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ripcord

(5,372 posts)
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 01:24 PM Jun 2022

Why are people dragging Kate Middleton for Louis behavior during the jubilee?

What I saw was a normal just turned 4 year old being a kid. 4 year olds are not known for sitting quietly and behaving for any period of time but I have heard people saying his behavior shows he will grow into a horrible person. Kate dealt with the problem firmly but quietly, at least she didn't hand him a bag of crackers or her phone which is what many people consider to be parenting these days.

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Why are people dragging Kate Middleton for Louis behavior during the jubilee? (Original Post) ripcord Jun 2022 OP
I haven't dragged her JustAnotherGen Jun 2022 #1
He is 4. There is a whole lot of excitement going on around him. Srkdqltr Jun 2022 #2
I wonder where he picked up thumbing his nose from ? CentralMass Jun 2022 #3
Probably from his paternal great grandmother. mobeau69 Jun 2022 #6
I was thinking... 2naSalit Jun 2022 #17
Yeah, my boys NEVER thumbed their noses or Quakerfriend Jun 2022 #8
He's probably figured out they behave one way in public imavoter Jun 2022 #9
I know. I've never had that happen. And that thumbing-nose thing-- Wingus Dingus Jun 2022 #13
Actually it is common among British school children ripcord Jun 2022 #23
my guess. Harry Lochloosa Jun 2022 #14
Yeah, because he's been hanging around phylny Jun 2022 #24
That wasn't appropriate behavior for a child of any age. Wingus Dingus Jun 2022 #11
I try to imagine my dad's reaction Skittles Jun 2022 #48
LOL, if I ever covered my mom's mouth to get her to stop talking... Wingus Dingus Jun 2022 #54
I saw a toddler bite his mum's calf trying to get her attention while she was paying a cashier Skittles Jun 2022 #57
Exactly. Sogo Jun 2022 #52
4 year olds do stuff like that. Srkdqltr Jun 2022 #4
Really? MontanaMama Jun 2022 #5
You should have seen me when the fan cam was on me at a Dodger game ripcord Jun 2022 #7
I've been seeing the opposite. Tabliod press 🙄 Budi Jun 2022 #10
Chris Evans is correct here mcar Jun 2022 #20
i wouldn't hang out with people whose main concern is how a 4 year old acts. Kaleva Jun 2022 #12
Because our society is full of cranks and critics who think the world needs to know their opinions. GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #15
Saw a meme about boomer... OneGrassRoot Jun 2022 #16
+1 2naSalit Jun 2022 #18
It's discouraging to see people on Twitter mcar Jun 2022 #19
Some people just hate the royals. beaglelover Jun 2022 #21
Because the Heard-Depp trial is over and some people need a new trivial matter to obsess over onenote Jun 2022 #22
The Daily Mail started it canetoad Jun 2022 #25
Exactly. The British tabloid media is horrible. NT CottonBear Jun 2022 #26
That's why they call it Trailrider1951 Jun 2022 #30
+1 treestar Jun 2022 #38
Yes and of course pinkstarburst Jun 2022 #27
Their kids are raised by nannies... HipChick Jun 2022 #28
Actually Kate and William both are very hands on parents nt ripcord Jun 2022 #29
You must live in their household HipChick Jun 2022 #31
And what makes your nanny comment any different? ripcord Jun 2022 #32
Another Andrew in the making. Texaswitchy Jun 2022 #33
That kid looked psycho. I've never seen a 4 year old behave that way. Coventina Jun 2022 #34
Being youngest maybe he looks for attention. Texaswitchy Jun 2022 #35
Agree, he needed a time out. Instead, he was rewarded for his behavior. n/t Coventina Jun 2022 #36
I was never allowed to behave like that Skittles Jun 2022 #47
Maybe no royal kid did that before treestar Jun 2022 #37
Old school Mothers did not put up with kids misbehaving. Texaswitchy Jun 2022 #39
My parents say the same thing kcr Jun 2022 #40
That ok when kids two and three years old. Texaswitchy Jun 2022 #41
Well, how many 4 yr olds BuddhaGirl Jun 2022 #42
I did. Texaswitchy Jun 2022 #43
Ok, you win I guess? BuddhaGirl Jun 2022 #44
I was just raised to behave myself. Texaswitchy Jun 2022 #45
Different strokes and times change BuddhaGirl Jun 2022 #49
Kids are same. Texaswitchy Jun 2022 #50
Doesn't sound very fun :-( BuddhaGirl Jun 2022 #51
My Mother stayed home until I was in Jr. High. Texaswitchy Jun 2022 #53
Back in your and my day treestar Jun 2022 #58
You do realize he's only 4? kcr Jun 2022 #59
Kate's fan's were saying Archie would be a brat before he was even born. BlueLucy Jun 2022 #46
Becsuse that's what Social media does JI7 Jun 2022 #55
Which people would those be? brooklynite Jun 2022 #56

