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Do Great Lakes sound like the ocean? I mean, like waves (Original Post) raccoon Jun 2022 OP
Sometimes Jaydog Jun 2022 #1
Lake Michigan sounds like Santa Monica beach, but nothing like the Oregon coast. Binkie The Clown Jun 2022 #2
Loved the Oregon Coast. shrike3 Jun 2022 #18
I've been on the shore of Lake Michigan and the surg... brush Jun 2022 #3
When it's very windy Sympthsical Jun 2022 #4
Wow. You were very fortunate. shrike3 Jun 2022 #7
I've been in severe sudden storms on Lake Ontario, nearly drowned once wishstar Jun 2022 #30
They can, yes. shrike3 Jun 2022 #5
Good question LeftInTX Jun 2022 #6
I live along Lake Michigan. shrike3 Jun 2022 #8
But aren't those secondary due to weather? LeftInTX Jun 2022 #9
Given the dangers involved, it's almost irrelevant. shrike3 Jun 2022 #14
I'm from Wisconsin, so yeah I know LeftInTX Jun 2022 #21
Good point. shrike3 Jun 2022 #27
In Milwaukee TheRealNorth Jun 2022 #17
Oh yeah, we've had bacterial problems down here. shrike3 Jun 2022 #28
No comparison snowybirdie Jun 2022 #10
Good point. Except when you're near the bike/walking path and see those waves. shrike3 Jun 2022 #15
I Buy That ProfessorGAC Jun 2022 #33
I've never seen any of the Great Lakes, but I do know winter storms can take a ship to the bottom Hekate Jun 2022 #11
Yes, depending on conditions kcr Jun 2022 #12
Nothing like the Pacific Ocean Novara Jun 2022 #13
I lived along the Atlantic. Only visited the Pacific. shrike3 Jun 2022 #16
It really is too cold Novara Jun 2022 #19
Well, I never set my foot in it. shrike3 Jun 2022 #20
You have "Lake Effect" cooling with the Great Lakes too. TheRealNorth Jun 2022 #23
Nothing like northern California, though - that's really dramatic Novara Jun 2022 #25
We Live 50 Miles From Lake Michigan ProfessorGAC Jun 2022 #36
I've lived at or near the south shore of Lake Erie my whole life.. LeftinOH Jun 2022 #22
First Great Lake I ever saw. When we drove along the shore, the Hortensis Jun 2022 #37
Lake Superior xmas74 Jun 2022 #24
Lake Michigan from the West Coast of Michigan does. Johnny2X2X Jun 2022 #26
Lake Superior can get some pretty big waves that sound pretty close to the Atlantic DetroitLegalBeagle Jun 2022 #29
Some beautiful pictures of Lake Erie storm waves Tom Kitten Jun 2022 #31
Hang on let me stick my head out the window.. 48656c6c6f20 Jun 2022 #32
They sound like cars rolling by out on 441. nt Tommy Carcetti Jun 2022 #34
Lake Michigan feels very ocean-like Happy Hoosier Jun 2022 #35
Lake Michigan - loved it. phylny Jun 2022 #38
Thank you! To me, that's like the ocean only the waves are closer together. NT raccoon Jun 2022 #50
In my opinion, no they don't sound like the ocean. llmart Jun 2022 #39
Most of the "crashing" sounds come when a wave hits a man-made structure, GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #40
the waves are smaller iemanja Jun 2022 #41
10 November 1975. roamer65 Jun 2022 #47
When the winds up VGNonly Jun 2022 #42
I have seen 15 foot waves along western Michigan shores on windy days. Emile Jun 2022 #43
On the shore, the lakes produce smaller waves, but the ocean has longer waves. SYFROYH Jun 2022 #44
No tides to worry about ironflange Jun 2022 #45
Different frequency to the waves. roamer65 Jun 2022 #46
When it storms ellie Jun 2022 #48
I lived in Chicago for a while BarackTheVote Jun 2022 #49
I would love to see a picture of that nt XanaDUer2 Jun 2022 #51
I might have some pictures somewhere BarackTheVote Jun 2022 #52
Lol, yes XanaDUer2 Jun 2022 #53

Jaydog

(149 posts)
1. Sometimes
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:12 PM
Jun 2022

Depending on the wind.
I have seen large waves on Lake Michigan, and body-surfed on them.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
2. Lake Michigan sounds like Santa Monica beach, but nothing like the Oregon coast.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:15 PM
Jun 2022

Every beach, every shoreline, will have a different sound depending on so may different factors.
There is no single sound for a Great Lakes shore, just as there is no single sound for "the ocean."

