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Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
Fri Jun 3, 2022, 10:57 PM Jun 2022

Just now, a tweet from J6 committee


January 6th Committee
@January6thCmte
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9m
While today’s indictment of Peter Navarro was the correct decision by the Justice Department, we find the decision to reward Mark Meadows and Dan Scavino for their continued attack on the rule of law puzzling.
January 6th Committee
@January6thCmte
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9m
Mr. Meadows and Mr. Scavino unquestionably have relevant knowledge about President Trump’s role in the efforts to overturn the 2020 election and the events of January 6th. We hope the Justice Department provides greater clarity on this matter.
January 6th Committee
@January6thCmte
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9m
As the Select Committee has argued in District Court, Mark Meadows’s claim that he is entitled to absolute immunity is not correct or justified based on the Department of Justice Office of Legal Counsel Memoranda.

No one is above the law.
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Just now, a tweet from J6 committee (Original Post) Grasswire2 Jun 2022 OP
Here's the link from twitter. Grasswire2 Jun 2022 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author LonePirate Jun 2022 #23
The committee is not pleased. Grasswire2 Jun 2022 #2
J6 v. DoJ Grasswire2 Jun 2022 #3
Garland has undermined the J6 committee today. Grasswire2 Jun 2022 #6
How do you contact Garland? He needs to hear from a lot Maraya1969 Jun 2022 #66
Apparently these two are above the law. They will not be indicted. William769 Jun 2022 #4
Apparently people ARE above the law. I dare anyone else to do the same as these pigs and watch what onecaliberal Jun 2022 #5
some people are above the law Grasswire2 Jun 2022 #7
Of course they are. onecaliberal Jun 2022 #11
Fanni Willis is the last hope now NewsCenter28 Jun 2022 #21
Oh For Christ's Sake, Forget It. The Fat Lady Sang LONG Ago nt SoCalDavidS Jun 2022 #34
The justice department was packed with republicans during tfg's term & bush's term questionseverything Jun 2022 #8
garland's first task should have been to root out the ones who had burrowed in. mopinko Jun 2022 #53
Good. Keep the pressure on. NOBODY is above law ecstatic Jun 2022 #9
WHO is keeping the pressure on? Grasswire2 Jun 2022 #20
Lol. The J6 committee... ecstatic Jun 2022 #57
Did you read the same report I did? Because there is no pressure, and some people Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #49
Today, America is closer to losing our democracy. gab13by13 Jun 2022 #10
The Last Thing This Shithole Is, Is A Democracy nt SoCalDavidS Jun 2022 #35
We're not a shithole. North Korea is a shithole. Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #75
How does Garland claim to be going after everyone at all levels associated with J6? onecaliberal Jun 2022 #12
especially on a contempt charge....... Takket Jun 2022 #17
And there you have it. Banana republic. onecaliberal Jun 2022 #18
Wonder If He & Others WiVoter Jun 2022 #55
Wait - just the other day on 'Justice Matters' MyOwnPeace Jun 2022 #77
wow..... i took the hopeful viewpoint that DOJ didn't indict because they had helped the Jan 6 Takket Jun 2022 #13
Say it again: Grasswire2 Jun 2022 #19
Kick dalton99a Jun 2022 #14
Garland has sabotaged the J6 Committee's work today. Grasswire2 Jun 2022 #15
Garland did not sabotage the J6 committee agingdem Jun 2022 #37
Garland doesn't need a referral to indict Meadows and Scavino Attilatheblond Jun 2022 #41
👍 Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #76
The truth is we don't know what Garland is doing. Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #78
Were they secretly pardoned by Trump? nt Samrob Jun 2022 #16
Trump could not have pardoned them from a future committee subpoena. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #42
Feeling sick spanone Jun 2022 #22
Feeling ever more cynical here. Grasswire2 Jun 2022 #25
Garland needs to resign. This action by DoJ is unacceptable. LonePirate Jun 2022 #24
Another mess for Joe to handle. Sigh. nt Grasswire2 Jun 2022 #26
If you feel that strongly, call your rep and demand they impeach Garland. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 2022 #30
None of us know what DOJ is doing. Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #79
Not even the Jan 6 committee it seems.... paleotn Jun 2022 #82
I Don't Know If This Makes A Difference. But WiVoter Jun 2022 #27
