Hold it. Cruz and Grassley went on the attack with a guy who's mother was killed in Buffalo?

[underpants]

White supremacist attacks stir GOP fears for safety of White people
By Dana Milbank - good stats refuting these miserable aholes at the link

“What are you doing?” Whitfield demanded of the members of the Senate Judiciary Committee at their hearing on Tuesday. “Is there nothing that you personally are willing to do to stop the cancer of white supremacy and the domestic terrorism it inspires?” With breaking voice and sniffles, he added: “My mother’s life mattered. Your actions here today will tell us how much it matters to you.”

Then, Republicans on the panel answered — with accounts of violence committed by Black people and antifa.

“The Brooklyn subway shooter was a known Black supremacist who called for racial violence,” said Sen. Ted Cruz (Tex.). “The Waukesha attacker … was a viciously left-wing Black nationalist bigot. Another Black nationalist gunned down five police officers in Dallas.” Cruz went on, about “the violence of the antifa riots and the Black Lives Matter riots.”

Sen. Chuck Grassley …..

Repeatedly, Whitfield asked the lawmakers what they would do about his mother’s death. Republicans, in their refusal to acknowledge the unique harm being done by Carlson, party leaders and white supremacists, gave their answer: not a thing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/07/white-supremacist-attacks-hearing-republicans/

[Novara]

1. Childish

"I know I am but what are you" is never an appropriate tactic for legislators.

Jeebus.

[madashelltoo]

2. Forgive my language, but

F..K both of them! Upside down and inside out!

[Walleye]

3. But they didn't say what they plan to do to solve the problem of all these black supremacists

they play the what aboutism, they never play what to do aboutitism. I’ve never heard of black supremacist and or black nationalism, has anybody

[canuckledragger]

5. It's the lies white supremists tell

whenever one of their own yet again murders a bunch of people.

Their deflections tells us what we need to know about them, as they assume that everyone is just like them as they project that outlook on their enemies.

[Walleye]

9. That is so true. And it is a large element in our society.we haven't a clue what to do about it

They can only win by cheating so they believe that we cheat all the time as well and lie about it. It is not reality based

[calimary]

14. "If you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail."

That old saying has a whole new relevance when you add what you just posted.

[tanyev]

8. Yep. Same thing when they blame it on "mental health problems".

Never, ever do they talk about ways to keep guns out of the hands of people with “mental health problems”.

[towerbum]

15. the republican's are the mental problem! there all mentally disturbed!

[erronis]

32. King of Hearts (movie) - The repugs think they know how to govern (NOT)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_of_Hearts_(1966_film)

[towerbum]

33. nailed that one !

[wnylib]

11. Then a good response is to say that

gun control laws would save both Black and White lives.

Don't get sidetracked into arguing with them about White vs. Black supremacists. Just take their statements on face value and say that both Whites and Blacks have a stake in ending gun violence.

(Cases of White on White massacres could be cited, I guess, like Columbine.)

[erronis]

16. You're so right. It isn't Black vs. White as they want to make it to feed their frothing idjits.

[wnylib]

29. In the case of Buffalo, the shooter was

a White supremacist, so that is a huge issue now in Buffalo. That is why the retired Buffalo fire chief was so focused on White supremacy in his testimony about the Buffo shootings. Gun violence is a problem for everyone, but Buffalo is dealing with two issues at the same time, racism and gun violence.

There is nothing more despicable than the cold-hearted response to a man grieving his mother's death and trying to end gun violence and racial violence.

[geardaddy]

18. Not really a Black nationalist group, but a hate group (ant-Semitic, anti-LGBT)

but, since they're POC, they obviously don't have the power of the Republican party behind them.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/radical-hebrew-israelites

Since the late 1960’s the Radical Hebrew Israelites ideology splintered to form increasingly anti-Semitic, anti-white, anti-LGBTQ, xenophobic and misogynistic sect of groups who preach they and only they are the true Israelites of the bible and perpetuate the anti-Semitic belief that “so-called” Jews have stolen their identity and “birthright.”

Either way, Cruz, Grassley, and all the other Fascists in the GQP can fuck off.

[Marcuse]

26. The ubiquitous "Blacks for Trump" guy was/is one of them.

Trump Campaign Embraces “Blacks for Trump” Founder Who Belonged to Violent Cult
A former cult member who promotes anti-Semitic and racist conspiracy theories shares the spotlight with Trump.
https://theintercept.com/2020/10/19/blacks-for-trump-maurice-symonette-cult/

[geardaddy]

35. Thanks for the info

I used to see the "Black Hebrew Israelites" "preaching" in downtown Minneapolis at rush hour quite often.

[canuckledragger]

4. Boy these russian assets

...sure have the whataboutism they were taught down pat.

[MagickMuffin]

6. So, it would seem doing something about gun violence is STILL the issue

So, DO SOMETHING!

If you're gonna go down this path of who kills more people then there should be something to combat gun violence. Perhaps that might end gun violence and stop the killings.

