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Baitball Blogger

(46,774 posts)
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 09:43 AM Jun 2022

The question I heard on MSNBC that required a change in channel.

“Has the January 6 committee already failed in its mission.” Mika B.

My God. What kind of mental warp does someone have to put themselves through to come up with such a negative statement before the hearings even begins? Technically, no one outside of the committee and their assistants have a clue where this is going. Just didn’t have time to listen to statements that were looking to undermine the hearings before it begins. If a juror talked like this during a voir dire, they would be dismissed.

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The question I heard on MSNBC that required a change in channel. (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 OP
What does she think was the mission? 867-5309. Jun 2022 #1
I'll never know. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #3
WTF? 2naSalit Jun 2022 #2
Mika TuxedoKat Jun 2022 #4
What is their mission? Is it political to influence this years election? Is it to doc03 Jun 2022 #5
Their mission is to create drama so people watch Deminpenn Jun 2022 #9
This Whole Country Is A Failure SoCalDavidS Jun 2022 #6
We talk about their obsession with the Horse Race during elections but they do that with everything JI7 Jun 2022 #7
Just like all the mass shootings, it is very unlikely that the January 6th hearings will move the JohnSJ Jun 2022 #8
If DeSantis or Trump are elected in 2024 they will have that book burnt nt doc03 Jun 2022 #11
I was just about to post about this. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #10
People in the media shouldn't be rewarded for peddling this Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #16
David Brooks. New York Times. spanone Jun 2022 #17
Is he David brooks of "The Bill Clinton witch-hunt paid my Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #19
Thank you, He's always been an asshole. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #20
I don't know how accurate those Google searches are when you enter CrispyQ Jun 2022 #12
MSM is working overtime to help the GOP TheRealNorth Jun 2022 #13
JHFC JustAnotherGen Jun 2022 #14
Mika and Joe agingdem Jun 2022 #15
They want to hear "bombshells" and see the "roof blown off." sop Jun 2022 #18
That's a Fox News type of comment, place the seeds of doubt in the public's mind. patphil Jun 2022 #21
Repubs own ALL of the networks MOMFUDSKI Jun 2022 #22
David Brooks is fairly on point though Sympthsical Jun 2022 #23
YES! I had cut and was ready to paste part of that piece. READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE, folks! CTyankee Jun 2022 #25
Fuck Brooks and the Trump voters. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #28
No one can predict these things Sympthsical Jun 2022 #29
It is never too early to begin the lie. Chainfire Jun 2022 #24
Yes Mika Mouse...the nocturnal e-mission. PCIntern Jun 2022 #26
MSNBC failed when they didn't fire the Morning Joe team years ago FakeNoose Jun 2022 #27

TuxedoKat

(3,818 posts)
4. Mika
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 09:49 AM
Jun 2022

She often asks questions that seem to denigrate Democrats, and then there is her deliberate use of "democrat party" which even Joe and Willie don't do.

doc03

(35,407 posts)
5. What is their mission? Is it political to influence this years election? Is it to
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 09:51 AM
Jun 2022

charge Trump with something and prevent him from running again? Do you think it will
accomplish either one of those goals? My opinion at this point it is for the history books.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
6. This Whole Country Is A Failure
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 09:51 AM
Jun 2022

Sadly, I don’t think the commission ever had much chance at success. Not because they didn’t achieve anything, or uncover any crimes, but because nothing was ever likely to come of it’s findings, because America has become a backwards Shithole with too many citizens who couldn’t care less. They care more about what’s happening to Johnny Depp than the fact our government almost got overthrown.

JI7

(89,281 posts)
7. We talk about their obsession with the Horse Race during elections but they do that with everything
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 09:53 AM
Jun 2022

It's almost never about just reporting what happened because it's important for people to be informed in itself.

JohnSJ

(92,481 posts)
8. Just like all the mass shootings, it is very unlikely that the January 6th hearings will move the
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 09:55 AM
Jun 2022

needle one iota.

Since 1996, fox news, has been warping the minds of people with lies and distortions. In addition, 90% of talk radio fills the airwaves with right wing ideology. Except for a very few broadcasts like Thom Hartman, we have essentially 24/7 of right wing talk radio.

Two hours of prime time will not change a thing.

That being said, it needs to be done, but the right wing outlets will not even broadcast it.


 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
10. I was just about to post about this.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 10:00 AM
Jun 2022

They were reporting on a article written by a reporter. I forget his name. The news media has to get there shit together starting today.

Writing an article, reporting about an article that says the committee has already failed is fucking treasonous.

CrispyQ

(36,546 posts)
12. I don't know how accurate those Google searches are when you enter
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 10:09 AM
Jun 2022

"How much is X worth?" but it said Brzezinski makes $8 million a year. Are you fucking kidding me?

TheRealNorth

(9,500 posts)
13. MSM is working overtime to help the GOP
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 10:22 AM
Jun 2022

AP radio news this morning had sound bites from 2 Republicans (McCarthy and Stefaniak) denigrating the commission instead of their usual 1 Republican.

