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Baitball Blogger

(46,705 posts)
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 08:56 AM Jun 2022

This guy on MSNBC has DeSantis pegged.

Mike Menudo?

He said that DeSantis resembles the dictators he loves to hate. He retaliates against people and organizations for a simple tweet. And he keeps attacking American icons. So far it’s baseball, Disney and even stepped in to tell small business what to do. And, yet, he plans to run in 2024 as a candidate for American president.


I agree. De Santis is little Fidel.

On edit: A Batista wannabe.

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This guy on MSNBC has DeSantis pegged. (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 OP
Fidel was benign compared to what Death Sentence would be as president. lark Jun 2022 #1
Agree. De Santis doesn't have any sensible filters. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #2
Actually atreides1 Jun 2022 #3
I think we could all stand to have a lesson on Bautista. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #4
Hmmm OLDMDDEM Jun 2022 #5
Batista came from the people, appealed as a populist, then turned on them, sold out to the mafia. ancianita Jun 2022 #7
The Batista-Lansky Alliance Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 #47
Keep the Fidel comparison plimsoll Jun 2022 #9
Fidel never, never ate his own. He never attacked people in his country. Where do you get this from ancianita Jun 2022 #6
Good info. Thanks! Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #19
Exactly! I am surprised at the Fidel Castro comparisons. LoisB Jun 2022 #21
Thx roody Jun 2022 #40
He also wants to take over Reedy Creek from Disney obamanut2012 Jun 2022 #8
If DeSantis takes power, there will be death squads. Hotler Jun 2022 #10
he made himself head of the Florida Guard onethatcares Jun 2022 #14
just like, people are not criminals until they commit a crime RicROC Jun 2022 #16
Deathsentence will create the emergency. overleft Jun 2022 #33
probably something about voter fraud onethatcares Jun 2022 #34
Oh! I definitely see it. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #22
I expect him to purge LGBT public servants obamanut2012 Jun 2022 #24
You need to give some sourcing for this. Some counterintel site. Because this is too serious a ancianita Jun 2022 #30
amazing. desantis was a proud dittohead, limbaugh was proud of him, he barely won and yet florida certainot Jun 2022 #11
Hope someone on our side hears you. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #25
The DeSantis-appointed BOG runs teh universities and colleges obamanut2012 Jun 2022 #26
basically those stations got desantis elected and they need those unis to help certainot Jun 2022 #46
DuhSantis..AKA the The Little General.. AKA the Little White Hope.... NoMoreRepugs Jun 2022 #12
Little League Nixon........ lastlib Jun 2022 #18
While railing against Maine Abu El Banat Jun 2022 #13
Repubs love the authoritarian strongman type IronLionZion Jun 2022 #15
He is like ... Trump Cosmocat Jun 2022 #17
He's a combination of technocrat and kleptocrat with megalomania. AZLD4Candidate Jun 2022 #28
Yep Cosmocat Jun 2022 #38
DeSantis has B.O. Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 #20
Have you been in close proximity to him to come up with Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #27
Photographic analysis. Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 #29
"Please clap" sealed it. And he was actually nearly making sense compared to the StableGenius. czarjak Jun 2022 #52
More Mussolini or Pinochet marmar Jun 2022 #23
I like Papa Doc DeSantis, And his supporters are the Ton Ton Le Q The Polack MSgt Jun 2022 #31
He behaves like his idol, the orange shit pile....and his cult love him for it. Hulk Jun 2022 #32
De Santis will beat Trump. slater71 Jun 2022 #35
He may get the nomination, but he won't win unless there is voter shenanigans. Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #45
If DeSantis wins presidency in 2024, there won't be a presidential election in 2028. bermudat Jun 2022 #51
Other than being an aspiring authoritarian, DeSantis isn't anything like Castro, or Batista. sop Jun 2022 #36
Thanks for that edit. De Satan is just like Batista and for the same reason Warpy Jun 2022 #37
BTW, here are the Covid stats for Forida DBoon Jun 2022 #53
DeSatan refused to divest state retirement system of Russian investments Fritz Walter Jun 2022 #39
Crist is still running? Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #41
Florida needs some strong democratic candidates. Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #44
Our primaries aren't until August obamanut2012 Jun 2022 #49
Guess so Fritz Walter Jun 2022 #50
He's going to keep on doing it. Baked Potato Jun 2022 #42
He hasn't got a chance. He's even dumber than the folks who voted for him Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #43
Spmeone's Pegging DeSantis? MineralMan Jun 2022 #48
Our job as Americans is to stop these fascist. The Jungle 1 Jun 2022 #54

lark

(23,099 posts)
1. Fidel was benign compared to what Death Sentence would be as president.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 08:58 AM
Jun 2022

He's a smarter, less blatantly profiteering criminal but every bit as right wing fascist authoritarian as drumpf.