[UTUSN]

7. "their favorite all-purpose TURLEY" - who sat smugly next to the wrenching testimony

TURLEY is a jerk publicity ahole

**********QUOTE*********

.... Instead, they brought in their favorite all-purpose witness on Tuesday, law professor Jonathan Turley, who argued against the Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act and claimed that the Jan. 6 insurrection was not an act of domestic terrorism. But mostly, Turley testified about himself: “I have received hundreds of threats against myself, my family, and even my dog. … I am generally viewed as something of a free-speech purist. … I come to this subject as someone who has written, litigated and testified in the areas of terrorism, extremist advocacy, and free speech for decades. I have also represented the United States House of Representatives in litigation. … I should confess to a bias as a Madisonian scholar.” ....


*******UNQUOTE**

[Ferrets are Cool]

13. I actually used to like Turley when he was on Olberman's show

man, something must have broken in that man. He is fucked up crazy nowadays.

[UTUSN]

21. Been several years broken, media hound, got more from wingnuts

[world wide wally]

10. How about this?

Current laws about age requirments remain in effect for shotguns or other hunting related firearms.
5 Years without any convictions for a crime to buy an AR-15 or similar "weapon of war" ?

Seems simple enough to me.
(The 5 years guarantees no one under the age of 21 can buy an AR-!5. and falls in with several other laws already in effect not related to firearms)

[hibbing]

12. I keep trying to join this all powerful antifa, can someone get me an invite? n/t

[erronis]

17. Just like being a life-long mormon. You're already an honorary member (I hope)

I hope we are all anti-fascists - knowing that others are pro-fa.

[rubbersole]

22. Arlington National Cemetery is full of antifa heroes.

Antifa is an idea. Like capitalism. Our whole patriotic country was anti fascist until words didn't have meaning anymore. Mussolini wanted fascism to be called corporatism, the joining of government and corporations. Republicans have been doing this for 40 years.

[AngryOldDem]

34. It's like the wizard behind the curtain.

“Antifa” is the new “Benghazi” to the GOP.

Oh, and fuck Cruz and Grassley sideways.

[peggysue2]

19. This is what whataboutism sounds like

Never address the issue at hand. Always distract, deflect and be a heartless asshole.

Cruz and Grassley have it down pat.

[Evolve Dammit]

23. yes they sure do. Orwellian out of 1984 or Goebbels playbook. Works too

[erronis]

20. Makes me think of all the repuglicon efforts to suppress even studies of gun violence.

Committee chairman Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), noting that Fox News’s Carlson alone has amplified the “great replacement” theory (in which White people are supposedly targeted for marginalization) on more than 400 episodes of his show, urged his colleagues to “speak in one voice and repudiate this incendiary rhetoric, along with any individual or extremist group that resorts to violence.”

But Republican senators declined that invitation, instead turning repeatedly to Turley and to their other witness, former U.S. attorney Justin Herdman, to support their desire not to focus on white supremacists; they wanted to evaluate the threat of terrorism without “any sort of analysis of the ideology,” as Herdman put it.

In his poignant opening statement, Whitfield spoke of the man who allegedly killed his mother: “He did not act alone. He was radicalized by white supremacists. His anger and hatred were metastasized like a cancer by people with big microphones screaming that Black people were going to take away their jobs and opportunities.”

[underpants]

24. It's was purposely disrespectful

Frankly they were grandstanding to appease the most rabid racists. There is no other logical explanation.

[Fla Dem]

25. What assholes, more "WHATABOUTISM" and "The OTHER SIDE DOES IT"

More "WHATABOUTISM" and "The OTHER SIDE DOES IT"
Assholes, assholes assholes.

Instead of seeing the issue as a threat to ALL citizens,

-Black, White, Brown
-Christian, Jewish, Muslim and other religions
-Rich, middle class, poor
-Men, Women, Children

Any school, workplace, shopping center, mall, place of worship, beauty salon, grocery store, etc.

Every single person can become a victim and any place can become the site of a massacre.

The killers don't care as long as they have their grievance and gun they will kill whomever is in their way.

[AllaN01Bear]

27. Black nationalist?was a viciously left-wing Black nationalist bigot.?

violence of the antifa riots and the Black Lives Matter riots.” where in the cluck did he get this felgercarb?

[underpants]

28. Talk radio

They are just parroting talk radio. They might not even have coordinated this, they all know it by heart.

[LudwigPastorius]

30. Death Cult scumbags, both of them. n/t

[sop]

31. No one in the Democratic party defends so-called "black supremacists" or "black nationalists"

like Republicans defend and make excuses for white supremacists and white nationalists. And unlike white supremacists, black supremacists didn't have a black president in the White House calling them "fine people" or telling them to "stand back and stand by."

[Leith]

36. Well, if a black victim is responsible for all crimes committed by black people

it would stand to reason that all white people are responsible for all crimes committed by white people.

So, you stupid senators - restrain your followers.

[Blue Owl]

37. Fuckin' dickbags

[underpants]

38. No shit.

Just..I mean....

[moondust]

39. "Senator, what did you do

to get all that blood on your hands?"

(pause)

"Nothing?"