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The HillWe begin with fear, indirectly drilled into young Donald Trumps psyche by Fred, his authoritarian father, who demanded that his son always win and show strength but never weakness. Fred taught Donald that he could lie or twist the truth but never back down. Consequently, Trump developed an unnatural fear of losing or being called a loser.
Those grueling family dynamics were chronicled in Mary Trumps book Too Much and Never Enough, subtitled How my family created the worlds most dangerous man. Donald Trumps niece is a Ph.D. clinical psychologist whose best-seller was published in July 2020. Then, during a television appearance on Dec. 3, 2020, Mary explained, Its impossible for Trump to believe that he lost the election.
That inability is why Trump cant let go of 2020 and will tease a 2024 run for as long as possible. But, ultimately, Trumps fear of losing is likely stronger than his willingness to take the risk. Moreover, during a second reelection campaign, the former president would be hard-pressed to use the same predictive excuse first heralded in a May 25, 2020, Politico headline: Trump sees a rigged election ahead. Democrats see a constitutional crisis in the making.
Johnny2X2X
(18,968 posts)If Trump thinks the GOP stole enough seats in 2022 to overturn any fair election in 2024, he'll run.
If they win enough he may not even have to run.
Instead and I emphasize this, he believes he will be installed. Because, They owe him.
SmartJellyfish
(63 posts)"Federal Prisoner".
riversedge
(70,051 posts)LakeArenal
(28,798 posts)dutch777
(2,958 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,270 posts)I'm pretty sure Politico's pov is an inadequate explanation for this sociopath's mo and intentions. By that I mean to suggest, don't take it to the bank you'll be robbed before you can make a deposit.
false hope and fantasy is not going to get us through, imo.
peppertree
(21,595 posts)When talk first started up about Trump's eventual "revenge" run in '24, the first thought that came to mind was Philadelphia's Frank Rizzo.
M any will recall that Rizzo, originally a conservative Democrat (and a textbook thug), was denied his chance to tamper with the city charter - and thus a third term - back in '80.
He became a Repug (of course), and tried going back for the mayor's seat a few times over the next decade.
Finally, in '91, it looked as though he might clinch it - when, just weeks after announcing, he died of a massive heart attack during one of Philly's stultifyingly hot and humid summer days.
It dawned on me that Cheeto will probably end up the same way.
2naSalit
(86,313 posts)I could go for that.
peppertree
(21,595 posts)rampartc
(5,384 posts)so he could not break up her baby eating cull!"
peppertree
(21,595 posts)It's what Republicans have in lieu of imagination any more.
sop
(10,091 posts)I have nothing to go on, but one can always hope.
Beetwasher.
(2,967 posts)n/t
milestogo
(16,829 posts)peppertree
(21,595 posts)Bigly.
made me laugh out loud!
Buns_of_Fire
(17,148 posts)That way, no one would dare come near him, figuring he was just trying out some new moves.
mercuryblues
(14,521 posts)dutch777
(2,958 posts)peppertree
(21,595 posts)A series of hurrahs, followed by a lurid and highly public downfall.
This '24 "grudge" run of his, I suspect, will be his last such turn on the merry-go-round.
Aristus
(66,275 posts)Still applies perfectly, though.
Captain Zero
(6,780 posts)Keep Hope Alive.
gab13by13
(21,235 posts)I don't take much stock in what Myra Adams has to say. She worked on Shrub's and McCain's campaigns.
I do listen to David Plouffe and he gave good reasons why he believes Trump won't run.
Girard442
(6,063 posts)Maybe even if he can't.
Cosmocat
(14,558 posts)nm
rurallib
(62,373 posts)Since he is not as yet a declared candidate, does he get to keep the money he is raising?
Just crossed my mind the other day and it has been bugging me.
What a great way to have people just give you money.
CrispyQ
(36,413 posts)But I'm not an expert & I don't recall where I read that. Probably here on DU.
CrispyQ
(36,413 posts)rampartc
(5,384 posts)otherwise his head in a bottle will be president forever.
