The SCOTUS Charade Of Investigating Law Clerks But Not Ginni Thomas

[babylonsister]

https://crooksandliars.com/2022/06/scotus-charade-investigating-law-clerks

The SCOTUS Charade Of Investigating Law Clerks But Not Ginni Thomas
Elie Mystal lowered the boom on SCOTUS’ hypocrisy of demanding private cell phone data from young law clerks over the Roe leak, while giving a pass to the obviously corrupt actions of the possible leakers, Clarence and Ginni Thomas.
By NewsHound Ellen — June 4, 2022


Elie Mystal lowered the boom on SCOTUS’ hypocrisy of demanding private cell phone data from young law clerks, over the Roel eak, while giving a pass to the obviously corrupt, possible leakers Clarence and Ginni Thomas.

Leaking the draft Roe v. Wade “doesn't actually seem to be a crime—at least not by any clear and undisputed definition,” according to Wired. Yet, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas' failure to recuse himself on 2020 election-related issues, while his wife was working to overturn the election results, has elicited silence from the highest court in the land.

Elie Mystal perfectly summed up the depressing situation. First, he pointed out that the Supreme Court has no ethics rules. While Congress could pass some, it has not. So, we are left with this:

MYSTAL: They are literally willing to ask their own employees, mainly young people, you know, people who are under the age of 30, who are in their first job. They are willing to violate, potentially, their privacy rights and get their phone records and investigate a leak..

Are they asking Clarence Thomas for his phone records? Are they willing to investigate the corruption that is in plain sight with the wife of one of the justices? Apparently not.

So, there's a double standard here, where John Roberts and his crew are willing to be seen like big, bad men to a 26-year-old law clerk but they won't go after Clarence Thomas and they won't deal with the corruption in their own house. And hence, you have their hypocrisy.

But again, when we talk about hypocrisy, these are people who are straight-up about to say that you have more rights if you own a gun than if you own a uterus. So hypocrisy is not a thing that the Supreme Court has a problem with. They're comfortable to live in their own dripping hypocrisy.

And, by the way, these are not two separate issues. As C&L’s Susie Madrak pointed out, Ginni Thomas seems quite a likely suspect for the leak.

[Novara]

1. THERE IS NO PROOF SHE IS THE SOURCE OF THE LEAK

Isn't it bad enough the other side is full of conspiracy theories?

This is only innuendo. Y'all need to learn how to make the distinction between innuendo and evidence.

[bucolic_frolic]

2. We do not know at this point that "THERE IS NO PROOF"

There could be. There might be. They could look, and investigate. No proof has been presented, but would they provide this proof publicly? There may well be no proof. And no way to hold married couple to their private conversations.

If they did catch the Thomases red-handed, what could they do about it? The husband is under no ethical obligation to recuse. And spouses cannot be compelled to testify against one another. That goes with the territory.

So let the process play out. Investigation involves uncomfortable questions and trial theories and balloons. The press plays a vital role in examining public matters. Investigate before exonerate.

[padfun]

3. There is a difference between proof and evidence.

Proof is the final determination, usually coming from evidence. Your statement seems to be saying, "There is no evidence." It is way too early to determine proof.

So is there evidence of this? Possibly.

[hlthe2b]

7. thus the point of investigation... There is no proof any specific clerk is the source, either.

They had access and a valid investigation would include ALL who HAD ACCESS. That includes all the SCOTUS justices and Clarence Thomas who was hospitalized at the time. SCOTUS Justices are not banned from taking case materials home with them. Investigations seek evidence. Evidence is not in and of itself PROOF. You seem confused.

[yardwork]

8. +1

[Ferrets are Cool]

15. +1

[mopinko]

9. this is not court, and mystal has a very good reputation.

this is not the op's opinion, it's the opinion of most even slightly left leaning journalists.

there wouldnt be much traffic here if all we talked about were facts that would stand up in a courtroom.

[dixiechiken1]

17. THERE IS NO PROOF THAT A YOUNG CLERK IS THE SOURCE OF THE LEAK

Yet they are having to lawyer up because their private cell phone data is being demanded. Is the same data being demanded of any/all of the SCOTUS Justices? And/or their spouses? If not, why not?

[plimsoll]

18. So, true,

It's Beerbong that has a history of being the designated leaker. All through the Lewinsky mess the leaks from Starrs team came from Brett. Are they checkin his phone records, I mean, the man has as the Brits say "form."

[llashram]

23. like

Ginni huh... Take a good close look at this SC. Ginni is part of the 'big lie' crowd. Clarence is part of the fascist section of the Supreme Court. Slam dunk, you will see.

