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gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 04:37 PM Jun 2022

Manchin wants to raise age to 21 for gun purchases, doesn't see need for AR-15s

Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia voiced his support Monday for raising the age to 21 for purchasing semi-automatic weapons and questioned why individuals need to own high-powered AR-15-style weapons, putting him at odds with Republicans who are resisting imposing any restrictions on access to firearms.

"I never thought I had a need for that type of a high-capacity automatic weapon," Manchin told CNN on Monday. "I like to shoot, I like to go out and hunt. I like to go out sports shooting. I do all of that. But I've never felt I needed something of that magnitude."
Manchin also said he "wouldn't have a problem on looking at" backing a ban on so-called assault weapons -- a proposal pushed by the White House and Democratic leaders, but that stands no chance of winning the needed 60-votes in the Senate.
"It depends on what they, how they would approach it," Manchin said. "I'm open to anything that makes gun sense."

The comments from the Senate's most conservative Democrat -- who hails from a state with a strong gun culture -- show growing Democratic support for imposing tough new gun laws as senators try to see whether there can be any compromise with Republicans to deal with episodes of gun violence ravaging communities nationwide. The position underscores how the two sides still have a number of major disagreements to resolve as they race to cut a deal this week amid public outcry over mass shootings nationwide.
Manchin is part of a small bipartisan group of Senate negotiators trying to finalize a deal on guns. The negotiators are not discussing some of President Joe Biden's demands such as renewing the expired assault weapons ban, but they are looking at a handful of changes, including incentivizing states to enact red flag laws, which allow guns to be temporarily taken away from individuals deemed a danger to themselves or others, expand background checks on gun purchases, bolster the mental health care system and beef up school security. There is also discussion about new regulations on gun trafficking between states and potential new legislation on storing weapons safely at gun owners' residences.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/06/politics/manchin-gun-purchase-age-ar15s/index.html

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Manchin wants to raise age to 21 for gun purchases, doesn't see need for AR-15s (Original Post) gldstwmn Jun 2022 OP
Pick me up off the floor Jilly_in_VA Jun 2022 #1
What he doesn't say is if he would support a filibuster to make sure it passes nt ripcord Jun 2022 #3
Yeah, talk is cheap FoxNewsSucks Jun 2022 #19
I had the same reaction. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #10
They better call a multi-person stretcher. I'm down there with ya! NCLefty Jun 2022 #20
Not sure Rebl2 Jun 2022 #2
Let's see what he says tomorrow. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #4
The 9th Circuit just tossed CA's Age 21 Law... WarGamer Jun 2022 #5
Is he willing to end the filibuster? DetroitLegalBeagle Jun 2022 #6
Exactly. Talk is cheap Raven123 Jun 2022 #7
Do you believe the Republicans will never again have a Senate majority? Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #11
On the contrary DetroitLegalBeagle Jun 2022 #12
But would you have him nuke the filibuster knowing the likelihood Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #14
If the gun bill could be passed via budget reconciliation... texasfiddler Jun 2022 #8
Praise where praise is due. Now act, Senator Manchin. nt Hekate Jun 2022 #9
Pssst: he's a ratfucking backstabber. Voltaire2 Jun 2022 #13
A pig just flew past my window Deminpenn Jun 2022 #15
😂 🤣 😂 a kennedy Jun 2022 #16
Why is it always they with this guy. kacekwl Jun 2022 #17
He didn't say he'd support it. Doremus Jun 2022 #18
K&R Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2022 #21

WarGamer

(12,343 posts)
5. The 9th Circuit just tossed CA's Age 21 Law...
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 04:51 PM
Jun 2022

Doesn't anyone think about the Courts when "crafting" legislation?

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/11/1098432386/california-21-gun-sales-ban-unconstitutional-court-says

A U.S. appeals court ruled Wednesday that California's ban on the sale of semiautomatic weapons to adults under 21 is unconstitutional.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,914 posts)
12. On the contrary
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 06:50 PM
Jun 2022

I think the gop will have a higher likelihood of controlling the Senate then we do. They have the geographic advantage. But my point still stands, unless Manchin is willing to nuke the filibuster over this, then this is just his usual bluster. He knows it has zero chance to get 10 Republicans on board.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
14. But would you have him nuke the filibuster knowing the likelihood
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 07:00 PM
Jun 2022

of eventual GOP control and what they could do if unrestrained? Scares the hell out of me, frankly.

If anyone is likely to have influence with the less-insane Republicans it is probably Manchin.

I'm glad he's speaking up.

texasfiddler

(1,989 posts)
8. If the gun bill could be passed via budget reconciliation...
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 05:46 PM
Jun 2022

He would be saying the opposite. The NRA knows this. Susan Collins plays this “good cop” role periodically.

kacekwl

(7,013 posts)
17. Why is it always they with this guy.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 08:38 PM
Jun 2022

It depends on how they would approach it. How would you approach it Joe. Come on you can come up with something.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
18. He didn't say he'd support it.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 08:42 PM
Jun 2022

He said he "wouldn't have a problem on looking at" a proposal.

No doubt there will be something in it he doesn't like.

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