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Pendejo45 is FIRST! ... (Original Post) aggiesal Jun 2022 OP
TY.. Cha Jun 2022 #1
First president ever to be a traitor. MontanaMama Jun 2022 #2
In absolute terms, I do agree. Bu in my lifetime...... mjvpi Jun 2022 #7
My Turn to Speak: Iran, the Revolution and Secret Deals With the U.S. - By Abu Al-Hasan Bani Sadr Ford_Prefect Jun 2022 #17
Or when Reagan spoke with Ayatollah Khomeini ... aggiesal Jun 2022 #18
I agree mjvpi. Nixon was a traitor to his country, and he recruited other traitors to help him Martin68 Jun 2022 #24
Good examples Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #32
Well larwdem Jun 2022 #46
Reminds me of the Dulles brothers, United Fruit and Standard Oil. mjvpi Jun 2022 #49
Might not be the first pResident to go to Hell when he dies, though. calimary Jun 2022 #3
If there is a hell and if there are levels of it, trump will be in the sewer swimming in nixon's erronis Jun 2022 #5
Yeah, but rambler_american Jun 2022 #11
Reagan is there. So is Herbert Hoover. GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #21
Andrew Johnson, he stopped the Reconstruction plan to give land to Freedmen/former slaves Rhiannon12866 Jun 2022 #39
So why is his avatar on DU then? Polybius Jun 2022 #41
That's Andrew Jackson... Rhiannon12866 Jun 2022 #43
My bad! Polybius Jun 2022 #44
Here's Andrew Johnson, he looks pleasant. He was also the first to be impeached Rhiannon12866 Jun 2022 #47
Andrew Jackson had his pluses though Polybius Jun 2022 #40
Yeah, I was confusing him and Andrew Johnson. GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #42
Sadly, many were total racists against Native Americans Polybius Jun 2022 #45
You and me both, my friend. calimary Jun 2022 #38
Andrew Jackson and a few other racist fucks. Martin68 Jun 2022 #25
Buchanan is there for sure. raging moderate Jun 2022 #35
I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. I'll check it out. Martin68 Jun 2022 #36
And the base still thinks he can be prayed to for miracles PurgedVoter Jun 2022 #4
Understand one of them said that sarge43 Jun 2022 #8
One of the very few times in presidential history.... SergeStorms Jun 2022 #6
45* actually wasn't the first to be elected with foreign help..... don't forget Ronnie RayGuns - groundloop Jun 2022 #9
Shipping them arms came way later ... aggiesal Jun 2022 #22
literally the day of the inauguration, if I'm remembering correctly ProfessorPlum Jun 2022 #51
The Lord works in mysterious ways, I've heard. Nt Baked Potato Jun 2022 #10
Bankruptcies and Lawsuits moreland01 Jun 2022 #12
KNR and bookmarking. niyad Jun 2022 #13
Greatest stable genius ever. Bigly! IronLionZion Jun 2022 #14
Is that what Donald considers 'America First'? keithbvadu2 Jun 2022 #15
If he saw this birdographer Jun 2022 #16
Brilliant malaise Jun 2022 #19
1st President in history to publicly dance the double hand-job dance. GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #20
All I see, is tiny hands and a big ASS. Meadowoak Jun 2022 #30
First in the heart and mind of 74 million rubes. Period. czarjak Jun 2022 #23
Yeah. He's the chumpion. dchill Jun 2022 #26
Magic 8 Ball says: Mr. Ected Jun 2022 #27
+1000 If we're lucky FakeNoose Jun 2022 #55
First President Ever . . . peggysue2 Jun 2022 #28
Kickety Kickin' Faux pas Jun 2022 #29
K&R Thanks for posting. n/t TeamProg Jun 2022 #31
GOP Exceptionalism! n/t BlueGreenLady Jun 2022 #33
and yet..... IcyPeas Jun 2022 #34
It figures that it was Johnson soldierant Jun 2022 #37
Pink Floyd's larwdem Jun 2022 #48
And yet millions of Americans worship & adore him. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2022 #50
Not domestic terror... It was a fully-formed Coup Attempt JCMach1 Jun 2022 #52
He will only see "first" and get all excited nt TigressDem Jun 2022 #53
NOT the first to get elected with foreign help. Thunderbeast Jun 2022 #54
First to mass murder with malice aforethought Meowmee Jun 2022 #56
Reagan ignored AIDS as well ... aggiesal Jun 2022 #57
Yes he is guilty too Meowmee Jun 2022 #59
Don't Forget Stormy Sane1 Jun 2022 #58

mjvpi

(1,931 posts)
7. In absolute terms, I do agree. Bu in my lifetime......
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 04:30 PM
Jun 2022

Nixon conspired with the North Vietnam to not complete a peace plan with Johnson in order to win an election. I’d agree with Johnson in a White House taped phone call where he called that treason.