JustAnotherGen

(31,818 posts)
1. I haven't dragged her
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 01:26 PM
Jun 2022

I've seen what you are talking about though.

Most of those in my private twitter groups - black women - just know that if it were Meghan - she would be eviscerated by the salty island, the salty island press, and VP Harris haters in America.

I haven't seen either of my two groups post it in public twitter though . . .

Srkdqltr

(6,276 posts)
2. He is 4. There is a whole lot of excitement going on around him.
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 01:28 PM
Jun 2022

He is acting appropriately for a 4 year old. Geezzz

Quakerfriend

(5,450 posts)
8. Yeah, my boys NEVER thumbed their noses or
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 01:48 PM
Jun 2022

put their hand over my mouth!

I don’t consider that ‘normal’ behavior from a four year old.

imavoter

(646 posts)
9. He's probably figured out they behave one way in public
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 01:55 PM
Jun 2022

and another in private.
Likely knows she wouldn't discipline him publicly,
and he's not old enough yet to care what people think.

One thing too, people don't realize
is he's Harry in 30 years.

Once his brother and sister have heirs,
he'll be off the hook and won't be needed.

He's cute as hell, though.

Wingus Dingus

(8,052 posts)
13. I know. I've never had that happen. And that thumbing-nose thing--
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 02:22 PM
Jun 2022

my boys wouldn't have dared. Baffled as to why anyone would accept that level of disrespect toward an adult or parent and call it "normal".

Wingus Dingus

(8,052 posts)
11. That wasn't appropriate behavior for a child of any age.
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 02:19 PM
Jun 2022

Sorry, it's just not. It was much more disrespectful than mere fidgeting, whining, chattering, ants-in-the-pants, etc. My boys when they were little were not angels, and not always respectful, but they never did shit like that to me.

Skittles

(153,159 posts)
57. I saw a toddler bite his mum's calf trying to get her attention while she was paying a cashier
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 01:33 AM
Jun 2022

no doubt she will one day be wondering how her teenager got so out of control

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
52. Exactly.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 10:27 PM
Jun 2022

I wonder if those who are dismissing it as typical 4-year-old behavior actually saw the clip of how he was disrespecting her. She was in a very awkward situation to actually discipline him strongly, but I was shocked at his behavior and personally would never have put up with it. She needed to take the little prince by the hand and firmly escort him to a more private place where she could lay down the law, preferably with William there, also.

His behavior was BEYOND brattishness!

MontanaMama

(23,313 posts)
5. Really?
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 01:33 PM
Jun 2022

Louis is a little kid...his behavior was entirely normal and the best part of the jubilee if you ask me. I'm 57 years old and if you ask my husband and son...they will tell you I have a hard time sitting still. I try not to make faces, however.

mcar

(42,307 posts)
20. Chris Evans is correct here
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 04:53 PM
Jun 2022

but he and a lot of his followers are the ones dragging little Louis (and his mother).

