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packman

(16,296 posts)
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 09:41 PM Jun 2022

Gun control in Japan - Should be US model

As the U.S. gun control debate intensifies, some Americans are looking overseas for ideas on how to prevent mass shootings. Japan has one of the lowest rates of gun violence in the world. There were more than four firearm homicides in the U.S. per 100,000 people during 2019, compared to almost zero in Japan.

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In a striking bit of irony, Japan owes its strict gun laws largely to the United States.

When the U.S. occupied Japan after World War II, it disarmed the country. Americans shaped the legislation that took firearms out of the hands of Japanese civilians.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gun-laws-firearms-japan-us-gun-violence-new-laws-post-world-war-2/

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Gun control in Japan - Should be US model (Original Post) packman Jun 2022 OP
"Americans shaped the legislation that took firearms out of the hands of Japanese civilians." Aussie105 Jun 2022 #1
Just how do you "steamroll" over the 2A? MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2022 #2
Rational gun policy can come about without amending the Constitution. Chainfire Jun 2022 #5
I agree with what you said, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2022 #6
American exceptionalism means we don't have to learn anything from other countries... Wounded Bear Jun 2022 #3
Not going to happen, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2022 #4
Since Heller made private ownership of firearms an individual right ripcord Jun 2022 #7
Some pretty shoddy journalism there. Straw Man Jun 2022 #8

Aussie105

(5,332 posts)
1. "Americans shaped the legislation that took firearms out of the hands of Japanese civilians."
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 09:45 PM
Jun 2022

Time for America to do the same thing at home.

Steamroller over the NRA and the outdated second amendment.

What is stopping you?

Send man to the Moon, but can't protect your own citizens from some random stranger with a gun?

Needs to happen! Soon!!!!!!

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
2. Just how do you "steamroll" over the 2A?
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 09:50 PM
Jun 2022

How are we to get 2/3rds of the Congress and 3/4ths of the states to steamroll over it ?

Chainfire

(17,467 posts)
5. Rational gun policy can come about without amending the Constitution.
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 10:36 PM
Jun 2022

I think that all rational people understand that the Constitution will not, anytime in the foreseeable future, will be amended to kill gun policy, but It is not necessary. "A well regulated militia" will mean what the SC says it means...Since the SC just about to change "settled law" on the abortion issue, the meaning of 2A could change every time that the balance of the court changes. However, once that offensive weapons are converted to rebar, they won't make a comeback.

It is a hell of a good reason to stack the court now.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
6. I agree with what you said,
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 11:11 PM
Jun 2022

but the discussion is about instituting Japan style firearms laws here in the US, which you and I and just about any person with a brain knows will not happen, that horse has left the barn.

ripcord

(5,268 posts)
7. Since Heller made private ownership of firearms an individual right
Wed Jun 8, 2022, 11:51 PM
Jun 2022

Not much it going to be done now that the right to own a gun has been put on the same level as freedom of speech.

Straw Man

(6,622 posts)
8. Some pretty shoddy journalism there.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 02:54 AM
Jun 2022

Weapons control in Japan goes back to the Tokugawa Era in the 17th century. Simply put, commoners were forbidden to own guns or swords. That privilege was reserved for the nobility. Commoners could own bows or spears, for hunting or to be used when conscripted for war by their feudal lords.

That was a major impetus in the development of weaponless martial arts for self-defense. Bows and spears are not particularly useful as defensive weapons. It also gave a great allure to military service in the 20th century -- the forbidden weapons were suddenly freely available to peasant conscripts.

True, the postwar US occupation of Japan did much to disarm the Japanese population, but they were only armed insofar as was required by their nation's wartime footing and the anticipated Allied invasion of Japanese mainland. The Japanese government expected the civilian population to participate in the armed defense of their homeland, and was mobilizing and arming them to that end. Needless to say, after Japan's surrender following the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, it was common sense for the occupiers to disarm the general population.

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