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Beachnutt

(8,910 posts)
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 05:49 PM Jun 2022

What are the ways that we can protest gas prices ?

Buy an EV, carpooling, use public transportation, hold public protest in front of gas stations for price gouging,
please add to this list.

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What are the ways that we can protest gas prices ? (Original Post) Beachnutt Jun 2022 OP
Use less. Just use less. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #1
Until I can get an EV I may be forced to Beachnutt Jun 2022 #16
But really, the gas prices are a blessing. Bemoaning gas prices when the planet Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #20
Totally agree Beachnutt Jun 2022 #22
You can't. Your 1st 3 items aren't protests. maxsolomon Jun 2022 #2
Drive less. MineralMan Jun 2022 #3
Drive less. Vote more and better. Hortensis Jun 2022 #38
Use less and send money to UKR to defeat Russia once and for all relayerbob Jun 2022 #4
Tax the profits of the gas companies at the pumps. The gas companies set the price of gas so in2herbs Jun 2022 #5
Windfall profits tax would be an idea TheRealNorth Jun 2022 #7
Windfall profits taxes don't reduce costs... brooklynite Jun 2022 #10
It would reduce the incentive to price-gouge TheRealNorth Jun 2022 #30
Apparently a good enough idea for the UK to do it. GoodRaisin Jun 2022 #18
The money at the pump is not profit dumbcat Jun 2022 #17
No more please ripcord Jun 2022 #24
In other countries they tax $2-3 per gallon MichMan Jun 2022 #27
In other states it is much less ripcord Jun 2022 #28
Of course it would be passed on like all other taxes usually are MichMan Jun 2022 #29
So how does rasing the price of gas protest gas prices? ripcord Jun 2022 #31
Consolidate your trips -- i.e. reduce total miles driven. Pobeka Jun 2022 #6
+1. Less weight in car trunk. Proper air no_hypocrisy Jun 2022 #9
If the American public would Beachnutt Jun 2022 #11
You can protest all you want, but it won't change anything. Ocelot II Jun 2022 #8
We have a long way to go. Thunderbeast Jun 2022 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #14
Around here it's to keep dumbcat Jun 2022 #21
None of the above... Thunderbeast Jun 2022 #37
Call the city inspectors office. Tell them this is happening and you will be contacting Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #35
The Germans had a novel idea, and it worked DFW Jun 2022 #13
My state charges sales taxes on the total price (including gas taxes) MichMan Jun 2022 #15
If that is legal under Michigan law, then the state gets away with it DFW Jun 2022 #23
Simple, drive less. In 2020 when everything was shut down and we couldn't take a doc03 Jun 2022 #19
Yes, people were furloughed and everything was closed MichMan Jun 2022 #26
The op asked how we can get gas prices down, that is one way. That was extreme but doc03 Jun 2022 #33
Reverse-ICE gas pumps with EVs Shermann Jun 2022 #25
Shake your fist at the sky and yell. ZonkerHarris Jun 2022 #32
Ever notice how, whenever someone says, "How can we do better?" there is always someone Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #34
Drive absolutely minimally. Reduce demand. marmar Jun 2022 #36

Beachnutt

(8,910 posts)
16. Until I can get an EV I may be forced to
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 06:26 PM
Jun 2022

buy gas from the greedy big oil but by gosh I'll not buy anymore than I absolutely am forced too.

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
20. But really, the gas prices are a blessing. Bemoaning gas prices when the planet
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 06:42 PM
Jun 2022

is about to fry us alive is a bit short sighted.

We should be thinking about slashing our gas consumption so that our species can survive. Sticking it to the oil companies should be a nice byproduct, not the main purpose.

maxsolomon

(38,729 posts)
2. You can't. Your 1st 3 items aren't protests.
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 05:55 PM
Jun 2022

Gasoline is a publicly traded commodity - currently at $4.04/gallon.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
38. Drive less. Vote more and better.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 10:17 AM
Jun 2022

Fixing baked in problems starts with protesting our own behaviors.

in2herbs

(4,390 posts)
5. Tax the profits of the gas companies at the pumps. The gas companies set the price of gas so
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 05:58 PM
Jun 2022

why can't the govt impose a tax on those profits -- and do it right from the pump?