Baitball Blogger

(46,705 posts)
2. Agree. De Santis doesn't have any sensible filters.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 09:04 AM
Jun 2022

He attacks American icons or First Amendment rights with the same dismissiveness as a foreigner.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
3. Actually
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 09:04 AM
Jun 2022

He's more like this guy...on his second time as head of state of Cuba!

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Fulgencio-Batista


Fulgencio Batista, in full Fulgencio Batista y Zaldívar, (born January 16, 1901, Banes, Cuba—died August 6, 1973, Marbella, Spain), soldier and political leader who twice ruled Cuba—first in 1933–44 with an efficient government and again in 1952–59 as a dictator, jailing his opponents, using terrorist methods, and making fortunes for himself and his associates.

Batista has been part of the myth of a great Cuba...told to generations of Cuban-Americans by their elders! When they see DeSantis they imagine him to be a reincarnation of Batista!!!

Baitball Blogger

(46,705 posts)
4. I think we could all stand to have a lesson on Bautista.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 09:07 AM
Jun 2022

It’s all making sense the more I hear about him.

Kid Berwyn

(14,904 posts)
47. The Batista-Lansky Alliance
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 02:48 PM
Jun 2022


The Batista-Lansky Alliance

How the mafia and a Cuban dictator built Havana's casinos


| By Matthew Reiss | From The Cuba Issue, May/Jun 01 Cigar Aficionado

It was December 31, 1958. Cuban dictator Fulgencio Batista raised a New Year's Eve toast to his cabinet members and senior military officers and wished them hasta la vista. After seven years of building Havana's tourism industry by inviting gangsters such as Meyer Lansky to construct casinos, helping to fund their enterprises and taking a large chunk of the proceeds for himself, Batista knew his presidency was over. His plundering had weakened Cuba's treasury and demoralized the army. He filled three cargo planes with all he could carry and was on his way to the Dominican Republic before the sun came up on 1959.

Nine days later, Fidel Castro's guerrillas took the capital and installed what would become the longest-lasting communist government in the Western Hemisphere. But while Castro could close the casinos, arrest the gangsters and deport or imprison Batista's henchmen, he could not bury the skyscrapers that had drained the wealth of the island. Castro inherited from Batista a Havana of overt poverty and ostentatious wealth, where the haves of the world's richest nations had come to exploit the have-nots; where statues of Lenin and Marx would be dwarfed by glass and stone monuments to the Mob; where the nation's architectural landmarks would be a constant reminder of the days when criminals were in charge and the Mafia roamed free.

But until that last day of 1958, the only revolution that mattered to Mafia financier Lansky involved a roulette wheel. During the Batista years, Cuba was a place where a crooked man could make an honest living. After a half century on the wrong side of the law in the United States, the celebrated gangster was legit. America's high rollers and celebrities were living large in the casino of Lansky's luxury hotel, the Riviera, and the drinks were on the house.

As a kid in Manhattan's Lower East Side ghetto in the early part of the century, Meyer Lansky learned how to cheat, bribe and split fees with other cheats. He ran into Charlie "Lucky" Luciano, as legend has it, in a street fight, and Lansky's tenacity convinced the Sicilian Luciano that this Jewish kid had possibilities. Together with another local Italian, Frank Costello, and a young tough named Benny "Bugsy" Siegel, they created a powerful network of numbers runners and bookies throughout the city. With Luciano at the helm and Lansky at the register, the combination soon expanded nationwide.

When Prohibition took effect in 1919, Lansky's and Luciano's gambling alliances helped provide contacts with illicit liquor distributors across the country. The pair soon controlled a healthy share of the import and transportation of bootleg liquor.

After 14 years of windfall profits, many bootleggers were put out of business by the market forces of competition when Prohibition was repealed in 1933. Lansky's financial success had already made him a target of law enforcement. When New York started getting too hot, Lansky looked for other places to take his gambling operations.

In the mid-1930s, a Cuban army sergeant named Fulgencio Batista took advantage of political chaos in the former Spanish colony and formed his own government. At the time, the island republic was foundering, as was its gambling industry. Years before, Havana's nightlife had attracted wealthy entertainers from the United States, such as Sarah Bernhardt and Enrico Caruso. But Cuba's gaming industry had become mired in cheating and corruption by the 1930s. So, in 1939, Batista recruited a New England racetrack owner named Lou Smith to revive Havana's Oriental Park track and Meyer Lansky to clean up the casinos.