NOT off the hook. Hopefully? czarjak Jun 2022 #29
Then why would the J6 committee release a statement complaining about it? Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #50
I agree with you. OnDoutside Jun 2022 #52
Then obviously there are people on the J6 Committee that have no idea what is going on. Autumn Jun 2022 #56
I wondered about that... I guess it would be possible even without the J6 committee's knowledge... liberalla Jun 2022 #72
👍 Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #80
think might have to with Georgia mess ? towerbum Jun 2022 #28
O. K. UTUSN Jun 2022 #31
Thank goodness that J6 did not provide the interviews/evidence that DoJ was asking for. Grasswire2 Jun 2022 #32
No One Is Above The Law? What A Gigantic Crock Of Shit! SoCalDavidS Jun 2022 #33
A superficial claim of executive privilege might be... dchill Jun 2022 #36
Source? ShazzieB Jun 2022 #45
I'm unaware of the need for a source... dchill Jun 2022 #47
HARRY LITMAN response tonight, and Ben Rhodes comment Grasswire2 Jun 2022 #38
It is very possible, in my opinion... kentuck Jun 2022 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #40
So will the Congress be dusting off their inherent contempt power? n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #43
I'm given two replies when I ask that question Grasswire2 Jun 2022 #44
I believe the last person arrested was confined to a hotel room. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #46
If these clowns won't be charged, no way TFG is budkin Jun 2022 #48
To all who are saying that this means they must be cooperating with the DOJ: Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #51
Silly Committee member. DOJ has this.... Any day now. Autumn Jun 2022 #54
This is crucial that the DOJ does it's freakin job. Who is blocking these arrests? BSdetect Jun 2022 #58
In these highest-of-profile cases, I'm sure the Attorney General has the last word on... LudwigPastorius Jun 2022 #61
All plausible speculations, but first we need facts. housecat Jun 2022 #59
+1. One thing we do know, talking heads can't guest on political shows Hortensis Jun 2022 #64
How else can they fill a 24-hour news cycle? Personally, I'd welcome more comedy. housecat Jun 2022 #68
You don't believe what the J6 committee communicates on a public platform?? Grasswire2 Jun 2022 #69
No silly, the talking heads just speculate. The J6 committee rocks. housecat Jun 2022 #73
"...we find the decision to reward Mark Meadows and Dan Scavino for their continued attack on... LudwigPastorius Jun 2022 #60
The DOJ decision is beyond puzzling. It is detrimental to the truth and to upholding the law. Lonestarblue Jun 2022 #62
Garland is what goes on a Christmas tree... BlueJac Jun 2022 #63
The J6 committee just doesn't understand how government works. Lucky Luciano Jun 2022 #65
A lot of people here don't understand how this works either Novara Jun 2022 #67
sure. nt Grasswire2 Jun 2022 #71
Boy, I had it all wrong. I thought that Meadows and Sciavino got off contempt of congress... Frustratedlady Jun 2022 #87
LOL nt Grasswire2 Jun 2022 #70
Airtight? For A Fucking Contempt Charge? SoCalDavidS Jun 2022 #83
There are i's to dot and t's to cross. Serious people say this is needed. I believe them. Lucky Luciano Jun 2022 #88
No i's And No t's If There Isn't Anything That's Going To Be Done SoCalDavidS Jun 2022 #89
You are right...and I was hoping the absurdity of my posts... Lucky Luciano Jun 2022 #95
DOJ knows something Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #74
I'll likely get crucified for this, but I'm going to give the DoJ the benefit of the doubt on this. Celerity Jun 2022 #81
Well, The January 6th Commission, Filled With Democrats, Is Not Giving Them The Benefit Of The Doubt SoCalDavidS Jun 2022 #84
** Grasswire2 Jun 2022 #86
Neither you nor the Committee do not know everything that the DoJ is doing Celerity Jun 2022 #90
Nor Do You SoCalDavidS Jun 2022 #92
The fact I do not know just further strengthens my case Celerity Jun 2022 #96
I Lived Through Iran-Contra, I Lived Through The Iraq War Lies SoCalDavidS Jun 2022 #97
for now housecat Jun 2022 #85
What ?? Bones1 Jun 2022 #91
That's what I was thinking Alice Kramden Jun 2022 #93
DOJ is not doing their job. This is potentially the end of democracy if they can't indict those Evolve Dammit Jun 2022 #94

Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #1)

onecaliberal

(32,854 posts)
5. Apparently people ARE above the law. I dare anyone else to do the same as these pigs and watch what
Fri Jun 3, 2022, 11:02 PM
Jun 2022

Happens to you.