TheRealNorth

(9,647 posts)
7. Windfall profits tax would be an idea
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 06:02 PM
Jun 2022

But Republicans (and probably some Democrats) would oppose it.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
10. Windfall profits taxes don't reduce costs...
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 06:04 PM
Jun 2022

...they just transfer it to the Government.

GoodRaisin

(10,922 posts)
18. Apparently a good enough idea for the UK to do it.
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 06:36 PM
Jun 2022
Last month, Britain's Conservative government announced that the U.K. will impose a 25% windfall tax on oil and gas profits, which is expected to raise $19 billion to support low-income households struggling with a significant spike in the cost of living.

"If Britain's Conservatives can do it," Reich said Monday, "so can Biden."


Link to article: https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/07/demand-grows-windfall-profits-tax-goldman-sachs-predicts-more-gas-pump-pain

dumbcat

(2,160 posts)
17. The money at the pump is not profit
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 06:33 PM
Jun 2022

it's revenue. But many posters are too fiscally ignorant to know the difference, and the tax laws.

Why do we (Democrats) seem to have such a problem with the concept of supply and demand?

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
24. No more please
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 07:02 PM
Jun 2022

In California we are paying $1.18 in taxes per gallon for federal and state, the government is already getting their share at the pump.

MichMan

(17,151 posts)
27. In other countries they tax $2-3 per gallon
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 07:20 PM
Jun 2022

Thats why people are driving very small economical cars instead of full size trucks and SUV and mass transit is so prevalent

People here are always posting that gas is cheaper here than many other countries and that's why.

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
28. In other states it is much less
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 07:31 PM
Jun 2022

What makes you think the oil companies would eat the tax increase and not pass it on to consumers? I thought the point was to protest the oil companies not the taxpayers.

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
31. So how does rasing the price of gas protest gas prices?
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 08:17 PM
Jun 2022

It won't even diminish the profits of the oil companies so how is it helping gas prices?

Pobeka

(5,006 posts)
6. Consolidate your trips -- i.e. reduce total miles driven.
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 05:59 PM
Jun 2022

Don't run your car in the morning just to heat it up before you get in. Wear a jacket.
Don't use your car a/c if possible, just roll down the windows (at low speeds, when air temp is appropriate).
Don't sit in your car with the engine running while waiting for someone or talking on the cell phone, turn the engine off.
Don't drive round 'n round a parking lot looking for the closest spot to the store. Take the first one that is reasonable.
Don't accelerate as you approach a stop light or stop sign.
Don't speed (every 10mph reduces fue efficiency by 14%)
Accelerate modestly rather than all at once (worst fuel effeciency is when you are accelerating too fast just to save literally a couple of seconds).

Beachnutt

(8,910 posts)
11. If the American public would
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 06:05 PM
Jun 2022

do all of these things that you all have listed and stay disciplined about it we could possibly drive the price back down...🤷‍♂️

Ocelot II

(130,536 posts)
8. You can protest all you want, but it won't change anything.
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 06:03 PM
Jun 2022

Oil is produced internationally and traded on an international market. Even if some part of the high prices are attributable to price gouging, it's mainly on account of instability and less availability arising from the war in Ukraine and the aftermath of the pandemic. Some temporary measures might alleviate the situation a bit - some governors are calling for the suspension of gas taxes to temporarily lower fuel prices, though that will take money away from road projects. The White House is releasing oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve and taking steps to ease some emissions rules over the summer to increase the availability of gas. More domestic oil production, as some GOPers want, is arguably a way to decrease reliance on imported oil, but the basic problem - supply vs. demand - won't be affected by protesting. Using EVs, bicycles, public transportation and carpooling will save you money, but protesting in front of gas stations, which are just retail businesses that have absolutely no control over prices, is just stupid.

Thunderbeast

(3,819 posts)
12. We have a long way to go.
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 06:05 PM
Jun 2022

Across the street from me is a demolition crew cleaning up after a house fire. During their lunch break, they relaxed in the crew cab of a 10 cylinder pickup with their phones plugged in. Of course, the truck was running at idle to make sure the cell phone did not die.

I notice that on construction sites, trucks often sit for long periods with engines running. City inspectors leave THEIR trucks at idle when visiting construction sites.

What is wrong with these people?