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
3. I've been on the shore of Lake Michigan and the surg...
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:15 PM
Jun 2022

was not as high, nor the sound as loud as the Atlantic of Pacific. That's my experience. Lake Michigan is the thrid largest lake. Superior and Huron are larger, maybe their surfs/waves are too.

Sympthsical

(11,120 posts)
4. When it's very windy
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:16 PM
Jun 2022

I used to live along Lake Michigan. One time, the wind was sending waves over the walls onto the walking area along the shore. One caught my bike wheels about halfway up and pulled my bike out from under me. It was a bit much.

Generally, the lakes are pretty quiet. But under the right conditions they can be pretty rowdy.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
7. Wow. You were very fortunate.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:20 PM
Jun 2022

I've been along the lake when it acts like that. Someone I know says, "Lake Michigan does not want you in her." Why she never goes swimming. She'll hang out at the beach, stick her toes in the water, but never go in beyond wading depth.

wishstar

(5,837 posts)
30. I've been in severe sudden storms on Lake Ontario, nearly drowned once
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 02:23 PM
Jun 2022

When I was 14, my sibs and cousins and I all swam out from rocky shoreline in water over our heads to a nice shallow sandbar offshore as we often did during our July get togethers. But on this hot sunny afternoon a freak storm developed and rapidly came over us creating huge waves so we all swimmed toward shore furiously. I was the youngest and weakest swimmer and was overcome with the waves. The others stood on the shore watching me in trouble and my 16 year old cousin swam out and I grabbed onto his shoulders as he carried me to shore. But I swallowed a lot of water and was unconscious and had to be carried to the family cottage where they helped get the water out and revive me.
This favorite cousin who rescued me joined the Navy 2 years later during Vietnam War and after coming home died from a sudden stroke at a young age and I still miss him.

Many years later, husband and I were visiting and walked out to the end of a long lighthouse pier where several people were fishing. The day was clear, calm and sunny. But we suddenly noticed a waterspout offshore so I said we better race to the car. Husband didn't see the urgency, but quickly walked back with me. Before we could reach the beachy shore, the waves overcame the pier sweeping away all of the coolers and fishing tackle and the wind blew sand from adjoining beach area that was so extreme that my car always had sand in every crevice from that time on as we opened doors and hopped in to escape the storm.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
5. They can, yes.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:18 PM
Jun 2022

I've lived by the Great Lakes and the ocean. It depends on the weather.

The Great Lakes can also be dangerous as hell. You know summer's arrived when people start drowning.

Here where I live, a couple of college guys were kept from swimming in Lake Michigan by lifeguards. Riptides. They found an unguarded beach. You can guess the rest -- one of them drowned.

From Great Lakes safety

When you visit the Great Lakes it’s important to know about the hazards you may face. Staying aware and alert is what will keep you safe in the dynamic conditions found on their beaches.

“Dangerous currents and breaking waves are common in the Great Lakes region. Rip currents, other currents, and river outlets found near piers (also known as breakwaters/breakwalls) are extremely dangerous for swimmers and can lead to drownings”. (Michigan Sea Grant, member of the Great Lakes Water Safety Consortium)

To stay safe, you need to stay aware of the weather and what is going on around you.
Even small waves can hit you with the force of a car! Getting knocked down or pinned to the sand can cause serious injury.


https://www.weather.gov/safety/great-lakes

Lots good info at the link.

LeftInTX

(34,853 posts)
6. Good question
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:20 PM
Jun 2022
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/gltides.html

https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/seiche.html

Maybe the general waves seen on calm days are due to ships and other disturbances in the water. I've hopped in Lake Michigan in South Milwaukee on a hot day. I swear there were small waves, but then there were other people hopping in at the same time.
 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
8. I live along Lake Michigan.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:21 PM
Jun 2022

Beach closing are not uncommon, due to dangerous conditions.
 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
14. Given the dangers involved, it's almost irrelevant.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:29 PM
Jun 2022

I shared the link upthread.