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
21. Fanni Willis is the last hope now
Fri Jun 3, 2022, 11:29 PM
Jun 2022

And the fact that a local DA in Georgia is the only one willing to fight to save her country is appalling.

mopinko

(70,099 posts)
53. garland's first task should have been to root out the ones who had burrowed in.
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 08:11 AM
Jun 2022

i know that justice, above all depts, needs to be above politics.
but in today's world, that means rooting out those who are there ONLY for the politics.

ecstatic

(32,701 posts)
9. Good. Keep the pressure on. NOBODY is above law
Fri Jun 3, 2022, 11:07 PM
Jun 2022

not meadows, scavino, mccarthy, loudermilk, gohmert or any of the other lawless qop fucks. Lock them up!!!

ecstatic

(32,701 posts)
57. Lol. The J6 committee...
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 10:20 AM
Jun 2022

Not that a strongly worded tweet will make much of a difference. Hopefully they are reaching out in other ways as well.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
49. Did you read the same report I did? Because there is no pressure, and some people
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 05:59 AM
Jun 2022

clearly ARE above the law.

If the DOJ declines to prosecute you for blatant crimes, that means you are above the law.

None of them is going to get locked up.

onecaliberal

(32,854 posts)
12. How does Garland claim to be going after everyone at all levels associated with J6?
Fri Jun 3, 2022, 11:11 PM
Jun 2022

Asking for a country?

Takket

(21,564 posts)
17. especially on a contempt charge.......
Fri Jun 3, 2022, 11:19 PM
Jun 2022

it is a pretty simply binary crime. you are asked to show up at a time and place. either you do or don't show up. not a lot needs to be interpreted here. in fact if i was Navarro or Bannon right now I'd be making the case that my 14th amendment rights are being violated because i'm facing prison time for the EXACT same crime that Meadows committed with no indictment.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
77. Wait - just the other day on 'Justice Matters'
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 05:10 PM
Jun 2022

I heard Glenn Kirschner say that a friend of Garland said: "HE'S NOT AFRAID OF ANYONE!"

Er, say what?

Takket

(21,564 posts)
13. wow..... i took the hopeful viewpoint that DOJ didn't indict because they had helped the Jan 6
Fri Jun 3, 2022, 11:12 PM
Jun 2022

committee.......... obviously that isn't the case, and the committee's investigation has clearly been hampered by this.

considering how close to drumpf that meadows is, DOJ allowing him to skate may cripple any attempts to indict and prosecute drumpf.

agingdem

(7,849 posts)
37. Garland did not sabotage the J6 committee
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 12:48 AM
Jun 2022

Meadows and Scavino sitting in the hot seat claiming executive privilege 500 times gets them nowhere..the bottom line is the J6 committee is tasked with telling the story of January 6 in all it's terrifying glory...right now I'm more interested in the story the committee has to tell than Meadows evading a J6 contempt charge..and don't forget Garland has convened a number of federal grand juries with the focus on Trump and his inner circle of coup co-conspirators..Garland doesn't need a J6 referral to indict Trump..

Attilatheblond

(2,163 posts)
41. Garland doesn't need a referral to indict Meadows and Scavino
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 01:42 AM
Jun 2022

Didn't Olly North go free because he was convicted after he had received some sort of immunity deal to testify before congress in the Iran-Contra affair?

If the J6 Comte really pushes for Meadows and Scavino to appear there, perhaps their counsels would insist on immunity from prosecution in exchange for actual testimony. Maybe THAT is what Garland wants to avoid. Without the threat of prosecution for their own crimes hanging over their heads, they might not be put into positions where they would give up information, in court, to nail Trump's hide to the wall and throw others into prison.

Gonna sit back and wait. Thinking Garland's people are probably playing a smart game. The Comte already has, what was reported, over 2000 texts and docs from Meadows? They might like having him for their public hearings, but they might not really need him for their actual investigation into needed legislation to prevent this whole coup crap in the future. And yes, I do believe a subpoena should be enforced, unless it might mean an immunity deal messing with convictions and prison for the mob bosses that tried to overthrow our government.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
25. Feeling ever more cynical here.
Fri Jun 3, 2022, 11:34 PM
Jun 2022

I trust the J6 Committee wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more than the DoJ.

I hope some of the best reporters are on this tonight.

Enormous scandal with possible devastating consequences for the republic.

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
82. Not even the Jan 6 committee it seems....
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 05:28 PM
Jun 2022

and they seem rather pissed about it. My heart wants to believe Garland is playing multi-dimensional chess. My brain tells me he's a milksop who needs to be replaced quickly.

