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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 10:50 AM Jun 2022

An old man says to his grandson: 'There's a fight going on inside me."

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An old man says to his grandson: 'There's a fight going on inside me. It's a terrible fight between two wolves. One is evil -- angry, greedy, jealous, arrogant, and cowardly. The other is good -- peaceful, loving, modest, generous, honest, and trustworthy. These two wolves are also fighting within you, and inside every other person too.'
After a moment, the boy asks, 'Which wolf will win?'
The old man smiles.
'The one you feed.'


--Rutger Bregman, Humankind: A Hopeful History
https://theacademy.sdsu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/two-wolves-cherokee-story.pdf
https://www.claritychi.com/the-cherokee-two-wolves-story-and-the-power-of-mindset/


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An old man says to his grandson: 'There's a fight going on inside me." (Original Post) kpete Jun 2022 OP
It's American Indian. Cherokee, I think leftyladyfrommo Jun 2022 #1
Yes and it is a good quote padah513 Jun 2022 #7
No. It's from Billy Graham. intheflow Jun 2022 #15
I see the wolves as "corruption" and "innocence" nuxvomica Jun 2022 #2
It's an old Native-American (Cherokee) tale... State the Obvious Jun 2022 #3
That is a great old story. MineralMan Jun 2022 #4
Thank you for this! Novara Jun 2022 #5
oh, that was very GOOD. thanks riversedge Jun 2022 #6
That was great! Maine Abu El Banat Jun 2022 #8
Every person in America needs to see that quote and hear it repeatedly. Lonestarblue Jun 2022 #9
Worth mentioning, that's the opposite of "common sense" bhikkhu Jun 2022 #10
My adopted uncle (Seneca-Cayuga tribe) told me that story when I was a youngster in Ohio. cayugafalls Jun 2022 #11
Always good to write it down in some form. calimary Jun 2022 #13
GREAT QUOTE Stuart G Jun 2022 #12
This was created by Billy Graham. intheflow Jun 2022 #14
Interesting. The author does say that "This story seems to have begun in 1978..." cayugafalls Jun 2022 #16

nuxvomica

(12,422 posts)
2. I see the wolves as "corruption" and "innocence"
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 10:56 AM
Jun 2022

The corruption wolf is characterized by sham, drudgery and fear while the innocence wolf is honest, playful and full of wonder.

State the Obvious

(842 posts)
3. It's an old Native-American (Cherokee) tale...
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 11:17 AM
Jun 2022

...called the BATTLE OF TWO WOLVES. It is the young grandson who asks that question to his wise grandfather, the tribal Chief. (Moral of story, the same.)

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
4. That is a great old story.
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 11:24 AM
Jun 2022

I heard it long, long ago, and always thought it was well worth remembering.

Lonestarblue

(9,981 posts)
9. Every person in America needs to see that quote and hear it repeatedly.
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 12:47 PM
Jun 2022

Republican leaders and politicians, Fox, hate radio personalities, Internet conspiracy sites, and some social media feed the angry, hatful wolf every single day. They do not want the good wold to win.

bhikkhu

(10,715 posts)
10. Worth mentioning, that's the opposite of "common sense"
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 01:15 PM
Jun 2022

which in various ways teaches that if we bottle up our feelings they'll eat us up inside.

I've always felt the thing the OP describes, especially when I was a teenager. Without thinking it through really I did decide to not act on or express bad or harmful feelings; pretty much just using self-discipline. I never did get "eaten up inside" or whatever, and the primary regrets I have are the few times I did say harmful things, rather than using my better judgement and ignoring/suppressing the impulses.

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
11. My adopted uncle (Seneca-Cayuga tribe) told me that story when I was a youngster in Ohio.
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 01:28 PM
Jun 2022

He was a dear friend of the family and I miss him to this day.

So much wisdom we have washed over and pushed down.

calimary

(81,222 posts)
13. Always good to write it down in some form.
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 01:35 PM
Jun 2022

I’ve found that writing stuff down always seems to help with remembering.

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
16. Interesting. The author does say that "This story seems to have begun in 1978..."
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 02:06 PM
Jun 2022

And then presents a story by Graham about an Eskimo and his dogs.

Personally, I believe that parables are timeless throughout culture. Even a bar drunk can stumble upon a "bit of wisdom" when he tells a drunken story from some long distant memory lost in the fog of his stupor.

The author of that article you cited, cites a tumblr researcher that no longer exists, so the trail goes cold rather quickly.

The version I remember, is not quite the same as either story, but the parable remains the same.

If you harbor evil in your heart and dwell upon the darkness, it will overtake you.

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