Ocean conditions are of course much different. Operate the way they do for certain reasons. I've lived on the Atlantic ocean and I've lived along the Great Lakes. All in all, the Ocean is more impressive. And has much more interesting marine life; that goes without saying. But it's never good to underestimate the Great Lakes.

LeftInTX

(34,853 posts)
21. I'm from Wisconsin, so yeah I know
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:37 PM
Jun 2022

But even the Gulf of Mexico, which is the sleepiest coast in the Atlantic has a rhythm. Plop yourself on a beach towel and pass out listening to the rhythm of the waves. (And get sunburnt as heck). If you sleep too long you have to worry about tides.

TheRealNorth

(9,647 posts)
17. In Milwaukee
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:32 PM
Jun 2022

Those closings are often due to high bacterial counts in the water. Particularly later in summer.

While on average, I am guessing the oceans are a bit rougher when it comes to wave, the Great Lakes can get very bad with the right weather conditions.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
28. Oh yeah, we've had bacterial problems down here.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:51 PM
Jun 2022

And like I said upthread, you know it's summertime when people start drowning.

snowybirdie

(6,751 posts)
10. No comparison
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:25 PM
Jun 2022

I lived in Chicago and Lake Michigan. More like lapping waves mostly. Also lived on Pacific Ocean beach in Mexico. Waves sounded like cannon balls frequently.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
15. Good point. Except when you're near the bike/walking path and see those waves.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:30 PM
Jun 2022

Can get a little scary.

ProfessorGAC

(77,306 posts)
33. I Buy That
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 02:30 PM
Jun 2022

Can one hear waves on a Great Lake? Sure.
But, they tend to be more a whooshing sound. Ocean waves are much more powerful sounding.
Being from Chicagoland my whole life, I've been along Lake Michigan scads of times.
Being that I traveled somewhat regularly to Singapore, Indonesia, & the Philippines (near Batangas), I agree the sounds are not comparable.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
11. I've never seen any of the Great Lakes, but I do know winter storms can take a ship to the bottom
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:26 PM
Jun 2022



kcr

(15,522 posts)
12. Yes, depending on conditions
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:27 PM
Jun 2022

I grew up near them, and remember the first time I saw the ocean. I was expecting it to be this big special moment like it is in the movies, but it was a lot like the beaches I lived near, so I was a little let down. The ocean air is quite different, though, which I like.

Edited to add that I feel like some of the comments in this thread are giving the wrong impression. The cause may be different, but waves are waves. I live near Long Island Sound now, and it's more like a lake than the Great Lakes are, even though it's connected to the ocean. The Great Lakes are essentially freshwater seas. They have calm and rough conditions the same as any other sea. It also depends on the lake. Erie is calmer than Superior, for example.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
13. Nothing like the Pacific Ocean
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:27 PM
Jun 2022

I've lived in both places and nothing beats the sound of the Pacific.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
16. I lived along the Atlantic. Only visited the Pacific.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:31 PM
Jun 2022

The Pacific was impressive. It's funny, my brother lives in Cali and he and their family just stick to their pool. Find the ocean too cold.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
19. It really is too cold
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:33 PM
Jun 2022

It's why San Francisco stays cool in the summers - the cooling air over the cold waters of the Pacific blows inland and keeps the area cool all summer. Man, I miss it.

The Pacific is not a pacific type of ocean. It is a wild ocean.

 

shrike3

(5,370 posts)
20. Well, I never set my foot in it.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:35 PM
Jun 2022

But it sure looked like a wild ocean to me from shore.

My nieces got into surfing for a while, but always wore wet suits. You are not the person I've talked to who concurs that the water out there is too cold.

TheRealNorth

(9,647 posts)
23. You have "Lake Effect" cooling with the Great Lakes too.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:46 PM
Jun 2022

During the summer, the temperature along Lake Michigan is often 5-10 degrees lower than what it is 10 miles inland.