WiVoter

(908 posts)
27. I Don't Know If This Makes A Difference. But
Fri Jun 3, 2022, 11:44 PM
Jun 2022

Woodward, Bernstein & John Dean were on CNN, I think it was Anderson Cooper, and one of them speculated that a possible reason Meadows & Scavino were left out was because there’s a deal being worked out/or worked out already, between them and the J6 Committee. I guess we’ll see what happens.

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
52. I agree with you.
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 07:08 AM
Jun 2022

That would not make sense, unless it was a deal with the DOJ. I could see a snivelling rat like meadows doing a deal, but I'd be surprised if Scavino did.

liberalla

(9,247 posts)
72. I wondered about that... I guess it would be possible even without the J6 committee's knowledge...
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 04:40 PM
Jun 2022

But we are just speculating here. I admit I'm hoping there's a good explanation for DoJ making this decision/announcement, and not just letting them off the hook.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
32. Thank goodness that J6 did not provide the interviews/evidence that DoJ was asking for.
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 12:17 AM
Jun 2022

Someone was thinking smart on the committee there.

dchill

(38,488 posts)
36. A superficial claim of executive privilege might be...
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 12:36 AM
Jun 2022

...why they're not being charged. Also, they might be cooperating. In addition, however, the AG is definitely a member of the Federalist Society. So the whole situation is a big, sticky magnet for a conspiracy theory or three.

ShazzieB

(16,389 posts)
45. Source?
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 02:00 AM
Jun 2022

What is your source for stating that Garland is "definitely a member of the Federalist Society"? I know there have been rumors, but I haven't seen any conclusive evidence (with emphasis on "conclusive&quot .

kentuck

(111,092 posts)
39. It is very possible, in my opinion...
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 01:29 AM
Jun 2022

...that they may be working with the DOJ? That may have been their reward?

Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
44. I'm given two replies when I ask that question
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 01:54 AM
Jun 2022

1. It hasn't been used for a very long time.

2. There is no jail facility or services to feed/care for prisoners.


Of course, D.C. lockup isn't far away, and has a new wing.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
51. To all who are saying that this means they must be cooperating with the DOJ:
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 06:06 AM
Jun 2022

if that were true, why wouldn't the DOJ say, "We're not prosecuting because they're cooperating."

It would be a boon to the DOJ and scare others to come forward if they could say that.

But they don't say it.

They aren't cooperating.

They're just above the law.

LudwigPastorius

(9,139 posts)
61. In these highest-of-profile cases, I'm sure the Attorney General has the last word on...
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 01:21 PM
Jun 2022

who is, or isn't, indicted.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
64. +1. One thing we do know, talking heads can't guest on political shows
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 03:46 PM
Jun 2022

for 2 years admitting they don't know what's happening while waiting for release of information from inside. Day after day, they must intrigue viewers into listening to them by sounding as if they always know something more.

Feeding viewers' feelings back to them, including "validating" frustration that threatens to lose viewers, is a reliable fallback when they tap out for lack of information.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
69. You don't believe what the J6 committee communicates on a public platform??
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 04:38 PM
Jun 2022

Wow.

I wouldn't call their words "speculations"

LudwigPastorius

(9,139 posts)
60. "...we find the decision to reward Mark Meadows and Dan Scavino for their continued attack on...
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 01:13 PM
Jun 2022

the rule of law puzzling."

I would have substituted "bullshit" for "puzzling", but I understand they have to maintain a certain level of decorum.

Lonestarblue

(9,986 posts)
62. The DOJ decision is beyond puzzling. It is detrimental to the truth and to upholding the law.
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 01:25 PM
Jun 2022

The committee seems to believe that Meadows has evidence that would directly tie Trump to the planning of the insurrection and thus to criminal behavior. Forcing Meadows to testify and turn over remaining documents could in turn force the DOJ to take action against Trump. I believe they are doing everything possible to avoid doing that. Opinion only—no facts to cite.

BlueJac

(7,838 posts)
63. Garland is what goes on a Christmas tree...
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 03:19 PM
Jun 2022

He is not worthy of Attorney General. We need serious action!

Lucky Luciano

(11,254 posts)
65. The J6 committee just doesn't understand how government works.
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 03:47 PM
Jun 2022

They need to see how real law enforcement dots all their i’s and crosses all their t’s before a move can be made. Garland has to make sure the case is airtight, and rest assured, he is doing everything the right way. The J6 committee is obviously very naive as to how things really work.