ForgedCrank
(1,759 posts)1. Jack
2. Ass
RainCaster
(10,822 posts)madinmaryland
(64,931 posts)andym
(5,443 posts)as he did with his election loss or Covid. So by definition he never loses, so fear of losing plays no direct role here-- it just makes him deny reality. If he does in fact lose, he just claims he was cheated. He stated that he was cheated in 2016 (when he won), 2020, and surely again in 2024 no matter the outcome. Since he craves attention above all, running is his obvious choice. Not only that but his party has a majority believing that Trump has been cheated, and favors Trump, which should give him the nomination. Also, from a practical point of view he can't be prosecuted for his potential crimes if he somehow achieves the White House.
Even the author of the Hill article covers his bases with:
"To recap: Trump wont run because he fears losing and does not want to fight for the nomination. But here is why I could be wrong:
...
I asked Mark McKinnon, the co-host of Showtimes The Circus and the last presidential strategist to win the reelection of a Republican president:
Trump will never concede the stage or the spotlight to anyone else unless hes in prison or a hospital. Hes not licking his wounds, hes licking his chops. Every defeat is someone elses fault. Every victory is his alone. The notion that he would simply exit stage left because of some political reality, self-reflection, or awareness flies in the face of everything weve learned about him."
Chainfire
(17,458 posts)But, as I understand, being convicted of Sedition or Treason would prevent him from holding office. Trump is however at that delicate age where obese old men can just croak without warning. That would prevent him from running. That would be my first choice, my second choice would be that he ran and failed to gain the nomination. That would put a crack in the Republican armor that we could walk through backwards. For that reason, if he is able to run, the Republicans will probably run him. Republicans can not grow or maintain their hold on power if they lose their fanatic right base.
What is amazing to me is that we even discuss the probability of a pathological liar, con-man and traitor's odds of being the Republican nominee for the Presidency. This discussion alone indicates what danger our Democracy is in. In a previous America, the Republicans would openly reject the possibility of such a personality being their nominee. Even worse than that is the possibility that he could both win the nomination and the election.
andym
(5,443 posts)Republicans are ready made for a nationalistic leader like Trump or the various Trump wannabees waiting in the wings Their go-to issues are the culture wars, which really do work for the GOP and their uncritical acceptance of whatever they are told (no matter how preposterous) by master propagandists means that American democratic government is at grave risk. Playing on selfishness, traditionalism that emphasizes the victimization of Republicans by liberals, and nationalism/patriotism creates a heady witches brew eating away at the enlightenment-based foundations of the republic.
Chainfire
(17,458 posts)Yet, after 30 years, we have not found effective counter-measures. Why is that?
What is wrong with Americans that so many of us are willing to accept an outrageous and illogical falsehood rather than a simple truth?
Progressives want to play within the rules, while our "competitors" are allowed to change the rules, to suit themselves, as the game proceeds. We need to take the gloves off.
andym
(5,443 posts)as possible. It's not just a Democrat vs Republican thing, it's really Republicans vs almost everybody else-- even some conservatives, like Liz Cheney, who do not advocate Democratic policy see this.
Novara
(5,819 posts)Plus, I've got two words why he WILL run: executive privilege.
The only way he doesn't get prosecuted for his many, many crimes is if the office shields him. That alone will make him run even if he knows there isn't a chance in hell. Besides, the republicans are rigging voting in this country; he can't lose.
He has no fear of losing. He's been handed everything - even Russia handed him 2016. So he never loses. If someone else comes out ahead, he says they cheated because in his mind there's no way he ever loses anything.
The only way he doesn't run is if he's dead.
Oh please, oh please.
andym
(5,443 posts)In his thinking he has to run and win, in order to save his ass. And thanks to the republicans - and Manchin and Sinema - he will win, jeebus help us.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,544 posts)Now, if hes been indicted, pending trial, the GOP party elite might, I emphasize, might, abandon him for DeSantis.
Trumps ego wont allow him to sit out the election- becoming president again is the only way he can avoid consequences for the crimes of his first term, and he can grift more money as president than as former president.
Chainfire
(17,458 posts)Nor will he be indicted. If Trump is willing and available, and the Republicans run DeSantis, they would split the party so badly that they couldn't win at all. The other point is that it would be safer for our Democracy to have Trump in the White House than DeSantis! DeSantis is just as dangerous and he is not a clown...
sarisataka
(18,472 posts)Chainfire
(17,458 posts)He will only stop running for President if he is stopped by means beyond his control.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)That article makes a lot of sense.