Continues…

https://www.cigaraficionado.com/article/the-batista-lansky-alliance-7197

plimsoll

(1,668 posts)
9. Keep the Fidel comparison
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 09:39 AM
Jun 2022

People who aren’t living that freedom fighter cosplay anti Castro reenactment will know he’s more like Batista, but the followers will be confused long enough to actually pay attention. Democrats need to fiddle back with the emotions of the GOP base.

Sure they could start peddling an accurate reading of history, but that starts breaking other parts of the narrative.

ancianita

(36,055 posts)
6. Fidel never, never ate his own. He never attacked people in his country. Where do you get this from
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 09:28 AM
Jun 2022

Last edited Mon Jun 6, 2022, 10:53 AM - Edit history (1)

You might read up some more on Fidel Castro. He was everything the Batista fascist Cubans -- and Marco Rubio -- are not.

DeSantis can't be BOTH a little Fidel and Batista wannabe -- they're polar opposites.

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
8. He also wants to take over Reedy Creek from Disney
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 09:33 AM
Jun 2022

Not have the two local counties run stuff, but HE wants his office to literally take over Reedy Creek, which is Disney. So... like Castro taking over private companies???

Of course, he is really Batista and not Castro.

Hotler

(11,421 posts)
10. If DeSantis takes power, there will be death squads.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 09:45 AM
Jun 2022

They will come for Democrats and Liberals. They can't wait to kill. They're planning a purge. Don't take this lightly.

onethatcares

(16,168 posts)
34. probably something about voter fraud
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 11:26 AM
Jun 2022

and along with his poll watchers and his gestapo it's gonna be a rough election cycle here.

Baitball Blogger

(46,705 posts)
22. Oh! I definitely see it.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 10:36 AM
Jun 2022

They talk in codes. All he has to do is make a wishful thought out loud and one of the nutcases will make it come true.

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
24. I expect him to purge LGBT public servants
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 10:37 AM
Jun 2022

When he gets reelected, because of course he will be reelected, because most people moving here the past year (and it is a lot) are moving here because they love him.

And, he will be allowed to, because overturning Roe and Casey will lead to that. He will outlaw same sex marriage, first. I expect that this summer after teh SCOTUS Roe decision.

I am scared.

ancianita

(36,055 posts)
30. You need to give some sourcing for this. Some counterintel site. Because this is too serious a
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 10:56 AM
Jun 2022

charge to just float around here. Mass shootings are bad enough. Let's not add to our problem by dumping fear talk without facts to back them up.

Whaddaya got?

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
11. amazing. desantis was a proud dittohead, limbaugh was proud of him, he barely won and yet florida
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 09:47 AM
Jun 2022

dems continue to let 5 universities support 20 x-limbaugh stations without complaint - from fakenewsradio.org Florida 10, Florida St. 4 Miami 2, South Florida 2, Central Florida 2

and now the tampa bay rays are in a fight with him - someone tell them they could trash desantis good by pulling games of 4 RW radio stations that love desantis. he trashes their positions on guns and LGBTQ, and so do those 4 stations

common rays, start the exodus of pro and college teams from 100's of those stations and revive this democracy

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
26. The DeSantis-appointed BOG runs teh universities and colleges
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 10:38 AM
Jun 2022

They is very little autonomy here, and he plans to literally take all of it away when he is reelected. He has stated this.

You cannot blame the universities and colleges for this.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
46. basically those stations got desantis elected and they need those unis to help
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 01:59 PM
Jun 2022

with community vis and bring in advertisers - conversely, if they made moves to drop those stations they'd make major positive PR

those stations have been working for years to defund public ed!

the unis basically help the fossil fuel ind deny global warming - and floriduh is on the short list for sea level rise and intensifying storm damage.

yes we can blame the universities for not reassessing those radio associations after they were bought to sell kkk BS

those 87 universities need to reread their missions statements, and stop helping elect fascists like desantis

lastlib

(23,226 posts)
18. Little League Nixon........
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 10:25 AM
Jun 2022

except Nixon actually did a couple good things (OMG, did I actually say that??!?)

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
17. He is like ... Trump
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 10:07 AM
Jun 2022

He isn't a "celebrity" but he is more of an actual business man and not a moron.

But, he is just as mean spirited, and as you note, a wanna be dictator, but just a more competent person generally and as an elected official.

