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MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 03:46 PM Jun 2022

Far Too Many People See the Hispanic Names of Those Uvalde Children,

and shrug internally. Far too many people have been influenced by prejudice and ignorance to recognize in their guts that those children are the same as their own children.

It is an enormous failing of our society that we react differently, depending on factors that do not and should not matter one bit to any of us.

This is our challenge. This is one of the major reasons we fail again and again.

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jimfields33

(15,760 posts)
2. I don't know about that. Is this any different then how Newtown, Connecticut was?
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 03:55 PM
Jun 2022

It seems very similar in the media and congress. I don’t see anybody shrugging. Do you have any links?

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,063 posts)
3. You are correct
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 04:05 PM
Jun 2022

It is my gut reaction that the Uvalde police did not rush the shooter for a number of reasons including an implicit bias towards the demographics of the kids who attended this school.

Hangingon

(3,071 posts)
5. Uvalde is almost 80% hispanic
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 04:34 PM
Jun 2022

I don’t know the demographics of the school system or law enforcement, but I expect it to reflect the overall pattern.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
6. Many on the Uvalde police are Hispanic.
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 05:54 PM
Jun 2022

How relevant that is to the response, I don't know. However, they did not respond promptly. Perhaps that is a leadership issue. I'm talking more about the general response after the fact.

maxsolomon

(33,281 posts)
8. Maybe. I don't know how you'd know this except assumption.
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 06:01 PM
Jun 2022

Did far too many shrug at the black victim's names in Buffalo?

The Gay victim's names at Pulse Nightclub?

The Sikh names at Oak Creek, WI?

It goes on and on and on. It's a blur.

maxsolomon

(33,281 posts)
10. I don't remember any of them, no.
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 07:09 PM
Jun 2022

It doesn't mean I shrugged because they were Hispanic. Or Black. Or Gay. Or Sikh.

I don't remember the names of the victims of my local Rampage shootings, either: 2012 Cafe Racer & the 2006 Rave After-Party. It's because I never knew them, and there are countless victims.





MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
13. I grew up in a small California agricultural town
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 08:20 PM
Jun 2022

in the 1950s. It had about 30% of its population who were Hispanic. None of those in my high school class went to college or ever had their names in the newspaper.

Now the town is three times the size it was. The Hispanic population is now 60%. Few go to college still, and their names still don't show up in the paper.

It doesn't seem to change. Sad.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
12. Here's a name I never knew that still bothers me
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 07:28 PM
Jun 2022
https://features.texasmonthly.com/editorial/the-reckoning/

Claire Wilson was 8 months pregnant when she was shot in the 1966 Univ of Texas school shootings.
That was the first school shooting that got to me.

Her unborn child got a headstone with "Baby Boy Wilson" on it. He never even got a name.

It always stuck with me that Republicans will go to such great lengths claiming a desire to protect the unborn from abortions. But clearly, the 2nd amendment takes precedence within the Republican party over abortion when you examine this unborn shooting death that happened about 150 miles from Uvalde 56 years ago. Not a lot has changed since then except a lot more school kids are dead or maimed along with some of their teachers with their families ripped apart.

Many of the deaths got to me. This one from Virginia Tech still haunts

Her name was Reema Samaha - not a typically white Christian name.
She had a wonderful loving family who were so devastated.
A beautiful ballerina/dancer. How could anybody shoot that? That's killing a mockingbird.
It won't compute. I can't get my head around blowing something like that away.
How could one shoot the beautiful little kids at Sandy Hook?

Sadly, there are thousands of tragic stories like this - painfully, too many names to recall.
But every one seems to take another piece of me. It is not getting any easier.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
16. The people that vote Trump and other racist trash
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 08:58 PM
Jun 2022

The guy that told the grandfather of one of the girls killed to stop looking at the past.

Sympthsical

(9,067 posts)
11. Not sure we needed another "They were brown" rodeo
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 07:16 PM
Jun 2022

At some point, racism's ability to seep everywhere into everything becomes increasingly apparent.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
15. Oh please, this tragedy has touched a chord in the country. Whether anything will come of it, I
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 08:49 PM
Jun 2022

don't know. What an awful opinion you must have of your fellow Americans.

In my little red town, the flags were lowered to half-mast, churches and community groups gathered to raise money for the families, ribbons and flowers were everywhere, signs appeared around town mourning the children...

I actually saw more attention paid to this latest horror than I did to Sandy Hook.

I'm sorry that it's that way in your community. That must be very disheartening.

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