Proud Boys Charged with Sedition in Capitol Attack

[iemanja]

Enrique Tarrio, the former chairman of the Proud Boys, and four other members of the far-right group were indicted on Monday for seditious conspiracy in connection with the storming of the Capitol last January, the most serious crime to be charged in the Justice Department’s sprawling investigation of the assault.

The sedition charges against Mr. Tarrio and his co-defendants — Joseph Biggs, Ethan Nordean, Zachary Rehl and Dominic Pezzola — came in an amended indictment that was unsealed in Federal District Court in Washington. The men had already been charged in an earlier indictment filed in March with conspiring to obstruct the certification of the 2020 presidential election, which took place during a joint session of Congress on Jan. 6, 2021.

It was not immediately clear what evidence led to the new charges against the members of the Proud Boys, who were central in the effort to storm the Capitol and help forestall President Donald J. Trump’s defeat.

Another Proud Boy lieutenant originally charged with the men, Charles Donohoe, pleaded guilty in April and is cooperating with the government’s inquiry into the group. Around the time of Mr. Tarrio’s arrest this spring, federal investigators searched the homes — and seized the phones — of three other high-ranking Proud Boys identified as unindicted co-conspirators in the case, but none of them have been publicly charged.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/proud-boys-charged-with-sedition-in-capitol-attack/ar-AAY9u69?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=ef5cffcd4eb6439a97eb16cc1bc15381

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[Lovie777]

1. Get the top insurrectionists . . . .

[getagrip_already]

2. Notice the pattern......

These fools aren't former tfg admin officials or congress critters.

They are just outsiders, so it's ok to prosecute them.

But don't expect any insiders to be charged.

[EarlG]

3. We'll see...

The pattern so far has been to charge foot soldiers with seditious conspiracy:

January 2022: Oath Keepers leader arrested, charged with seditious conspiracy for Jan. 6 riot

And the DoJ is getting convictions:

April 2022: A second Oath Keeper pleaded guilty to seditious conspiracy in the Jan. 6 riot

If there was a conspiracy going on, and people are now pleading guilty and getting convicted for it, then we may soon find out if there are other people involved, higher up the chain. I suspect we will learn a lot more this week...

[getagrip_already]

5. Foot soldiers aren't insiders.....

We will learn a lot from the 1/6 committee, but not from doj.

While we typically only hear from the doj through indictments, we also see what they are doing with subpoenas and witness interviews.

They haven't been lifting a finger to talk to the people the house has Interviewed.

They haven't been subpoena'ing banks, or law firms, or admin officials.

So what could they possibly bring before a grand jury?

They aren't investigating, let alone building a case.

The sun is setting on the doj doing anything. I doubt the pressure from the hearings will pressure them. They don't care about pressure.

[fightforfreedom]

8. You have no idea what the DOJ is investigating.

I am sure Garland/DOJ have looked at the attempted over throw of our Government by Trump and his inner circle and said, no crimes here, nothing happened. Time to move on.

[getagrip_already]

11. We actually do.....

The doj doesn't leak often, but they do issue subpoenas that get challenged in court, they do interview witnesses who blab on media. We hear about that.

Crickets.

An investigation as broad as this one would be would stick out like a sore thumb. There would be no way to keep it a secret. We could actually see a lot of what Mueller was doing, we just didn't know details. But we could see subpoenas. People talked about appearing before grand juries. All kinds of information was In public filings.

Crickets.

The doj is not going above those who marched on the capitol.

They are not investigating any crimes committed during tfg's reign of terror.

You say it sarcastically, but that is literally what they done from the inauguration to the looting of the wh at the end of his term.

Those documents? Crickets.

And then there is gaetz.

[fightforfreedom]

6. You start from the bottom up.

Everyone knows that.

[getagrip_already]

9. But you don't stop before the top like doj is doing.......

They can't bring charges without investigating, and they arent.

[fightforfreedom]

12. They are investigating the fake electors.

That goes right to the inner circle. that leads right to Jan 6th. Saying they are not investigating is flat out wrong.

[Jilly_in_VA]

4. At least someone has been!

But I have a serious question for some of you....who here is old enough to remember how long the whole Watergate business actually TOOK? And remember, we didn't have all the obstructionists in Congress that we do now. We had real patriots on both sides.

[getagrip_already]

7. Big differences there...

Yes, I'm old enough to remember it.

But realize that ford had years to obstruct and slow down investigations.

Still, the doj began investigating and, calling witnesses to testify, and they issued a mountain of subpoenas.

NONE of that is happening to any insider by the doj. Outsiders who participated on Jan 6, sure. But not insiders.

Only the Jan 6 committee is doing that. And they have zero power to prosecute.

[onethatcares]

13. I was under the impression that indictments were

what flipped Haldeman, Eichman, Martha Dean and the other toadies. (sorry, my memory isn't what it used to be but Ford issued a pardon, one that the likes of which hadn't been issued before. Ford gave a pardon to one of the worst crooks our government almost gave in to, he didn't block any investigations that I remember him being a part or subject of.

Please enlighten me, I'm serious I like to learn. Thanks.

[getagrip_already]

14. Listen to Maddow's the bag men series....

While it focuses on Agnew, there is a lot in there on other actors, and how deeply the ag was in it obstructing justice. Mitchell was a piece of work, but he didn't act alone.

Still, the doj made some pretty early moves. There was significan action long before the first conviction.

We aren't seeing that now for anyone in the inner circle. Outsiders, sure. But not the core team.

[onethatcares]

16. cycles and attention spans

Sorry about messing up with Mitchell..my heart was in the right place though.

The whole thing unraveled with the lowest of the low.......3d rate burglars and Gordon Liddy. Then the real journalists took over with that story.

Agnew had his own batch of soup

cycles and attention spans is what America deals with now, 24 hour news cycle and too much new along with home schooling have beat this country to almost death from that date.

[Chainfire]

10. Well, it is certainly good news to find out that DOJ is aware of that statute.