Criticize the parents all you want but this is a little kid.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
15. Because our society is full of cranks and critics who think the world needs to know their opinions.
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 02:36 PM
Jun 2022

Everyone is an expert in their own minds, and social media gives them a platform to disseminate their "expertise," whether the world wants to hear it, or not. That being said, the guest of honor seem to be enjoying watching the 4-year-old being a 4-year-old, and that's all that really matters here. I suspect that some of the critics are just bent out of shape that he was stealing attention away from her on her big day. Probably a bit of rod-up-the-assery involved.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
16. Saw a meme about boomer...
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 02:39 PM
Jun 2022

parents always saying how lazy younger parents are these days, giving the kids the phone, but that boomer parents would just tell kids to go outside and not come back til dark.

True! 😂 So, generational parenting criticism doesn’t always go well.

2naSalit

(86,579 posts)
18. +1
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 04:50 PM
Jun 2022

I thought he made the whole boring event far more entertaining.

He wasn't spitting, throwing shit, yelling or doing any number of actually offensive things.

mcar

(42,307 posts)
19. It's discouraging to see people on Twitter
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 04:51 PM
Jun 2022

stating that the 4 year old should have been beaten for his behavior.

I get that people hate the monarchy, and that there are lots of feelings about how Meghan Markle was treated, but this is a 4 year old child who was being asked to sit still for a long stretch.

There are, BTW, a lot of other photos of him at that event where he is kissing his mother and sitting on his grandfather's lap.

People are focusing on a short stretch of misbehavior where his mother was pretty helpless to do anything with cameras running.

Me, I'd have brought a toy or book and let him play for some of it.

I do agree, though, with the argument that had this been Harry and Meghan's son Archie, the response would have been much more negative.

pinkstarburst

(1,327 posts)
27. Yes and of course
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 08:41 PM
Jun 2022

it should also be noted they're all attacking Kate, and no one has a thing to say about William, because everyone knows when a child is angelic, it's to the credit of both parents, but when a child is having a tantrum, blame the mother.

ripcord

(5,372 posts)
32. And what makes your nanny comment any different?
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 12:22 PM
Jun 2022

Have any other juicy insider palace gossip to share?

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
33. Another Andrew in the making.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:12 PM
Jun 2022

I went with my parents everywhere as a child.

I was the youngest.

I was expected to behave myself.

My parents were Precinct Judges, they ran the elections.

I was there all day and it was a long day.

The kid is a brat raised by nannies.

I would never have touched my mother like that.

Or raised my voice.

Old school Mother.

Coventina

(27,115 posts)
34. That kid looked psycho. I've never seen a 4 year old behave that way.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:15 PM
Jun 2022

I don't necessarily blame Kate, but that kid looks like he's got a screw loose.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
35. Being youngest maybe he looks for attention.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:35 PM
Jun 2022

That day was for the Queen.

He should have been removed and given to nanny.

That was disrespectful to the Queen.
.

Skittles

(153,159 posts)
47. I was never allowed to behave like that
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 08:06 PM
Jun 2022

the LOOK alone was enough to modify behavior

one of my brothers was eleven months older than me, and one is eleven months younger.....my first trip to England as a USAF brat, we were ages 2, 3, and 4......we were well-behaved for the entire flight.....my mum said she was so proud of all the compliments received from crew and other passengers

treestar

(82,383 posts)
37. Maybe no royal kid did that before
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:50 PM
Jun 2022

Which could be generational too. We always hear from older people about these kids today. Just another example.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
39. Old school Mothers did not put up with kids misbehaving.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:59 PM
Jun 2022

My mother had older kids in school already when I was born.

My mother had the look.

That was enough for me.

My mother did not give idle threats.

I only had two spankings.

I went everywhere my parents and knew how to behave.




kcr

(15,315 posts)
40. My parents say the same thing
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 02:04 PM
Jun 2022

But I can remember some epic tantrums my little sister threw in public. I can recall how mortified they were, so I'm sure those memories got buried.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
41. That ok when kids two and three years old.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 02:26 PM
Jun 2022

By four they need to start learning some control.