JustAnotherGen

(31,979 posts)
14. JHFC
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 10:26 AM
Jun 2022

She's an idiot. As much of an idiot as Steve Kornacki with his swipes at the Democratic Candidates on Tuesday night.

agingdem

(7,869 posts)
15. Mika and Joe
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 10:27 AM
Jun 2022

Mr & Mrs Never-Trumpers are in no position to critique the J6 committee...because they hated Hillary they took their party buddy, Donald Trump, a depraved sexual predator, a know-nothing narcissistic showman sociopath, and sold him as a viable candidate...to paraphrase Marshall McLuhan.."the media (medium) becomes the message"... STFU Mika, Joe, Jonathan, Chuck, Andrea...you did this

sop

(10,274 posts)
18. They want to hear "bombshells" and see the "roof blown off."
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 10:40 AM
Jun 2022

They need to see a disheveled Donald Trump angrily barge into the hearing room, carrying an AR-15 and wearing a QAnon Shaman horned headdress, screaming "Stop the Steal" while trying to wrest the gavel from Bennie Thompson, as Liz Cheney jumps on his back and punches him in the head. If that doesn't occur within the first ten minutes, the hearing will have failed its mission: to entertain the masses.

patphil

(6,235 posts)
21. That's a Fox News type of comment, place the seeds of doubt in the public's mind.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 11:04 AM
Jun 2022

It's designed to make people think there is nothing to see and hear in these hearings.
Put the conclusion out there before the facts are given.
It's called leading the public to a predetermined conclusion.

Sympthsical

(9,146 posts)
23. David Brooks is fairly on point though
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 11:25 AM
Jun 2022

Which is the article being discussed. Particularly this part:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/08/opinion/the-jan-6-committee-has-already-blown-it.html

The core problem here is not the minutiae of who texted what to chief of staff Mark Meadows on Jan. 6 last year. The core problem is that there are millions of Americans who have three convictions: that the election was stolen, that violence is justified in order to rectify it and that the rules and norms that hold our society together don’t matter.

Those millions of Americans are out there right now. I care more about their present and future activities than about their past. Many of them are running for local office to be in a position to disrupt future elections. I’d like the committee to describe who they are, what motivates them and how much power they already have.

This is a movement, not a conspiracy. We don’t need a criminal-type investigation looking for planners or masterminds as much as we need historians and scholars and journalists to help us understand why the American Republican Party, like the Polish Law and Justice party, or the Turkish Justice and Development Party, has become a predatory semi-democratic faction.

We need a committee to explore just how close America is to rampant political violence. I had some problems with Barbara F. Walter’s recent book, “How Civil Wars Start,” but I wish all the committee members would read it if only to expand their imaginations.


The committee is already seen as a partisan exercise. It gets talked about a lot of in media and political circles, but I don't think the average citizen cares. I've never had it come up in conversation outside of political spaces. Particularly not now with the economy doing what it is doing. If it looks like a naked electoral gambit, it could actually do more harm than good. Some people think this is just like Watergate. Yeah, no. This is not the 1970s.

The main problem is that it took 18 months to get here. If actions had been taken within the first six months, it would be perceived as simple justice by most. But taking forever and timing it before a midterm has a look and feel to it. I know people love Rep. Raskin and his statements, but he often sounds like he's hyping the next Disney+ show.

I just don't think we're going to see a lot of movement out of this. Maybe some, but nowhere near the sea change people seem to think is coming. Only indictments, arrests, and trials matter in all of this. Without those, all we have are tickets to a show. And it isn't even a very interesting show. It's a show most of us saw eighteen months ago and it was written without a third act.

I would watch the hell out of an Act 3.

But we're not there. So for now, meh, I'll glance at highlights on YouTube. Political junkies will get excited about every detail, convinced this is the smoking gun that will completely damn Republicans to the abyss.

Except most people aren't political junkies. So it won't happen. Fitzmas, MuellerTime, and . . . Hearingtine's Day? I dunno. When little changes in the country on account, don't be surprised.

It's a nice exercise, but without results, it's another treadmill.

CTyankee

(63,914 posts)
25. YES! I had cut and was ready to paste part of that piece. READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE, folks!
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 11:39 AM
Jun 2022

I think Brooks is aware of what has happened to him. He has been forced to come face to face with what he and others has wrought upon the people who have been reading his stuff all along.

To Mr. Brooks I say "Who's sorry now?"

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
28. Fuck Brooks and the Trump voters.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 12:17 PM
Jun 2022

The hearings will intensify the investigations by the DOJ. The majority of the American people will want the DOJ to act and hold all those involved accountable. The hearings are just the beginning.

Sympthsical

(9,146 posts)
29. No one can predict these things
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 12:31 PM
Jun 2022

I'm making a guess based on my observations of how people generally behave and have been for the past six years.

At some point, the onus has to be on action and results materializing. I've met people throughout my life who insist Jesus is coming, just wait.

Fortunately, I am not a waiting around sort.

If something comes of all this, I will be very happily surprised. If Jesus shows up tomorrow, I will have some explaining to manage.

What I somewhat worry about is that we'll be handed two slices of bread while insistently being told, "Look at this delicious hoagie we made for you! Isn't it piled so high with meat and cheese?!" Because that sort of thing is just demoralizing.

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