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kentuck

(111,079 posts)
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 09:31 AM Jun 2022

What punishment would you prefer for Trump if he is found guilty of treason?

All biases aside.


50 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Unlimited
Firing squad?
4 (8%)
A short prison sentence?
0 (0%)
Forbidden to ever run for public office again?
4 (8%)
Guillotine?
1 (2%)
Life imprisonment?
32 (64%)
A public apology?
0 (0%)
A televised hanging?
6 (12%)
Take away all his ill-gotten gains?
0 (0%)
Other?
3 (6%)
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What punishment would you prefer for Trump if he is found guilty of treason? (Original Post) kentuck Jun 2022 OP
None of these. ForgedCrank Jun 2022 #1
All of the Above. 2naSalit Jun 2022 #2
gmta n/t KarenS Jun 2022 #3
That's my vote also. FoxNewsSucks Jun 2022 #12
You win malaise Jun 2022 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Jun 2022 #27
My angry, angry heart says "execution" IngridsLittleAngel Jun 2022 #4
I would say that too but as long as he is still alive in prison a future president will doc03 Jun 2022 #24
That's a good point... IngridsLittleAngel Jun 2022 #25
But didn't his doctor say he could live 200 years? doc03 Jun 2022 #29
He did IngridsLittleAngel Jun 2022 #32
My angry, angry heart says Firing squad THE THE TRAITOR. Maybe televise it? Trueblue1968 Jun 2022 #65
All that is needed is one MAGA berserker on the jury and it will never happen. tikka Jun 2022 #5
MAGA berserkers Celerity Jun 2022 #45
That first one looks like Krispy Kreme Christy geardaddy Jun 2022 #55
How about an infallible lie detector wired directly to a high-voltage cattle probe, stuck up his ... Towlie Jun 2022 #6
You just need to plan better! 😜 dchill Jun 2022 #47
Asset forfeiture and life in GITMO HAB911 Jun 2022 #7
What? No drawn and quartered? sarisataka Jun 2022 #8
:-) kentuck Jun 2022 #9
. sarisataka Jun 2022 #10
That is too messy. Tar and fearhered abd run out of leftyladyfrommo Jun 2022 #11
What about? kentuck Jun 2022 #13
NOT BAD....CAN WE VOTE ON THAT ONE? Stuart G Jun 2022 #14
Appropriate sarisataka Jun 2022 #22
We're talking about Trump here. . . ironflange Jun 2022 #67
I like that "Man Without A Country" solution rurallib Jun 2022 #15
All of the above with one added perk solara Jun 2022 #16
Step 1: Take back all ill-gotten game from everyone in the extended family flor-de-jasmim Jun 2022 #17
The one that would hurt him the most MissMillie Jun 2022 #18
Lockup for life, DQ'd from serving in office, and assets stripped meow2u3 Jun 2022 #19
Blindfold and a cigarette in the Rose Garden at dawn. bluedigger Jun 2022 #20
life imprisonment with a lifetime gag order Novara Jun 2022 #21
Life solitary confinement empedocles Jun 2022 #23
Give him his choice: hanging, firing squad, or guillotine mnhtnbb Jun 2022 #28
Yeah, but start at the feet and work up. nt eppur_se_muova Jun 2022 #31
Other: Eternal damnation. eppur_se_muova Jun 2022 #30
Take away all the perks usually given to former presidents Retrograde Jun 2022 #33
Since there is zero chance of his being charged with treason, MineralMan Jun 2022 #34
Correct. H2O Man Jun 2022 #36
It's hard for me to believe that I was the first to point that out. MineralMan Jun 2022 #37
Treason, in the Constitution kentuck Jun 2022 #41
Right. H2O Man Jun 2022 #43
I do not think Trump will ever be charged with treason... kentuck Jun 2022 #48
Some would argue lots of things. Those arguing he committed treason would be mistaken. onenote Jun 2022 #59
Simple: DNA would reveal that he's no stud-muffin -- not the father of any of his 5 kids. nt allegorical oracle Jun 2022 #35
I want him locked in a cell nevergiveup Jun 2022 #38
"Zee garotte, M'sieu?" CTyankee Jun 2022 #39
Burning at the stake is probably out jmowreader Jun 2022 #40
not only life imprison, i want him in solitary with no visitors. Javaman Jun 2022 #42
The Mussolini departure for most of his brood. alphafemale Jun 2022 #44
Air-dropped into Kurdish territory. Efilroft Sul Jun 2022 #46
After stripping him drmeow Jun 2022 #52
Brave would be the person to remove his garments... Efilroft Sul Jun 2022 #64
Maybe just the jacket drmeow Jun 2022 #66
Dissolve Trump organization, confiscate all his properties and put him in prison. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #49
The Philip Nolan treatment NotASurfer Jun 2022 #50
Other. GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #51
Other: A viking beheading. milestogo Jun 2022 #53
No blood eagle? geardaddy Jun 2022 #56
We've been watching the same shows, I see. milestogo Jun 2022 #62
LOL geardaddy Jun 2022 #63
A pillory for about three days. lpbk2713 Jun 2022 #54
I'm making an exception contrary to my belief against the death penalty. Emile Jun 2022 #57
This until he dies: meadowlander Jun 2022 #58
Anyone who thinks he'll are charged with treason, let alone convicted, is going to be disappointed. onenote Jun 2022 #60
Barring legal conviction, Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #61
I wish he would be treated like any other citizen of the United States Mr. Ected Jun 2022 #68