During early winter, it's sometimes a few degrees warmer along the lake.

ProfessorGAC

(77,306 posts)
36. We Live 50 Miles From Lake Michigan
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 02:32 PM
Jun 2022

It's not uncommon for that differential to hit the high teens.
75 on the lakeshore, 93 here.
Often a 5-10 difference the other way in winter. 20 on the lake, 12 here.

LeftinOH

(5,677 posts)
22. I've lived at or near the south shore of Lake Erie my whole life..
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:38 PM
Jun 2022

..and no, it doesn't sound like the ocean. It's remarkably silent - but during major storms the chop can get pretty wild. Another major distinction from the oceans is that the Great Lakes have no odor; that classic scent of ocean breeze simply doesn't exist.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. First Great Lake I ever saw. When we drove along the shore, the
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 03:58 PM
Jun 2022

size related it to the oceans we were used to, but the water was barely below the pavement and as calm as a pond. Felt surreal.

Johnny2X2X

(24,439 posts)
26. Lake Michigan from the West Coast of Michigan does.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 01:48 PM
Jun 2022

There's always gentle rolling waves coming in even on calm days. I've fallen asleep to the sounds of the lake and the ocean.

The beaches along Lake Michigan have great sand too. Late Summer, early Fall when the wind picks up can see waves in excess of 10 feet on the regular, occasionally even 15-20 feet.

I think the frequency is greater in the great lakes than the ocean, less distance between wave crests. So the rhythm is a little faster.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(2,527 posts)
29. Lake Superior can get some pretty big waves that sound pretty close to the Atlantic
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 02:07 PM
Jun 2022

Lake Michigan and Huron seem to have quieter, faster paced I guess, waves, at least in my limited experience. I'm mainly on Lake St Clair and only boat on a Huron and Michigan on rare occasions. Lake St Clair is a baby lake compared to the others.

Happy Hoosier

(9,629 posts)
35. Lake Michigan feels very ocean-like
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 02:32 PM
Jun 2022

Crashing waves, etc. if the wind is up, you can get waves big enough to surf on.

llmart

(17,729 posts)
39. In my opinion, no they don't sound like the ocean.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 04:23 PM
Jun 2022

I grew up on Lake Erie. I have been on the shore of every great lake. I have also lived in North Carolina and been to the ocean too many times to count. I've also been to Point Reyes National Seashore, Cannon Beach, Oregon.

There is nothing to compare to the sound, smell of the air, vibe of the oceans.

GoCubsGo

(35,006 posts)
40. Most of the "crashing" sounds come when a wave hits a man-made structure,
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 04:23 PM
Jun 2022

like a break wall, pier or groyne. Usually, it's during foul weather, with high winds. Otherwise, waves lapping up on the beach in fair weather sound like ocean waves lapping on a beach on the coasts.

iemanja

(57,780 posts)
41. the waves are smaller
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 04:25 PM
Jun 2022

and hence the sound is lower. Storms increase the turbulence and with it the sound. There have been many shipwrecks in Lake Superior.

VGNonly

(8,553 posts)
42. When the winds up
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 04:27 PM
Jun 2022

the waves can be bad, even scary. Once I was at Lake Superior, Pukaskwa NP Ontario with near gale west winds. It sounded like artillery shells.

This clip is Lake Michigan.


SYFROYH

(34,214 posts)
44. On the shore, the lakes produce smaller waves, but the ocean has longer waves.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 04:30 PM
Jun 2022

and nothing smells like the ocean.

roamer65

(37,974 posts)
46. Different frequency to the waves.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 06:15 PM
Jun 2022

Ocean freighters have to be careful on the Lakes in rougher water.

BarackTheVote

(938 posts)
49. I lived in Chicago for a while
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 06:51 PM
Jun 2022

We’d have waves breaking 10, 20 feet over the “seawall.” What was real cool was when it froze that way

BarackTheVote

(938 posts)
52. I might have some pictures somewhere
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:01 PM
Jun 2022

Just as likely, I was bundled up and too in pain to reach for my phone; it was excruciatingly cold, as you can probably imagine

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