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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,954 posts)
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 09:28 PM Jun 2022

Abortion opponents once agreed rape and incest were 'exceptions.' What changed?

When Alabama approved an abortion ban in 2019 without exceptions for victims of rape and incest, it wasn’t just some prominent Republicans who disagreed with those exclusions. Televangelist Pat Robertson called the law “too extreme.”

But since then, rape and incest exceptions – once an accepted part of proposed abortion restrictions and supported by a series of Republican presidents including Donald Trump – have been increasingly rejected by conservative state legislatures.

Rape and incest exceptions were excluded in 24 of 30 abortion bans and restrictions enacted by states including Arkansas, Kentucky, Texas, Arizona, Florida and Missouri in the last few years, according to the Guttmacher Institute, which tracks abortion laws.

Among 92 proposals for abortion restrictions pending in states this year alone, only a handful contained those exceptions, said Elizabeth Nash, a state policy analyst for Guttmacher, which supports abortion rights.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/abortion-opponents-once-agreed-rape-090234444.html

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Abortion opponents once agreed rape and incest were 'exceptions.' What changed? (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2022 OP
They've spent years teaching their cult member about the "slippery slope" unitedwethrive Jun 2022 #1
Tbf, I find it a lot more honest when people who say they believe abortion is murder don't allow WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #2
Yeah, I guess it makes a perverted kind of sense... Wounded Bear Jun 2022 #4
Misogyny shrouded in religion Pobeka Jun 2022 #3
They hate and fear women of all ages and want them to suffer, and are no longer pretending 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2022 #5
Drunk with power Walleye Jun 2022 #6
Creeping fascism. roamer65 Jun 2022 #7
Toxic Absolutism Stinky The Clown Jun 2022 #8
Cruel and unusual punishment Freddie Jun 2022 #9
Here's the essential problem. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2022 #10
This: musette_sf Jun 2022 #11

unitedwethrive

(1,997 posts)
1. They've spent years teaching their cult member about the "slippery slope"
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 09:30 PM
Jun 2022

and apparently feel that it applies to everything. Logical facts be damned.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,329 posts)
2. Tbf, I find it a lot more honest when people who say they believe abortion is murder don't allow
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 09:34 PM
Jun 2022

exceptions for rape or incest. If you're going to be extreme, at least be consistent!

Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
4. Yeah, I guess it makes a perverted kind of sense...
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 09:36 PM
Jun 2022


Hopefully, this will enhance the backlash against the forced birthers.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
3. Misogyny shrouded in religion
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 09:34 PM
Jun 2022

Simple as that. This is deep seated hatred of women ever having anything resembling respect or independence.

Freddie

(9,265 posts)
9. Cruel and unusual punishment
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 09:44 PM
Jun 2022

Is prohibited in the Constitution - oh wait, that’s only for criminals! Cruel and unusual punishment for crime VICTIMS is A-Ok!
What they’re really saying is the diseased spunk of a monster deserves more rights than the woman. After all, we’re just vessels.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,852 posts)
10. Here's the essential problem.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 09:47 PM
Jun 2022

I don't buy into their banning of abortion. I don't share their beliefs. Why are they trying to force their religious beliefs on me?

I do think the underlying problem is that those opposed to abortion, especially those opposed to all abortions, no exceptions, are stuck in the belief that women walk past an abortion clinic when 8 1/2 months pregnant and think, "Darn, I'll have an abortion now" as if no actual thought precedes the decision.

In reality, women think long and hard before having an abortion, even if the circumstances are such they see no other possible choice. Men simply don't get it. They can't get pregnant, and so they think having an abortion or having the baby is a bit like the decision to order a hot dog or a hamburger at a restaurant. They haven't a clue.

And these are precisely the men who think guns are fine, should be available to everyone one, and gosh, what a shame that school kids get killed but oh, well, that's the price we pay for guns. Clearly none of them have ever lost anyone to a mass shooting.

musette_sf

(10,200 posts)
11. This:
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 10:56 PM
Jun 2022

They want women to die from compromised pregnancies.
They want women to die from illegal unsafe terminations.
They don’t care if an impregnated child rape victim kills herself as a last resort.
They don’t care that the leading cause of death for pregnant women is domestic violence.
BECAUSE DEAD WOMEN CAN’T VOTE.

They want to make every woman seeking pregnancy termination a felon.
BECAUSE FELONS CAN’T VOTE.

Jane Crow disenfranchisement.

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