[The Bopper]

28. Sedition

Sedition seems to be easily provable if the reporting is correct. To say that investigators should ignore the worst felony imaginable by a government employee (and yes, he is a government employee with obvious contacts to a seditious jerk) should have been hauled in by now and questioned under oath. I’m tired of this one way BS.

[Irish_Dem]

4. Ginni is a GOP/ SC mascot. She will be protected at all costs.

[tanyev]

10. I've begun to wonder if Clarence's primary qualification for his SC job was Ginni's GOP connections.

[Irish_Dem]

13. Excellent point, it is certainly looking that way.

Thomas has no redeeming professional or personal qualities whatsoever.

But his wife is seen as a GOP cult member powerhouse.

So in effect she is sitting on the SC.

Would explain why Thomas never says anything. He takes his orders from headquarters.

[spanone]

5. K&R

[Diamond_Dog]

6. I am beyond sick and tired of these traitors getting away with their crimes

Why do we have laws if privilege exempts certain individuals over and over again?

[BlueJac]

11. Agree 100%

[TeamProg]

12. K&R Thanks for posting. n/t

[70sEraVet]

14. "You shall not commit a perversion of justice;" Lev. 19:15

Odd, when you hear Evangelicals demanding that our country should follow the 'word of G-d', they're never talking about verses like this.

[Lonestarblue]

16. Nor do they follow the numerous exhortations in the Bible against lying.

Many verses call lying an abomination in the eyes of the Lord. Seems pretty clear, but the so-called God-fearing Republicans have mastered lying and use it constantly against their political enemies whether they’re describing gun regulation, abortion, LGBTQ, anything. And they absolutely worship a man know for adultery, corruption, and outrageous lying.

[sanatanadharma]

19. Excellent billboard, print ad or possible video

"Leviticus 19:15 You shall not commit a perversion of justice"

printed with imagery of GOP/ Scotus perversions of justice
Perversions like end of Roe, taxing more the poor, growing Jim Crow, ginning up guns-insanity

[ancianita]

20. Even if there is proof, neither Thomas is under SCOTUS jurisdiction. Just the clerks working there.

That's the one issue -- jurisdiction over workers inside the court. The court justices themselves have supreme immunity from investigation by anyone but Congress. Ginni Thomas is subject to Jan 6 and DOJ investigation. And yes, clerks and the Thomases really are separate jurisdictions even if they're not separate issues.

[Sympthsical]

21. Are we still on this conspiracy theory?

Not a great look for us.

It was probably a clerk. I saw a really good piecing together of which clerk, and I'm fairly convinced it was probably them. Like an 80% chance. There were significant personal connections with the Politico reporter who wrote the story.

[llashram]

25. possibly

and thank god for your choice. This leak was on purpose to see what kind of reaction, which is ALL we can do in these times except VOTE, comes from the general electorate. The alleged law clerk leak is just that.

[llashram]

26. you saw "piecing"

I saw alleged. These FASCISTS on the Supreme Court know exactly what they are doing to undermine this democracy AND the rule of law. That's my take and I'm sticking with it.

[Sympthsical]

27. I stick with evidence and likelihood

There is a clerk who is an abortion activist and married to someone who is friends with and shared bylines several years back with the Politico reporter who released the draft.

If you want to dismiss that connection, fine. I mean, that's not even piecing. That's a direct trace from end point to potential source.

However, what I won't do is speculate wildly for a theory that crafts a narrative I want to be true for the sake of my politics.

We have no idea who did it, because we haven't seen the evidence. However, circumstantially, I'd be putting my money down on that clerk. As I said, probably about 80% sure there. I bet Roberts has a good idea of who it is. However, he probably can't definitively prove things, so we're seeing this phone stuff.

I bet they're not seeking to look at everyone. I bet they're seeking to look at someone.

[llashram]

29. there will be

a sacrificial pawn, maybe. I stick with my opinion. Just as your explanation is.

[Sympthsical]

30. Ok, but an opinion has to be rooted in facts to count

These are the facts known at the moment.

You're already indicating that you're going to stick with your opinion even if facts contravene it. You've set up dismissal of evidence with the "sacrificial pawn" scenario.

That's kind of how conspiracy theories are set up. That more facts are revealed, even those directly opposed to the belief, the stronger the confirmation of the belief.

That's not a great way to operate.

[llashram]

31. so you say

good luck...

[llashram]

22. it seems obvious

who leaked...Ginni and clarence. Definitely Ginni.

[Buckeyeblue]

24. Are the justices being investigated?

If the clerks have to give up their cell phones, the justices should as well.