He won't beat Trump, because Trump has the mass appeal and his master skill is hitting at the lowest core of human beings, which sadly is the way to the hearts of most of our electorate at this point.

But, is something happens to Trump, he would be next in line now. You just can hear it when the Rs talk, they get and like what he is putting down.

Kid Berwyn

(14,904 posts)
29. Photographic analysis.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 10:50 AM
Jun 2022

Look at those faces, the eyes…the revulsion.



I think Ron DeSantis is NAZI scum

Remember, two words destroyed Jeb Bush: “Low Energy.”

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
32. He behaves like his idol, the orange shit pile....and his cult love him for it.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 11:13 AM
Jun 2022

This little dictator piece of shit is the perfect "mini-me" to the dotard. I'm always amazed at the swarm of grinning shit eaters that stand behind him and smile when he signs some fucking piece of toilet paper bill he rams through to demonstrate what a complete, incompetent asshole he can be. He's actually proud of it...and his cult wet their pants for him.

WTF is wrong with these people!

slater71

(1,153 posts)
35. De Santis will beat Trump.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 11:28 AM
Jun 2022

If he runs he will beat Trump. He will be the dictator and forever president of our country. What all his supporters fail to realize is that once he is elected, he will through away all his supporters because he will not need them anymore. I don`t think Putin cares one bit about the general people of Russia. De Santis will not care about the people here except the billionaires just like Putin. The man is dangerous just as Trump is. But the stupid people and the corruption by the Republicans at the polls will carry the day and deliver to our country its first fascist authoritarian dictator. And when he starts to do the things he did to the businesses and the companies in Florida, the idiots who voted for him will say "Duh, I did not see that coming." Too late now fools. Remember, DeSantis has never said one word against what Putin has done to Ukraine. He has named himself the commander of his 3.5 million dollar election force. He will not hesitate to take control of the national guard in the states and the militias will help him. We are headed to dire times in our country if DeSantis or Trump wins. Without a civil war, we will never see democracy again.

sop

(10,177 posts)
36. Other than being an aspiring authoritarian, DeSantis isn't anything like Castro, or Batista.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 11:37 AM
Jun 2022

DeSantis is more like Jair Bolsonaro, or even Rodrigo Duterte: violent, vengeful, rigid, moralistic, authoritarian, opportunistic, rightwing strongmen with thin skins, huge egos and a taste for wealth.

Anyone trying to make DeSantis out to be another Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez or Nicolás Maduro would be ridiculed by Floridians who lived under those regimes. And comparing him to Fulgencio Batista would likely gain him votes in South Florida.

Warpy

(111,256 posts)
37. Thanks for that edit. De Satan is just like Batista and for the same reason
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 11:44 AM
Jun 2022

Maher is fond of saying how well Florida did by staying open during Covid. Maher hasn't checked the per capita death and disability statistics, only the business ones. De Satan was a fucking disaster.

He's worse than TFG because he's just a hair smarter. I'm not sure he'll play well nation wide, he lacks TFG's oily charm and he's never been a "reality" TV star. However, he is still very dangerous, he's following the Batista playbook word for word.

DBoon

(22,366 posts)
53. BTW, here are the Covid stats for Forida
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 05:40 PM
Jun 2022

#7 most cases per capita in the country at 291,088/million population. By comparison, California ranks #35 with 244,455/million

#19 in deaths per capita in the country at 3,476/million population, By comparison, California ranks #39 with 2,322/million

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
39. DeSatan refused to divest state retirement system of Russian investments
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 12:47 PM
Jun 2022

This tells me he is owned by Putin and his cohorts. While other states dumped Russian holdings shortly after the attack on Ukraine, Ronnie decided to let the legislature decide what to do. And -- given his recent use (abuse?) of the veto pen on successfully-passed spending bills during their recent session -- what's to stop him from whipping his pen out again?

Charlie Crist should publicly throw this into his face every chance he gets. Even if he doesn't get the Democratic nomination...

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
42. He's going to keep on doing it.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 01:51 PM
Jun 2022

He will target cultural icons and it won’t matter if the strategy is opposite of conservatism or decency.

Everything will be a culture or social attack. They want to get all the norms and traditions out of the minds of people and replace those thoughts with what they want.

The end goal is to create a great fear and uncertainty and then be portrayed as another “Only I Can Save You” paternal figure.

The way to combat this full on assault is to counter with a strong candidate who is not timid at all will hit Republicans with an iron fist of truth.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
54. Our job as Americans is to stop these fascist.
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 07:13 AM
Jun 2022

The fascist politicians and their enablers the fascist police must be dealt with.

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