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Ohio Joe

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Mon Jun 6, 2022, 09:56 PM Jun 2022

Building a case that gets convictions - Tarrio and Donohoe, and where that leads

OK... Lets start with Charles Donohoe. He is/was the odd man out when it came to flipping. The most recent (that we know about) and... Well, kind of a weird one. He is the only one that was not charged with Seditious Conspiracy who the DOJ found worthy of letting flip. So while I felt that he must have something worthwhile, no one knew what it was. The guy was the NC leader of the PB's but still was only facing 6 years. He could have pled guilty and probably been released in about a year... I still don't know why he chose to go for flipping and turning over what he had but now we know a part of what he has to offer.... And why DOJ took it.

Of course... We go to the wonderful emptywheel:

DOJ just charged the Proud Boy leaders with seditious conspiracy. There are two main differences from the earlier indictment adding Enrique Tarrio to the conspiracy (a charge of 18 USC 372 was also added).

First, Charles Donohoe is no longer referred to as a co-conspirator. He is described as a cooperator.

Charles Donohoe is a 34-year-old resident of Kenersville, North Carolina. On January 6, 2021, Donohoe was the president of his local chapter of the Proud Boys.

Second, the indictment added this exchange.

At 7:39 pm, PERSON-1 sent two text messages to TARRIO that read, “Brother. ‘You know we made this happen,” and “I’m so proud of my country today.” TARRIO responded, “I know” At 7:44 pm. the conversation continued, with PERSON-1 texting, “1776 motherfuckers.” TARRIO responded, “The Winter Palace.” PERSON-1 texted, “Dude. Did we just influence history?” TARRIO responded, “Let’s first see how this plays out.” PERSON-1 stated, “They HAVE to certify today! Or it’s invalid.” These messages were exchanged before the Senate returned to its chamber at approximately 8:00 p.m. to resume certifying the Electoral College vote.

https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/06/06/quoting-enrique-tarrio-invoking-the-winter-palace-doj-charges-the-proud-boys-with-sedition/

Bang.

This puts the nail in for seditious conspiracy... And since it is included in the indictment, it is just enough of a taste to get the arrest... There is much more tasty things to come from this and I can't wait to see what they are.

Some speculation now... My guess is that DOJ has been very busy running down the money (We are getting hints the public hearings will go into what the committee has) as well as everything they found on Tarrio's phone and computer (they finally got into them back in Feb) and that they may offer either the PG or OK leaders a chance to flip but... I also expect that will be a limited time offer as they really may not be needed. The other flippers currently testifying before a Grand Jury whose target is currently unknown come up for sentencing in Aug and Sept. One of two things will happen then... Either the DOJ needs more time before allowing them to get sentenced (still running down and verifying everything they have) or they will be sentenced at the same time new indictments come out. I fully expect Roger Stone will be indicted through all of this though... Lets face it, he is a dick and has been for decades, if DOJ has any way of nailing him to the wall like they did Navarro... They will. And I will celebrate that fucker dying in jail. I also expect Meadows... Who was communication central for TFG crime family, is also going to be nailed then. Meadows is being smart enough to keep his mouth shut and keep himself out of the limelight but handed over a treasure trove of documents before going to ground. I think once he sees that he is going to die in jail, he will hand over everything to not do so.

We shall see.

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Building a case that gets convictions - Tarrio and Donohoe, and where that leads (Original Post) Ohio Joe Jun 2022 OP
"Dude. Did we just influence history?" NCLefty Jun 2022 #1
Kick for the morning crowd Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #2
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