Congrat's on your EV's and emission standards... we're still screwed.

[WarGamer]

Car Tire Creates More Pollution Than Vehicle Exhaust, Claims Experts; Tips On How To Maintain Your Wheels

In 2020, UK independent emissions testing firm Emissions Analytics published a research paper claiming that tire particulate wear emissions were 1,000 times worse than exhaust emissions. It generated a huge amount of attention, with the story translated into over 40 languages worldwide.

Thanks to their efforts, they discovered that tires generate more pollution particles than car exhausts. Experts claim that they can easily enter the human bloodstream and lungs once they become smaller.

Other recent research has suggested tyre particles are a major source of the microplastics polluting the oceans. A specific chemical used in tyres has been linked to salmon deaths in the US and California proposed a ban this month.

https://www.techtimes.com/articles/276330/20220604/car-tire-creates-more-pollution-vehicle-exhaust-claims-experts-tips.htm

[NickB79]

1. You know, I never really considered where the tire tread goes

But it makes sense. Every year you wear a fraction of an inch off your tires. Multiply by the billions of tires on the road and that's a massive amount of rubber released.

[WarGamer]

2. Yeah, especially the production of micro particles...

nm sized particles are dangerous.

[gulliver]

3. Another reason for remote work and supply chain streamlining.

These problems should be taken as challenges, each with an opportunity for victory.

[In It to Win It]

19. ...and investing in mass transit to get more cars off the road

[Blues Heron]

4. I think I'll just have mask surgically stapled over my face

[Ohio Joe]

5. Complex problems require multiple solutions

Poo-pooing any given solution as not total is not constructive IMO. Additional solutions should be presented as such instead of being put out as why other solutions are no good.

YMMV.

[dpibel]

6. CO2 is not particulates

Not saying that this type of pollution doesn't matter. But it's not going to ruin the world the way climate change is.

The hed on this article (which does not match the correct hed on the article it cannibalizes) is misleading.

There's nothing in the information presented that indicates that tires are a greater source of all pollution. Just particulates.

Pretty sure that tires don't hold a candle to exhaust pipes for emission of CO2.

[WarGamer]

7. Yeah, so?

This OP is about particulates.


But let's talk CO2...

While the US and the Industrial West devote attention and money to CO2 reduction, India and China are opening new coal fired power plants weekly.

We're looking at 1000ppm by 2100 which loosely translates to palm trees on the North Pole.

Yeah, we're screwed.

Mitigation is a joke, time to prepare.

[jeffreyi]

11. Yep.

Horrible to watch, especially for those of us who study and live in and love what was in the natural world. I am glad for not replicating. As far as I'm concerned, a lower human population number, voluntary or otherwise, is the only thing that will eventually "save the day". We just can't technologize our way out of this one.

[WarGamer]

12. +1000 true...

Too damn many people.

We screwed the pooch... took this beautiful home, once thought to be soooo huge it was immune to change... and fucked it up.

[dpibel]

20. We're screwed, but not by tires

You seem to agree with me that the real threat is CO2.

Particulate pollution is not going to end the world.

The subject line of your OP indicates that EVs and emission standards are of no avail, for we suffer even greater ill effects from tires.

That's nonsense.

[WarGamer]

21. we're screwed on both ends.

The CO2 curve is about to go parabolic... and we're making the air chokingly full of particulates.

Way to go humans... took the one place within a million light years that's PERFECT and shit on it.

[brush]

8. Thanks for differentiating between two different types of pollution.

[Voltaire2]

9. This is big oil bullshit. It is straight out of

the tobacco companies playbook.

[WarGamer]

10. lol... explain.

[Voltaire2]

13. It's utter nonsense.

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/electric-cars/running/do-electric-vehicles-produce-more-tyre-and-brake-pollution-than-petrol-and/

Basically the claim is 9g per mile. It’s laughably wrong. A better question is who paid for this ‘analysis’.

[WarGamer]

14. lol your article is irrelevant to what I posted.

Look, squirrel!!

The OP article says particulate emissions from tires is 1000x more than particulate emissions from the tailpipe.

Can't refute that.

The article also says that heavier vehicles tend to shed more tire dust. Which is... logical.

[Voltaire2]

15. Try reading it.

A press release by Emissions Analytics suggested that particulate matter pollution from car tyre wear can be 1,000 times higher than car exhaust emissions, and that car tyres may produce as much as 9.28 grams of particulate matter per mile, or 5.8 grams per kilometre. This is, however, a worst-case scenario – a crucial point that is not mentioned in the press release and which has consequently led to the ‘1,000 times higher than car exhaust emissions’ finding being widely reported in the media. Some common-sense calculations show how extreme this case is.

A typical 16” family car tyre weighs around 9 kg, so four of them on a vehicle gives a total weight of 36 kg. That’s not just the tread, but the full tyres. If a car did shed 9.28 grams of particulate matter per mile from the tyres, then the car tyres would physically disappear – and the car would be running on its alloys – in less than 4,000 miles.

[WarGamer]

16. Someone didn't do the math...

milligrams, not grams.

[USALiberal]

17. Lol

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

18. So, drifting and doing burnouts in an electric Mustang is an environmental "minus"?