ForgedCrank

(1,779 posts)
1. None of these.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 09:36 AM
Jun 2022

The absolute worst thing you could ever do to him is prohibit his name from every being spoken or referenced ever again. Take away his attention and he'll shrivel overnight.
The ass is powered by attention, and we keep giving it to him for some reason.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
12. That's my vote also.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 10:01 AM
Jun 2022

Even if some of the things might have to be done to his bloated carcass, do them all.

Response to 2naSalit (Reply #2)

 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
4. My angry, angry heart says "execution"
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 09:46 AM
Jun 2022

My brain says no.. Life in the toughest, nastiest federal prison in this country. As much as seeing him hung or executed might be fun, it'd turn him into a martyr.

Take all his assets, lock him up and let him rot - out of the public eye, forever.

doc03

(35,325 posts)
24. I would say that too but as long as he is still alive in prison a future president will
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 10:45 AM
Jun 2022

pardon him. It is nice to think about I don't think he will suffer any of the above.

 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
25. That's a good point...
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 10:47 AM
Jun 2022

My only hope there, honestly, is that if sentenced to life in prison, he won't last long there. He's 75, in terrible health, and was softer than fuck even in his youth. So if sentenced to prison, may his weight or age or piss-poor health or whatever cause it to be a short sentence.

Trueblue1968

(17,205 posts)
65. My angry, angry heart says Firing squad THE THE TRAITOR. Maybe televise it?
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 06:57 PM
Jun 2022

Lock him up in a pillory. let people throw ROTTEN stuff at him.

I would fly across the country to be able to do that.

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tikka

(762 posts)
5. All that is needed is one MAGA berserker on the jury and it will never happen.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 09:47 AM
Jun 2022

Look at the recent "Build the Wall" trial. One RWNJ caused a mistrial. Add to that the two-tier legal system and TFG's legal shenanigans.

Towlie

(5,324 posts)
6. How about an infallible lie detector wired directly to a high-voltage cattle probe, stuck up his ...
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 09:47 AM
Jun 2022

 
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Darn, I reached the 100 character limit for a post title.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
15. I like that "Man Without A Country" solution
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 10:09 AM
Jun 2022

Set him off in a boat never to be heard from nor be able to contact anyone again.