Novara

(5,842 posts)
67. A lot of people here don't understand how this works either
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 04:05 PM
Jun 2022

Navarro was easy: he balked from Day 1, citing privilege, which he himself waived by telling all in a book and in TV interviews. THAT'S why he was indicted. HE didn't even hint at cooperating.

Meadows and Sciavino cooperated - up to a point. They didn't shove their middle finger into the J6 committee's faces from the start. Plus, no one here knows whether they are making a deal with the DOJ to flip and give up the orange motherfucker himself. That is a possibility. Wouldn't you much rather see the orange motherfucker go to prison than Meadows be indicted for contempt? I sure would.

The J6 committee is pissed off whenever anybody defies them, and justifiably so. However, all you people jumping to the worst possible conclusions need to step back and see what develops. These two won't get away scot-free. They may right now be giving up a much bigger fish. And I'd much rather see that than for them to be prosecuted right now for what is essentially a parking ticket compared to the much larger crimes all of them committed.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
87. Boy, I had it all wrong. I thought that Meadows and Sciavino got off contempt of congress...
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 06:09 PM
Jun 2022

because they cooperated (somewhat) while Navarro didn't and threatened to sue most everyone he could think of, including Dr. Fauci. Since the other two turned over documents and other information, they couldn't be considered in contempt of court, BUT they could later be charged with criminal acts in the next portion of the DOJ's investigation.

Good thing I'm not a lawyer, right?

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
83. Airtight? For A Fucking Contempt Charge?
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 05:33 PM
Jun 2022

I think it would take all of about 5 seconds for a Contempt charge to be issued against ANYBODY on DU who failed to appear in court if subpoenaed. That would be "airtight" enough for them to throw ANY of us in the slammer.

I guess power brings privileges, and puts you ABOVE THE LAW though.

Lucky Luciano

(11,254 posts)
95. You are right...and I was hoping the absurdity of my posts...
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 08:44 PM
Jun 2022

Last edited Sat Jun 4, 2022, 10:50 PM - Edit history (1)

…would have been obvious sarcasm (I hate explicitly using the sarcasm emoji as it kills all the fun!). I guess there are enough people here who could say all that with a straight face though!

Celerity

(43,349 posts)
81. I'll likely get crucified for this, but I'm going to give the DoJ the benefit of the doubt on this.
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 05:17 PM
Jun 2022

We simply do not know what they know in regards to the overarching investigation.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
84. Well, The January 6th Commission, Filled With Democrats, Is Not Giving Them The Benefit Of The Doubt
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 05:35 PM
Jun 2022

Do you honestly think they would be saying what they did last night, if they thought there was more going on behind the scenes?

The fact they chose not to remain silent, tells me everything I need to know.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
86. **
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 06:01 PM
Jun 2022

So now, we have received TWO notices from J6 that something is amiss.

1. the recent refusal of the DoJ request for transcripts of committee interviews with actors who might become charged

2. Last night. A notice to the American people that some chicanery may be afoot in an effort to stop their work.

Anyone who does not see the signal here from J6 is fooling themselves.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
92. Nor Do You
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 06:36 PM
Jun 2022

You have your opinion, which is fine. My opinion is that in the end, they aren’t gonna do a thing to hold those at the top of the food chain accountable. And those at the top of that chain are well aware of this.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
97. I Lived Through Iran-Contra, I Lived Through The Iraq War Lies
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 11:12 PM
Jun 2022

I lived through "W" illegitimately winning not 1, but 2 elections. I lived through 2 Impeachments of TFG, the 1st of which basically implicated him in essentially being part of a conspiracy to Rig the 2016 election.

I have very little faith in this country's system of "justice." Some people are above the law. Some are "too big to fail," so to speak.

I see this playing out exactly the same way. I'll be ecstatic if I'm wrong. Precedent in terms of the "accountability" cases I listed above, tells me it's unlikely I will be.

But if I am, I'll be the 1st to speak out and say so. And quite happily I might add.

Evolve Dammit

(16,725 posts)
94. DOJ is not doing their job. This is potentially the end of democracy if they can't indict those
Sat Jun 4, 2022, 07:41 PM
Jun 2022

that planned and participated in 1/6. After Mueller, I should not be surprised. I am more disgusted than surprised. The average person can see that a criminal mob boss has taken over a major party (one of two) with the help of Russia, to divide this country and encourage a violent overthrow. And DOJ fiddles.

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