Iran contra. Arms for hostages. Making sure that Carter didn’t get the release before the elections.
While not proved in a US court, the political head of Iran in his book "My Time To Talk&quot might have mis remembered the title) said that this was true.

Both were conspiracies to undermine elections. I’d say both of those were treasonous acts. Both were carried out by deviously smarter groups of people than the 45 crew.

Ford_Prefect

(8,610 posts)
17. My Turn to Speak: Iran, the Revolution and Secret Deals With the U.S. - By Abu Al-Hasan Bani Sadr
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 05:07 PM
Jun 2022
From Library Journal

Bani-Sadr, who was president of Iran after the overthrow of the Shah and a close advisor to the Ayatollah Khomeini, reveals a great deal regarding behind-the-scenes U.S. involvement in Iranian politics. Now living in exile in Paris, he breaks his long-held silence to expose the dealings of three U.S. presidents with the Iranians as well as to describe the duplicity of Khomeini, who the author argues betrayed the spirit of the revolution. Bani-Sadr claims that the Reagan election team conspired with the Iranians to withhold the release of the hostages until after the election, thus permitting Reagan to claim the credit. He also makes some interesting comments about the involvement of Reagan and Bush in the Iran-contra arms scandal. This is a tale that is absolutely essential to read in order to appreciate contemporary Iranian politics and the 1979-80 revolution. For a wide audience.
- Sanford R. Silverburg, Catawba Coll., Salisbury, N.C.
Copyright 1991 Reed Business Information, Inc.


https://www.amazon.com/My-Turn-Speak-Revolution-Secret/dp/0080405630

aggiesal

(10,801 posts)
18. Or when Reagan spoke with Ayatollah Khomeini ...
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 05:08 PM
Jun 2022

to convince him from releasing the Embassy Hostages until after the election,
to keep Carter from looking good.

Iran Contra was selling weapons to Iran so that Hezbollah (ties with Iran), would release hostages.
Then they diverted some of the money from the sale of the weapons to the Contras in Nicaragua.

Both were Reagan.
Then Reagan gave that stupid speech about "... in my heart I wasn't exchanging arms for hostages ..."
and the people bought it.

Reagan had more people indicted from his administration, until Pendejo45 came along.

Martin68

(27,741 posts)
24. I agree mjvpi. Nixon was a traitor to his country, and he recruited other traitors to help him
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 05:28 PM
Jun 2022

betray his country. Trump makes Nixon look like an amateur in some respects, but that does not lessen the severity of Tricky Dick's crimes.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
32. Good examples
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 06:21 PM
Jun 2022

BTW the name of the book by the ousted Iranian president Banisadr is My Turn to Speak: Iran, the Revolution and Secret Deals with the U.S. Washington.

I remember that my two closest friends in college, who were on their way to Lebanon to work as photojournalists/war-correspondents right after graduating scored their first scoop by getting an interview with Banisadr in Paris shortly after he was forced out by Khomeini.

They had the unlikeliest connection to Banisadr thought the Persian owners of Bonzo Burger in Berkeley, where they often ate. Life is funny sometimes.

mjvpi

(1,931 posts)
49. Reminds me of the Dulles brothers, United Fruit and Standard Oil.
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 01:12 AM
Jun 2022

Except now it’s our own country.

calimary

(90,010 posts)
3. Might not be the first pResident to go to Hell when he dies, though.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 04:01 PM
Jun 2022

Nixon may have beaten him to it.

erronis

(23,869 posts)
5. If there is a hell and if there are levels of it, trump will be in the sewer swimming in nixon's
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 04:13 PM
Jun 2022

and stalin's and putin's turds.

Wish this could be televised.

GoCubsGo

(34,909 posts)
21. Reagan is there. So is Herbert Hoover.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 05:13 PM
Jun 2022

Also Andrew Jackson, Woodrow Wilson, Warren G. Harding, Bush, Sr., who is saving a seat for Junior...

Rhiannon12866

(255,525 posts)
39. Andrew Johnson, he stopped the Reconstruction plan to give land to Freedmen/former slaves
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 11:29 PM
Jun 2022

He returned much of this land intended for Freedmen to the defeated Southern owners so they would "owe" him. And this one action halted the effort to integrate Freedmen into American society - resulting in repercussions we're still seeing even today, especially in the South.

Polybius

(21,900 posts)
41. So why is his avatar on DU then?
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 11:39 PM
Jun 2022

If he was so bad, wouldn't the Admins remove it from the list of choices? Just click My Profile, then Politicians. 5th row down, second from the right.