Asset forfeiture, for sure, including assets of his children and grandchildren.

solara

(3,836 posts)
16. All of the above with one added perk
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 10:14 AM
Jun 2022

Once a year for a month, for the rest of his incarcerated life, he will be stripped naked and put into a stockade next to a fruit stand, where folks can purchase tomatoes & other such foodstuff to be used to pummel him 24/7 while fulfilling one of his ongoing nightmares.

The proceeds from the fruit stand will actually go to a charity for children, representing the tens of thousands of children whose lives he has poisoned & destroyed forever.

flor-de-jasmim

(2,125 posts)
17. Step 1: Take back all ill-gotten game from everyone in the extended family
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 10:17 AM
Jun 2022

Step 2: Tarred and feathered.
Step 3: Imprisioned in a "regular" jail - no favors, no devices - or in a deprivation chamber
Step 4: No one in his extended family may ever run for office.

(I was also thinking of the head on the pike, but we wouldn't want children to see that.)

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
19. Lockup for life, DQ'd from serving in office, and assets stripped
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 10:18 AM
Jun 2022

He deserves not only the penultimate punishment (prison, DQing, and asset forfeiture), he also merits permanent infamy. No one must be allowed to praise this traitor, nor must anyone be permitted to emulate him. Just condemn his memory.

Novara

(5,840 posts)
21. life imprisonment with a lifetime gag order
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 10:32 AM
Jun 2022

Take all his assets, take all of the criminal children's assets, stick him in prison in GITMO for life with a lifetime gag order. After a while he fades into utter obscurity.

mnhtnbb

(31,383 posts)
28. Give him his choice: hanging, firing squad, or guillotine
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 10:49 AM
Jun 2022

Personally, for that ugly orange anus-mouthed treasonous sack of $hit, I'd vote for the guillotine.

eppur_se_muova

(36,259 posts)
30. Other: Eternal damnation.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 10:50 AM
Jun 2022

And I'm an atheist.

Since that's not a practical option, I'd like to force him to legally change his name to Loser McLoserFace.

Retrograde

(10,133 posts)
33. Take away all the perks usually given to former presidents
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 11:35 AM
Jun 2022

No Secret Service detail for him or Mel, no travel budget, no office budget, no health care, no pension. And put a lien on Mar-a-lago and his other assets until he pays back those facility and security debts he's accrued giving his rallies the past few years.

The only things he cares about are money and his ego, so hit him there.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
34. Since there is zero chance of his being charged with treason,
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 11:43 AM
Jun 2022

I can't say.

The crime of treason is very clearly and precisely defined in the Constitution. It's a charge that doesn't fit, actually, so he will not be charged with it.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
36. Correct.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 11:50 AM
Jun 2022

The highest charges filed thus far have to do with a conspiracy for sedition. There is no chance of Trump being charged with a higher charge, especially treason -- which, as you note, is clearly outlined in the Constitution.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
37. It's hard for me to believe that I was the first to point that out.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 11:53 AM
Jun 2022

That doesn't reassure me very much about our understanding of the Constitution, frankly.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
41. Treason, in the Constitution
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 12:13 PM
Jun 2022

Article III, Section 3, Clause 1:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
43. Right.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 12:42 PM
Jun 2022

It's important to recognize the difference between "treason" at the constitutional definition, and the common use meaning of the word. January 6 was a seditious attempt at insurrection with the aim of keeping Trump in power. Despite the fact that Biden won the election, those active in the conspiracy to keep Trump in office by force have made two things clear: they believed the election was stolen, and they were engaged in an action they believed the president wanted them to do.

