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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThere is more than enough evidence already implicating
the Slobfather and his goons.
And there will be more.
That is all.
spooky3
(34,517 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,789 posts)I personally believe that there is enough evidence to bring charges against and convict TFG. This was a planned coup and there is some great evidence showing the TFG knew or should have known that the election was valid. I also believe that TFG will not dare to go to trial on a well pled federal case. If nothing else, TFG has alienated the top tier defense firm and is currently being represented by shopping center lawyers who are weak
Link to tweet
https://www.rawstory.com/jan-6-committee-s-intel-could-be-used-to-sue-trump-into-oblivion-even-if-he-isn-t-charged-with-a-crime-report/
On Wednesday, The Daily Beast reported that even if President Donald Trump is never indicted or convicted over the revelations from the January 6 Committee, it could still provide fodder for civil liability that could be used to bankrupt the former president under a mountain of litigation.
"While its doubtful the hearings will meet the sky-high expectations of those who believed the committee would expose open-and-shut wrongdoing from some of the nations top officials, the prime-time hearings will deliver one thing: evidence for many of the lawsuits seeking to make former President Donald Trump and other election denialists actually pay for the violence," reported Jose Pagliery. "'What the committee can't do is hold people accountable. But thats where criminal prosecutions and civil litigation comes in,' said Edward G. Caspar, an attorney representing injured and traumatized Capitol Police officers who are suing Trump after the violence insurrection."
As the report noted, the committee will be revealing a treasure trove of information for anyone who wants to pursue Trump civilly.
"According to the panel, it has interviewed more than 1,000 witnesses and collected at least 140,000 documents, obtained through subpoenas and delivered under oath," said the report. "Attorneys working on cases against Trump are already considering how to get that evidence in some cases, videos or interview transcripts into a form thats admissible in court for their cases. Luckily for those attorneys, the witnesses who spoke to the committee were already under oath when they testified."
"One of the attorneys on [Congressman Eric] Swalwells legal team, Phil Andonian, thinks new evidence might persuade the judge that theres a strong enough case that the Republican congressman bore some responsibility for the damage at the Capitol," said the report. "It was already known that Brooks, a Trump loyalist who peddled all kinds of disproven voter fraud claims, wore a bulletproof vest on the morning of Jan. 6 when he told riled up protesters near the White House that their ancestors had 'sacrificed their blood and sometimes their lives.'"
This are torts that may be discharged in Bankruptcy and there may be a remedy available under the KKK Act to ban TFG from holding future federal office
I am going to enjoye these civil cases
malaise
(269,254 posts)Pariah status awaits
Should be a painful 76th birthday for Slobby come Tuesday
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)I don't see the establishment putting him on trial under federal laws. The Pig might get his in state court (GA for example) but even then it will be fines or home confinement. Better to make sure the Pig can't hold office and wait him to die of natural causes.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,789 posts)TFG has alienated all of the top tier defense lawyers and is currently being represented by lawyers who office in shopping centers. These attorneys are so bad that they are fun to laugh at. I can see TFG cutting a deal for no jail time or only home confinement plus a ban from holding office if he is indicted. Such a plea would probably include an allocation by TFG that he lied about election fraud and the there was no election fraud in 2020. This type of plea would be in addition to TFG being sued into bankruptcy.
I suspect that such a plea would involve the Georgia case and the tax cases in New York. I would not be too upset with such an arrangement if TFG goes away.
Chainfire
(17,715 posts)In any case, I doubt that Trump would plea, and admit guilt. That is not Trump. His better bet would to be to go before a jury betting on the odds of their being at least one blind follower on the panel.
We must keep our eye on the larger picture. Yes, Trump is an evil SOB, and deserves to be jailed or worse, but there are evil SOBs lined up behind him to expand on his path to the destruction of Democracy. Just look at his logical successor. The D is for danger.
Trump is not on trial in the hearings beginning tonight as much as the nation is. What is being decided is will we accept a government of lies and fraud; the acquiescence to the abandonment of Democracy. After viewing the evidence, or ignoring it, as the case may be, we are going to be deciding whether we want to continue government by the people or that we would rather be led by dictators. It will be interesting to see which path we take.
Stuart G
(38,454 posts)We will all see if the committee comes through or leaves us wanting....I think it will....COME THROUG
Stuart G
(38,454 posts)Novara
(5,866 posts)Ohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohplease!