Tulsa shooter came to kill Dr. Preston J. Phillips per Police Chief

[Yonnie3]

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Tulsa Police Chief Wendell Franklin says a letter was recovered from the hospital shooter explaining he came to kill Dr. Preston J. Phillips, who the shooter blamed for his back pain following surgery in May, and “anyone who got in his way.”

Clip from video of press conference

Edit to add link to live video coverage of presser https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/watch-live-victims-and-gunman-identified-after-mass-shooting-wednesday-in-tulsa/article_7f7b4cdc-e1f7-11ec-bd98-e77f83e3435a.html

It is Q&A now.

On Youtube live that can be rewound

Press conference begins about 15 minutes in

[bucolic_frolic]

1. Nothing like giving treatment time to work

before you decide to go blow the doctor away.

[forthemiddle]

6. I am guessing

And this is only a guess based on my multiple years of reading medical records for a back surgeon, that he was demanding more pain killers, and the Dr couldn't or wouldn't comply.
There are so many guidelines that have to do with pain relief, especially post op pain relief, that many people find it hard to function.
This is one of the side effects of the Oxycodone addictions, and over prescribing of those meds.

[wnylib]

25. That occurred to me, too.

I don't have your experience of reading records, but your experience seems to validate my hunch. I think that you are probably right, not just because I thought of it, too, but because I have known people who have had back surgery and have seen how painful it is for them. They could not function without pain killers.

[Trueblue1968]

27. well he is dead so his whole body is wracked with pain now .... NOT JUST HIS BACK

SHOOTER IS IN HELL.

[Roc2020]

29. oh my!

[Aristus]

2. Jesus Christ.

What a murderous fucking moron. Hey asshole! If you have surgery, you're going to have pain afterward! SHIT! Just make constant nagging demands for Percocet like everyone else.

[Yonnie3]

3. Pain

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Pain is a constant companion for me. I might get testy, but I'm at a loss to understand the murderer's reaction.

[11 Bravo]

18. Same here. I've had multiple major surgeries, and am resigned to living with pain ...

to some degree for the rest of my life.
I also own multiple firearms, but it has never even occurred to me to plug one of my doctors.

[GoodRaisin]

38. Me too.

Sometime people who have back surgery experience nerve pain they haven’t felt before the surgery. I am thinking it could be that.

There are not great treatments for nerve pain, I know from experience.

[FakeNoose]

12. All surgical patients deal with pain, but not all them have gunz

[Nevilledog]

15. Bought rifle on June 1st, handgun on May 29th.

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JJ MacNab
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Michael Louis,Tulsa Mass Shooting Suspect: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

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Michael Louis,Tulsa Mass Shooting Suspect: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
Michael Louis was the Tulsa shooter.

JJ MacNab
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"at 2 p.m. on June 1, Louis purchased a semi-automatic rifle from a local gun store. It was an AR-15 style rifle. On May 29, Louis purchased the handgun at a local pawn shop"
9:11 AM · Jun 2, 2022

[groundloop]

20. So apparently another massacre using LEGALLY purchased weapons.

When in holy hell will our GPQ friends* in Congress get off their ass and do something. Sure, they get a shit ton of gun industry money, but you'd think that at least a few of them would grow one and stand up to the NRA.

[dalton99a]

39. +1

[Initech]

4. Well so much for the idea of "an armed society is a polite society".

[DURHAM D]

5. He apparently wanted more drugs.

Why am I not surprised?

[Takket]

7. This is just how everyone solves their problems now.

Back pain? GUNS!

Incel? Guns

Cut off in traffic? Guns

Bad drug deal? Guns

Blacks exist? Guns

Gays exist? Guns

Lost your job? Guns

Disrespected? guns

Fast food order wrong? guns

And on and on it goes.

[Captain Zero]

10. the common denominator there is, ah, maybe, GUNS

dontcha think?

[Wednesdays]

13. Nahh.

It's doors! DOORS!

Or, trench coats (that meme was bandied about after Columbine).

[Takket]

17. I hadn't thought of that, but maybe!

[Ferrets are Cool]

21. This

Teacher gave you a bad grade? Shoot them.

[sinkingfeeling]

8. According to some Americans, the answer to every one of life's problems is a gun.

[gratuitous]

9. And that's the way we solve our problems in the United States

We can't feed, clothe, or house our citizens. Health care is moving back to the province of the wealthy after a brief run at being provided by right or entitlement. But by golly, we can make sure that everyone with a grievance, a beef, an unsatisfactory life, real or imagined, can get his hands on a semi-automatic rifle to set everything right!

Shoot your troubles away!

[Chainfire]

11. And ended his pain with suicide.

Perhaps he should have made that his first option...

Gun violence is just so easy...An AK converts a sniveling coward into a "warrior" and they are available, on credit, to anyone.
If you are going out, go out with a blaze of "glory" taking as many as possible with you...At least your name will be remembered.

I wonder if it would help if the names of mass-murderers would be concealed from the public, and the shooters referred to, in the press, only in some insulting terms, leaving no path to infamy. Yea, I am grasping at straws here.