I know this sounds like splitting hairs. In the common use of the word, I agree 100% it was treason. Yet they believed they were taking a patriotic action to keep the then current president in office. Their target was the two houses of Congress, to disrupt and keep them from doing their duty. Thus, they are at most being charged with a conspiracy per sedition. There is no chance that Trump can or will be charged with treason, as the head of the effort.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
48. I do not think Trump will ever be charged with treason...
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 01:07 PM
Jun 2022

Although some would argue that his actions were an act of war against our country.

onenote

(42,696 posts)
59. Some would argue lots of things. Those arguing he committed treason would be mistaken.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 04:02 PM
Jun 2022

As a few others have noted here, there is zero chance of Trump being charged with, let alone convicted of, treason.

Indeed, it is more likely than not that he won't be charged with anything relating to January 6 -- for example, while Judge David Carter (District Court Judge in California) offered his opinion (not a legal finding) that Trump likely is guilty of a felony attempt to obstruct congress -- a crime punishable by a maximum of five years -- I don't believe that charge will be brought nor could a conviction be obtained. Carter acknowledges that Trump working with Eastman to develop a legal strategy for contesting the outcome of the election can't be the basis for a criminal charge. The distinction he tries to draw between Eastman and Trump discussing legal strategy and Trump discussing the January 6 strategy of having Pence reject the certification of electors from certain states and accept alternate electors is pretty attenuated.

nevergiveup

(4,759 posts)
38. I want him locked in a cell
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 11:56 AM
Jun 2022

and fed baby food the rest of his life.......also with Rachel Maddow reruns playing 24/7

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
40. Burning at the stake is probably out
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 12:12 PM
Jun 2022

So…I’m going with “turn the second and third tiers of Alcatraz back into a prison and put Trump’s entire administration into it.” Tourists don’t get to go up there and it’d be pretty easy to keep rabid Trumpers from trying to get up there to kneel before him. The government could make big money by selling the same meals the prisoners are getting to the tourists.

Javaman

(62,517 posts)
42. not only life imprison, i want him in solitary with no visitors.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 12:20 PM
Jun 2022

I want him to suffer what many in our society have suffered from the imbalance of justice in the country.

my first thought was, hang him, but then I thought, that would make him a martyr in the eyes of morons.

better to have him waste away into the complete nothing he already is.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
49. Dissolve Trump organization, confiscate all his properties and put him in prison.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 01:12 PM
Jun 2022

That would be justice.

NotASurfer

(2,149 posts)
50. The Philip Nolan treatment
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 02:02 PM
Jun 2022

Imprisoned on a Navy vessel for the rest of his life, no news or contact with the outside world, his only interaction with men and women serving with the very honor and integrity he seeks to denigrate; always reminded he is in the custody of the country he denies but never permitted to set foot on our soil again.

Hell, that's too literary to have a shot. I'll settle for Guantanamo

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
51. Other.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 02:07 PM
Jun 2022

Take it all away from him, and let him spend the rest of his life in abject poverty. I don't care where he spends it. Prison. On the streets. Either way is fine with me.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
62. We've been watching the same shows, I see.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 04:16 PM
Jun 2022


I think the blood eagle would be gross on a heavier body. Too much back fat.

meadowlander

(4,394 posts)
58. This until he dies:
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 03:51 PM
Jun 2022


Plus total asset forfeiture and prosecution of every one of his enablers to the full extent of the law.

But I suspect that's cruel and unusual punishment for everyone stuck in there with him.

onenote

(42,696 posts)
60. Anyone who thinks he'll are charged with treason, let alone convicted, is going to be disappointed.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 04:03 PM
Jun 2022

Not going to happen.Period.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
61. Barring legal conviction,
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 04:08 PM
Jun 2022

I would settle for a stroke that leaves him paralyzed and unable to speak in a state-run convalescent home in the worst climate possible.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
68. I wish he would be treated like any other citizen of the United States
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 07:46 PM
Jun 2022

Tried for his crimes and sentenced for those for which he is found guilty according to the federal sentencing guidelines.

Given the plethora of crimes committed in his lifelong crime spree, the punishment I prefer for Trump is one long-ass federal prison sentence, political ramifications be damned.

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