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kentuck

(111,035 posts)
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 11:03 AM Jun 2022

To make sure it never happens again?

Is that enough?

Would the Committee be a success if they were able to keep an attack and insurrection from ever happening again in our country?

Or do the people deserve more?

Should there be accountability?

What is an acceptable resolution?

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To make sure it never happens again? (Original Post) kentuck Jun 2022 OP
Nope leftieNanner Jun 2022 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #5
+1 CrispyQ Jun 2022 #7
Good Post CrispyQ leftieNanner Jun 2022 #8
I think OLDMDDEM Jun 2022 #2
The trDUMP cult and the J/6 coup d' etat need to suffer,... magicarpet Jun 2022 #3
CAN it be prevented from happening again without some serious accountability? RockRaven Jun 2022 #4
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2022 #6

leftieNanner

(15,051 posts)
1. Nope
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 11:06 AM
Jun 2022

The only way to make sure it never happens again is for the perpetrators to have genuine and painful consequences.

Prison. Bankruptcy. Loss of power and prestige. Loss of jobs.

All of the above.

Response to leftieNanner (Reply #1)

CrispyQ

(36,410 posts)
7. +1
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 11:27 AM
Jun 2022

Perfectly stated.

I wish I were confident those at the top will face serious consequences, but I'm not. I hope I'm wrong, but Bush took the country to war based on a lie & nothing was done about that. I worry our side has a reverence for the office of the presidency & somehow think that holding presidents accountable taints that office. We also have terrible fear of being accused of being partisan. What I do know is that if the shoe were on the other foot & a dem president had lied to take us to war it would have been impeachment time. If they win the House this fall, does anyone think that they won't impeach Biden? And if they win the Senate, too, Biden's toast. And then they'll come after Harris.

Every voter who turned out in 2020 better turn out this fall. And young people better get off their phones & show up.

leftieNanner

(15,051 posts)
8. Good Post CrispyQ
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 12:40 PM
Jun 2022

I think they would impeach both Biden and Harris for made up crimes, but I don't think they will ever get to 67 votes in the Senate to convict.

By holding impeachment hearings, they could pretend that they were doing something, without having to actually legislate.

OLDMDDEM

(1,567 posts)
2. I think
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 11:09 AM
Jun 2022

There needs to be accountability. Without it, people will believe they are above the law and can get away with most anything. Examples need to be set. Referrals for indictments need to be made and fingers pointed out loud at those who managed this fiasco. Call it for what it is. An attempted coup. Call o9ut names and run ads finger pointing til the election is over.

magicarpet

(14,095 posts)
3. The trDUMP cult and the J/6 coup d' etat need to suffer,...
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 11:16 AM
Jun 2022

... the consequences for having trashed our democracy. If not they will come back in the near future to perpetrate the same thing once again, but the next time much more violently.

RockRaven

(14,872 posts)
4. CAN it be prevented from happening again without some serious accountability?
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 11:20 AM
Jun 2022

If by some magic the committee is the causal agent behind it never happening again, then sure that would be a success.

But what's the hypothetical causal mechanism? Probably involves some measure of accountability, no? It is hard for me to imagine a real world (i.e. no sorcery, no miracles) situation where prevention of a repetition is totally divorced from accountability for the first incident occurring.

H2O Man

(73,476 posts)
6. Recommended.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 11:27 AM
Jun 2022

If there is not accountability, there is actually no way to insure it never happens again. Indeed, that is a basic premise taught in law enforcement: it is knowing that there is a high probability of having legal consequences -- rather than the severity of the consequence -- that is most likely to deter crime.

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