Pre school starts then.

BuddhaGirl

(3,605 posts)
42. Well, how many 4 yr olds
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 02:41 PM
Jun 2022

experience the level of stimulation and excitement over the course of a few days? I doubt your did

All this tut-tutting over Louis' behavior is hilarious! He's just a little kid, being a little kid

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
43. I did.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 02:52 PM
Jun 2022

I went everywhere with my parents.

Meetings, conventions, parties.

My Father was really in Democratic politics.

I went to upscale dinners at Rice Hotel in Houston.

The difference lies with parents.

Some think it is cute , some don't.

My two grandchildren knew better.

Both their mother and I had the look.

The kid does this at home and gets away with it.

It was disrespectful to the Queen.

He should have been left at home.

A four he needs to learn to start controlling himself.

Surely he going to school soon.

Nobody likes a brat.





BuddhaGirl

(3,605 posts)
44. Ok, you win I guess?
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 06:07 PM
Jun 2022

Maybe you were *that* exceptional 4 yr old?

Louis seems like a normal kid, excited by all the ceremonial stuff, the music, etc. Maybe he's just irrepressible? Who knows. It's not worth criticism, imo.

And only the Queen herself can say if his behavior was disrespectful.

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
45. I was just raised to behave myself.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 07:50 PM
Jun 2022

Four years old is preschool.

Old school Mothers were tough.

One look from my Mother was enough.

I was not the only child at these events either.

We were raised different back then.

I had a little school book bag I would take with coloring books and activity books.

I kept myself entertained.

It wasn't that hard.







BuddhaGirl

(3,605 posts)
49. Different strokes and times change
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 09:07 PM
Jun 2022

He's not in preschool when he's out appearing at functions with his parents. Your mother wasn't under the pressure of being constantly filmed and being "on" at events like Kate and William are, so apples to oranges.

Kate and William's kids look happy and healthy, relaxed and normal. Kate's doing just fine.

All this criticism from folks who think they know better is just silly. Relax!

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
50. Kids are same.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 09:45 PM
Jun 2022

They get away with what they can.

It is up the parents to set limits so the kids can learn control.

The kid will be going to pre school soon.

I bet he doesn't he show up at any other events until he is older.

My were parents under pressure.

We would be sitting at one major tables at the Rice Hotel.

One time we were sitting with Governor and the US Texas Senator.

I was about 8 years old.

I had better behave.

Parents were different back then.

They didn't try to be your friend.

BuddhaGirl

(3,605 posts)
51. Doesn't sound very fun :-(
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 10:16 PM
Jun 2022

Oh well.

Louis got lucky in the parent parent department and has parents who interact with him

But there will always be a cranky-pants who thinks they know better!

Texaswitchy

(2,962 posts)
53. My Mother stayed home until I was in Jr. High.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 10:29 PM
Jun 2022

She was a room mother and in PTA.

She was hands on.

I didn't have a nanny.

I had fun.

I got meet a lot famous people.

I met President Kennedy, LBJ, and Barbara Jordan.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
59. You do realize he's only 4?
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 02:31 PM
Jun 2022

Also, you didn't really argue my point. My parents are quite simply wrong in their estimation of their magical, heroic parenting abilities. I suspect that is the case most of the time.

BlueLucy

(1,609 posts)
46. Kate's fan's were saying Archie would be a brat before he was even born.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 07:53 PM
Jun 2022

Ever since I saw that video of Kate and Camilla mocking and making fun of Meghan for holding her pregnant stomach I lost all respect. That's where all the stories on British tabloids criticizing Meghan for holding her stomach came from. I can't stand her.

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
56. Which people would those be?
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 11:30 PM
Jun 2022

I honestly haven't spent a minute following the Queen's anniversary, but neither have I seen a story or opinion piece relating to this.

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