, this won't change.

Who knows if this man is on drugs or had a psychotic break or what, but I share this because he sounds like the QAnon conspiracy theorists who are all one incident away from being mass murderers, especially if they have access to guns. I dare say no one is mentally healthy, so blaming mental health is useless and demonizes people living with mental illness. People are law-abiding citizens -- until they aren't.

This is a perfect storm of violence that has been gathering for a long time but has coalesced beginning in 2016 when Trumpism with its inherent racism and bigotry unleashed it and he and his followers have been stoking that violence this whole time.


Edit to add link: https://wpde.com/news/local/florence-county-man-charged-8-year-old-boy-shot-killed-murder-old-river-road-charles-montgomery-allen

Response to TeamProg (Reply #11)

Response to TeamProg (Reply #23)

sop

(10,167 posts)
3. Sheriff: "No motive, just probably methed up. He's got a history."
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:43 AM
Jun 2022

So, why did a methhead with a "history" have a gun?

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
4. I wonder how random
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:46 AM
Jun 2022

The boy's name sounds like one more typically selected by African American families. Who were in the other two cars?

Bucky

(53,998 posts)
16. What was his name?
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 11:07 AM
Jun 2022

I looked in the articles online and didn't see the child's name -- withheld, I assume, cause they want to notify family and classmates in a more sensitive manner than finding out on the news.

Roc2020

(1,615 posts)
12. We are at saturation point with gun violence
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 10:52 AM
Jun 2022

Too many guns, hate for self and others, division and mental illness. Gun violence is almost apocalyptic in America now. Could it really be too late?

kimbutgar

(21,137 posts)
13. Makes me never want to set foot ever in a red state with lax gun laws
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 10:55 AM
Jun 2022

I have no choice to not go to Arizona because my spouses family lives there. And I am always apprehensive when I go there. And it’s an open carry state.

kimbutgar

(21,137 posts)
27. Not in this case
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 06:40 PM
Jun 2022

It’s my Mother in law that I love dearly and love seeing. It’s a family obligation.

Thunderbeast

(3,406 posts)
24. There is NOTHING in that statement that would get him the help he needs!
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 11:28 AM
Jun 2022

Until an actual violent act is committed, this man WOULD NOT BE DEEMED SICK ENOUGH FOR INVOLUNTARY TREATMENT!

Americans live under the fantasy that a community can encounter a person this ill, and force him into a hospital and make him take antipsychotic drugs against his will.

NOT TRUE!

It takes actual violence or close-call suicide attempt for such an intervention. Even then, the legal system is biased toward civil liberties, not safety.

In the wake of mass murders lately, folks are crowing that perpetrators "should have been on the radar" so that they could be monitored and prevented from acting out.

WHO is going to monitor them?

HOW are we supposed to intervene when psychosis on the street is deemed acceptable?

Access to mental health treatment MUST be improved, but a large number (likely a majority) of the untreated WILL NOT ACCEPT treatment voluntarily.

The laws must change to allow interventions in cases where people are incapable of recognizing the danger they pose to themselves and others.

The link below goes to the leading organization advocating proactive interventions.

https://www.treatmentadvocacycenter.org/

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