Response to Thunderbeast (Reply #12)

dumbcat

(2,160 posts)
21. Around here it's to keep
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 06:42 PM
Jun 2022

the air conditioning running. Don't want to come back to a hot vehicle interior.

Alos, some modern trucks like my son's F150 Powerboost hybrid run the engine to power the electrical outlets in the bed to supply electricity to power tools, or even a house.

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
35. Call the city inspectors office. Tell them this is happening and you will be contacting
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 09:22 AM
Jun 2022

your legislator and asking that the inspectors office budget be reduced because clearly they have too much money if they are wasting it this way. Then put that in writing in an email. Then copy the inspectors office chief when you do contact your legislator.

Have your friends do the same.

DFW

(60,186 posts)
13. The Germans had a novel idea, and it worked
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 06:08 PM
Jun 2022

There was a mass outcry to the members of the Bundestag (Parliament), and they reduced the tax on gas to the point where prices dropped ten per cent in a day (!!!), and the oil companies are under pressure to join in the act and reduce their prices as well. Their argument is that existing stocks cost more, and price drops will be "soon," but the public isn't buying it.

Of course, with prices at the pump scratching $$10 per US gallon, dropping the price to $9, while appreciated, is still in stratospheric heights.

By the way, since they slyly put VAT on the entire pump price, instead of as a supplemental tax, the government was collecting tax on the tax (!!!!!). they were paying Value Added Tax on both the gas AND the mineral oil tax that was an integral part of the pump price. Something like 13 Euro cents out of every liter was tax on the tax, which is literally unconstitutional here, since the German Constitution expressly forbids double taxation. That is why a wealth tax failed at the constitutional level. It seems such a tax was arbitrarily applied to a certain ethnic group in Germany some 85 years ago, and it left a rather bitter taste in post-war memories. But sneaking it into a tax on gasoline was very clever. While illegal, no one was going to mount a class action suit for a tax that cost them a few Euros a week, so they got away with it until now. A friend of ours is a judge on the tax court here, and agreed the tax on the tax was absolutely illegal, and he would strike it down if it were to come before him. But no one has ever mounted the suit. However, a large numbers of members of parliament were deluged with local anger, and THAT got their attention.

Like Tip O'Neill said, all politics is local.

MichMan

(17,151 posts)
15. My state charges sales taxes on the total price (including gas taxes)
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 06:14 PM
Jun 2022

The governor wanted to add an additional 42 cents a gallon tax increase a few years ago, but the legislature wouldn't go along with it. I can just imagine the outrage now had it gone into effect.

DFW

(60,186 posts)
23. If that is legal under Michigan law, then the state gets away with it
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 07:02 PM
Jun 2022

In Germany, it is unconstitutional, but who is going to mount a national class action suit over something that costs them €8.21 (or whatever it comes out to) every two weeks?

doc03

(39,086 posts)
19. Simple, drive less. In 2020 when everything was shut down and we couldn't take a
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 06:38 PM
Jun 2022

road trip the oil industry was paying to get rid of their oil.

MichMan

(17,151 posts)
26. Yes, people were furloughed and everything was closed
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 07:10 PM
Jun 2022

Many activities were prohibited or shut down completely. Let's do that again. You can start if you like, but don't see anyone else signing up for that again.

doc03

(39,086 posts)
33. The op asked how we can get gas prices down, that is one way. That was extreme but
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 08:43 PM
Jun 2022

gas prices went down didn't they? You can still double up on trips, try to shop more locally, walk or ride a bike.
I have a truck that gets 18 MPG and a Honda CRV that gets 30 MPG, I drive the CRV unless I have to use the truck.
I haven't spent any more on gas this year than last.

I find it amusing sometimes when I hear people complaining about inflation. Yet I drive by Starbucks and there are
two lanes of cars lined up to buy a $6-7-8 cup of coffee. McDonalds, Chik-fi-la and Burger King have a line waiting all day.
On weekends all the higher end sit down restaurants have people waiting to be seated. I know it is hard if you have a low income but it sure looks like most of us are doing pretty good.

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
34. Ever notice how, whenever someone says, "How can we do better?" there is always someone
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 09:18 AM
Jun 2022

who seems to feel superior to the discussion and needs to piss on it?

It's interesting.

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