[Ferrets are Cool]

22. Gun violence is just so easy

This is IT in a nutshell

[Novara]

14. If pain was a prerequisite for murder ...

... a lot of people here would be dead, including the idiot HR person who didn't tell me I had to go to the company's doc because it's a worker's comp case. I lost a month - this could have been diagnosed quicker. And maybe treated quicker. Now I'm looking at total hip replacement. And living in pain every single day.



I read that he bought the - you guessed it - AR15 the day before the shooting. Wonder what kind of a background check was done that quickly. Even so, lots of people get these killing machines legally.

IT'S THE GUNS.

[muriel_volestrangler]

16. And, to be clear, Dr. Phillips was one of the victims he killed

A patient gunned down his surgeon and three other people in a mass shooting at a Tulsa, Oklahoma, medical building on Wednesday after blaming the doctor for his pain, according to police.

On May 19, the suspected gunman underwent back surgery. Dr. Preston Phillips -- one of the four people killed in the shooting at the Natalie Building, a five-story medical complex at Saint Francis Hospital -- was the suspect's doctor in that surgery, Tulsa Police Chief Wendell Franklin said at a news conference Thursday.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/tulsa-mass-shooter-allegedly-gunned-doctor-pain/story?id=85131370

[wnylib]

26. The other 3 victims were:

A patient, a receptionist, and another doctor.

[KS Toronado]

19. Wish more people would seek out a good chiropractor

for back & neck pain when an MD suggests surgery. I've known of doctors who tell patients to go see
a chiropractor, and chiropractors that tell patients they need a surgeon. Every person I know who has
had back surgery except 2, never went to or considered a chiropractor for help.

[Disaffected]

32. I would never see a chiropractor for anything

and neck pain in particular.

[liberal_mama]

35. My husband's chiropractor was the worst quack! A trumper, anti-vaxxer, conspiracy theorist that

would fill my husband's head with nonsense every time he went. His treatments didn't even help either and he'd always be trying to sell my husband weird herbal concoctions. Thankfully, my husband stopped going to him now, but he was going to him for like 2 years!

[Disaffected]

36. Chiropractic is inherently quackery.

Most chiropractors IMO are quacks but there are a few, in the small minority, that stick pretty much to the conventional physiotherapy type of treatment. However, if that is what one is seeking, why not just see a doctor or physiotherapist?

My particular case in point was a cousin who had endured ever increasing back pain for a number of months. He was seeing a chiropractor for it which had resulted in no improvement. Finally, something suddenly gave out in his back and he was literally on his hands and knees unable to stand. An ambulance was called and a CT or MRI scan performed. He was found to have a massive lymphoma in his lower back which had resulted in a fractured vertebra. He underwent chemo and radiation with much success (his lymphoma had shrunk below detection level). Trouble was though, the cancer treatment had messed up his bone marrow such that his platelet count plummeted, his immune system was buggered and he died as a result.

I cannot help but wonder what the outcome would have been if he had sought conventional treatment in the first place.

[KS Toronado]

37. Like any profession there's good ones & bad ones

Sorry your husband found the latter. From my experience the best Chiropractors out there don't take X-rays,
they don't pop or crack bones, and they never require you to come back for follow up visits because your
insurance is willing to pay for them. These Chiropractors are getting hard to find. I bought a cheap inversion
table from Walmart 30 years ago because of a recommendation from a Chiropractor, never needed their
services again. And yes the good ones don't pop or crack bones.

[hunter]

23. Other nations don't have the problem with guns or drugs the U.S.A. has.

Why is that?



It's a complete mystery!

[Recursion]

24. Plenty of other nations have the gun and drugs problems we have

Russia, Brazil, South Africa, Colombia

We look pretty much like them by most HDI measurements

[hunter]

33. We've always been a "developing nation" of that sort.

We're just really good at hiding it.

Affluent white U.S.A. is very good at avoiding and ignoring these problems, even within their own families.

[Recursion]

34. Yup. We're a developing nation embedded in a developed nation. Always have been

The US is a postcolonial petrostate embedded in an advanced social democracy. Just like it was a Caribbean slave economy embedded in an Enlightenment-era Republic.

[Thunderbeast]

28. OK...I am going to go THERE!

Look at the dominant entertainment media for the last 70 years. While there have been entertaining sitcoms, much, if not most of the entertainment of television, film, and games involve weapons. Think westerns, mysteries, cop formularies...All are dominated by guns to create a crime or to solve one.

Guns in entertainment is vastly over-represented as an element of real life. Our image of life in the 19th Century is distorted by these images. Guns were rarely used for safety.

We are ALL de-sensitized. The entertainment media has re-wired our brains to accept the relationship between guns and power as a natural thing...not the horrible rubric it has become.

https://www.studyfinds.org/shootings-rise-with-prime-time-tv/

[Roc2020]

30. NRA-All hospitals must arm their employees

A good orthopedic with a gun can stop a bad patient in pain with a gun

[Joinfortmill]

31. Vote out anyone against gun control.