How many states are already undemocratic?

[Stinky The Clown]

What states have devolved to one party rule and no effective way to vote out the bad guys.

I'd say Florida, for sure.

Probably Texas as well.

South Dakota?

Oklahoma?

Anyone else?

Big question is what to do about it?

[Docreed2003]

1. Tennessee

The having total control isn't enough...these fuckers are so craven that they carved up the Nashville congressional district, which was a blue island in a sea of crimson red, and split it between three red districts. They totally removed Rep Cooper's seat in Congress.

[2 Meow Momma]

3. Agree totally. State govt is brutally red. nt

[Nay]

2. Idaho, Ohio, Indiana, Montana.

[imaginary girl]

13. Yes for Indiana

After Obama won here in 2008, there were serious measures put in place to make sure nothing like that happened again!

[LakeArenal]

4. Wisconsin. Sometimes referred to as Wiskochson.

Republicans have taken a lot of power from the Governor.

[brooklynite]

5. So, give up on Crist? O'Rourke? Ryan? Evers?

If there's "no effective way to vote out the bad guys" should we stop trying?

[dawg]

7. I think statewide races almost aways have the chance to be competitive.

But many state legislatures are gerrymandered all to hell and we can't overcome that without a massive shift in the electorate.

[CrackityJones75]

8. Agreed.

More of these types of posts here than I care for.

[Rebl2]

6. Missouri

[BlackSkimmer]

9. Funny how the majority of states mentioned in this thread are not in the south.

So much for our "civil war" proponents here who think the country would be split as it was in 1861.

[In It to Win It]

10. They are not to be excluded. The forces that influence the southern states

have spread into many others.

[BlackSkimmer]

15. I live in NC, with a Dem governor.

NC voted for Obama. Large blue areas. And good people everywhere.

There is no "southern" influence...these racists and asshats are all over the country. I have rarely seen a confederate flag in my state, but I've seen many flying in upstate NY, PA, Ohio, and all over the west.

[In It to Win It]

16. I live in Florida that also voted for Obama (twice), with very good people, with large blue areas

The influence I'm referring is the undemocratic influence of the right wing, not a racial influence. I'm not referring to conference flags.

The same undemocratic influence that stem from states like Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, Texas, Florida (all southern states) has spread elsewhere. I wouldn't leave NC out of that either. That influence also exist in North Carolina. It exists all over the south. I seem to recall that the state legislature took a giant undemocratic power grab when Roy Cooper won his election.

[BlackSkimmer]

22. Ah. gotcha.

[keep_left]

21. I'm sure that the Research Triangle Park and UNC area voters have a lot to do with that...

...but you do have a point. Even a lot of deep blue states like MN and MA have some real chud areas. For example, in outstate MN, it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility to see a Confederate flag. And MN was the first state to send troops to the Civil War!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Minnesota_Infantry_Regiment

[GoodRaisin]

23. I live in eastern NC, lots of RW influence here.

Probably why Trump holds so many of his rallies here.

[BlackSkimmer]

24. Maybe. Tfg holds rallies in a lot of mid west states too.

You could not pay me to live in those states.

NC is a wonderful place, wonderful climate, wonderful people, beaches, mountains, small towns, you name it.

[GoodRaisin]

26. Everything but the legislature.

Yeah.

[IA8IT]

11. IOWA!! AR-15 deer hunting WTF iowa. waiting for Gov. Killer Kim to sign.

[sarcasmo]

12. Mississippi

[moondust]

14. Bannon pushing local takeovers.

Saw a little of Tiffany Cross show this morning that showed Bannon on the radio openly urging the nutbags to get into state and local offices so they can control elections and ensure they are "fair." Of course by "fair" he means the nutbags always "win."

[DonCoquixote]

17. anywhere in the old CSA

The confederacy has been waging a cold civil war since Appomattox, give or take a cross burning. Now, we have the Yankees who fled to Florida to avoid the taxes that gave them their infrastructure, which gave them their money, to pay for it.

[Irish_Dem]

18. States which are rejecting democracy, and installing permanent GOP dictatorships.

They will reject any federal control, but still take federal monies.

The blue states will in effect be paying the states which have seceded from the union.

The GOP goal is control of the entire country, state by state.

[gulliver]

19. They're all still democratic

It's an unhelpful exaggeration to say they aren't. It undermines democracy from our side. We can say Republicans are desecrating democracy in some locales, but we shouldn't say they've succeeded in eliminating it. It might discourage our voters, for one thing.

[Chainfire]

20. With the blessing of Republican voters Florida has been converted to a monarchy.

King Ron I rules with an iron fist, striking down truth and justice where ever they raise their ugly heads. Supported by a sniveling band of cowards, called our congress, they are determined to support straight, white, Christian values, gun rights and big money from the evils of sexual freedom and Democracy.

[EX500rider]

25. undemocratic how?

If Democratic politicians get more votes they get elected or are you saying they don't? Gerrymandering does not help with State wide votes.

[roamer65]

27. 2018 was a watershed moment for Michigan.

MJ legalization, independent commission redistricting and vote by mail all passed.

…and we elected Big Gretch as guv.