Rhiannon12866

(255,525 posts)
47. Here's Andrew Johnson, he looks pleasant. He was also the first to be impeached
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 12:00 AM
Jun 2022

I learned about his nefarious post Civil War activities watching "Reconstruction" on PBS.



GoCubsGo

(34,909 posts)
42. Yeah, I was confusing him and Andrew Johnson.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 11:43 PM
Jun 2022

But, Jackson had that pesky "Indian removal" thing, which is enough to earn a spot beside the rest of them, along with his attitudes toward blacks and slavery.

Polybius

(21,900 posts)
45. Sadly, many were total racists against Native Americans
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 11:53 PM
Jun 2022

Even Lincoln. He signed the biggest mass hanging in US history. All were NA.

raging moderate

(4,624 posts)
35. Buchanan is there for sure.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 09:27 PM
Jun 2022

He spent part of his presidency secretly ordering preparations that aided the Confederacy at the start the Civil War.

PurgedVoter

(2,715 posts)
4. And the base still thinks he can be prayed to for miracles
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 04:11 PM
Jun 2022

Wow we have some dumb in our country

sarge43

(29,173 posts)
8. Understand one of them said that
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 04:32 PM
Jun 2022

he was convinced the Slob Father would win the 2024 election and then be the first POTUS to win three consecutive terms.

Don't ever challenge them by asking, "Can you possibly be dumber?!"

SergeStorms

(20,584 posts)
6. One of the very few times in presidential history....
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 04:26 PM
Jun 2022

when being first equates to being dead, freaking last in presidential acuity and honesty.

Congratulations, shithead.

groundloop

(13,845 posts)
9. 45* actually wasn't the first to be elected with foreign help..... don't forget Ronnie RayGuns -
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 04:35 PM
Jun 2022


who secretly made a deal with the Iranians holding American hostages to keep them captive until after the election in exchange for shipping them arms.

aggiesal

(10,801 posts)
22. Shipping them arms came way later ...
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 05:16 PM
Jun 2022

he had them hold the hostages until after the election so that Carter would get any credit,
and he could claim credit.
The Iran-Contra scandal didn't break until 1986.

ProfessorPlum

(11,461 posts)
51. literally the day of the inauguration, if I'm remembering correctly
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 07:44 AM
Jun 2022

It's like they didn't even want people not to know the whole thing was rigged.

moreland01

(870 posts)
12. Bankruptcies and Lawsuits
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 04:41 PM
Jun 2022

I'm sure he's the first (fake) president to be sued hundreds of times and to file for bankruptcy multiple times.

GoCubsGo

(34,909 posts)
20. 1st President in history to publicly dance the double hand-job dance.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 05:10 PM
Jun 2022

On multiple occasions. And, also the 1st leader of ANY country in the history of ever to do that.

peggysue2

(12,531 posts)
28. First President Ever . . .
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 05:37 PM
Jun 2022

To clearly pursue an anti-democratic, UnAmerican agenda and brag about it.

May he rot in Hell!

JCMach1

(29,201 posts)
52. Not domestic terror... It was a fully-formed Coup Attempt
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 08:16 AM
Jun 2022

Against democracy.

Just fortunately with 45's signature incompetence.

Thunderbeast

(3,818 posts)
54. NOT the first to get elected with foreign help.
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 10:45 AM
Jun 2022

Ho Chi Minh cut a pre-election deal with Nixon to delay peace talks in Vietnam. Nixon promised him a "better deal" if he would keep the war going (and keep killing Americans and ARVN forces) until after the elections.

Ronald Reagan cut a deal with Iran to hold American hostages until after the 1980 elections. He traded arms in the deal, illegally sending proceeds to the Nicaraguan Contras against specific congressional prohibitions.

Putin, of course, was instrumental in installing his agent/puppet in the White House in the most egregious example of foreign interference.

It is "normal political discord" for the GOP.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
56. First to mass murder with malice aforethought
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 10:58 AM
Jun 2022

way over 1 mil of his own citizens. And he is walking scot free and will get off scot-free. But he cannot escape death and let it come to him sooner than later.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
59. Yes he is guilty too
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 09:03 PM
Jun 2022

I believe it was estimated at 89,000 during his presidency and over 300,000 by the time the epidemic had reached its peak. But we may never know the true numbers just as we will not know them for covid either.

Sane1

(214 posts)
58. Don't Forget Stormy
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 01:14 PM
Jun 2022

First president in history to lie about banging a Porn Star and get caught paying her off, then have Evangelical Republicans totally ignore it.

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