Adam Schiff also doesn't understand why Garland refuses to indict

[edhopper]

Meadows and Scavino. Says it gives license for others to ignore Congress.
On last night's Colbert.
And people wonder why some of us are frustrated.

[hamsterjill]

1. Does Adam Schiff watch Law & Order?

Because that’s what he will be accused of by some DU’ers!

We are all properly frustrated just like Rep. Schiff because we can see that nothing is getting done. Did you SEE Garland in yesterday’s press conference about the Uvalde investigation? He looks ill to me, I’m sad to say. His suit was falling off of him. Perhaps he needs to step down.

[Scrivener7]

35. Yes. Those year-and-a-half long episodes of Law & Order must be on channels I don't get.

[Diablo del sol]

2. Who the hell is this Adam Schiff?

Just another keyboard warrior?

At least that is what we hear from some of our DU “experts.”

[Solomon]

24. WTF!?

Did you forget the sarcasm thingy?

[Diablo del sol]

48. Didn't think it was needed

Trying to highlight many are frustrated with DoJ and it isn’t just the DU keyboard warriors.

[Voltaire2]

3. No shit.

Garland is useless.

[FarPoint]

6. I sense

you will eat those words....Why would anyone on the J-6 Committee revel the real game plan?

[Scrivener7]

36. So you're saying Schiff is just trolling us?

That's ... um ... interesting.

[FarPoint]

38. Not trolling " us"

the tRump minions who are trying to deny their crimes...

[Scrivener7]

41. Do you hear yourself?

[samsingh]

4. i'm worried that garland is going to run out the clock

and allow our democracy to be destroyed

[FarPoint]

7. Far from it....

It will be the biggest arrest sting in the history of the Universe.

[agingdem]

9. Yes

Meadow, Mr. Coup Central, is in a shit-ton of trouble and you can bet Meadows and Scavino are having many a sit-down with the DOJ..…and what’s more important..indicting Meadows for refusing to turn over more documents or charging him with sedition?…the J6 committee is tasked with telling “the story” of January 6…the DOJ is tasked with charging the coup brigade and that requires evidence, witnesses, law, and time…let’s see what happens after the committee hearings…

[FarPoint]

39. This is going to be a long-hot summer....

I believe this is going nuclear...a mushroom cloud for atonement for Democracy...

This is going to be a real spectacle filled with double, triple crossing, and we won't know what is flying....

a real eruption coming....for the greater good in the end....

[agingdem]

42. a reckoning, a cleanse...

we need it..the country has been wallowing in Trump and GOP filth for too long...to paraphrase Billy Joel "Trump didn't start the fire..it was always burning since the world's been turning..we Dems didn't light it, we tried to fight it..."

[samsingh]

47. i'll see it when i believe it

the mueller report was supposed to get trump in trouble. Everyone was saying mueller knows the truth and will be relentless in pursuing it. Nothing happened. The new ag in NYC was supposed to bring trump to justice. he dismissed the case.

thousands of people get massacred by guns - no action by the justice department. One threat to a republican supreme court appointee and all the rules are expected to be changed.

There is no justice when republicans are concerned. If a Democrat so much as litters, right after a republican throws down garbage, then jail terms are called for for the Democrat immediately.

[Baked Potato]

34. Agreed.

[FarPoint]

5. I think he is throwing bait to tRumpers...

Give the illusion of Garland being off the grid.

[Novara]

14. Could be ...

... and if so, it'd pretty embarrassing that some on the left are falling for it.

[GoCubsGo]

17. I think it's more of a show of independence.

They are trying to not give Republicans any excuse to be able to claim that the J6 committee is in cahoots with the DOJ They are two separate investigations, and they need to stay that way. Schiff may or may not know what Garland is up to, and if he does, he's not about to let on.

[Novara]

20. That's also a good point

If he looks frustrated with the DOJ, then it's clear the DOJ isn't doing the J6's bidding.

Independence. Just like it should be.

[FarPoint]

30. great point...

[867-5309.]

18. 5-D Chess!

I feel better.

[Scrivener7]

37. Wow. That's a positively Q-ish conclusion. Trust the plan, eh?

Heading to Dealey Plaza, are we?

[Autumn]

8. What does Adam Schiff know, he has no clue what's going on. Why does he hate Democrats?

[FarPoint]

10. Would you like to expand upon that claim

That Adam hates Democrats? I don't know where your claim originates?

[Gore1FL]

12. I understood the sarcasm emoji to be that user's explanation. nt

[Autumn]

13. Would you like to look at my post?

There is a emoji. This is the definition of by the Google’s English dictionary provided for Oxford Language

sar·casm
/ˈsärˌkazəm/

noun
noun: sarcasm; plural noun: sarcasms
the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.
"his voice, hardened by sarcasm, could not hide his resentment"
Similar:
derision
mockery
ridicule
satire
irony
scorn
sneering

I hope that helps.

[hamsterjill]

25. Good grief!

Sometimes, there simply are no words for replies to posts!

SMH…

[FarPoint]

32. Yea....

The attitude reflects road rage on line.

[bigtree]

22. he knows DOJ shares details and explanations about their investigations with individual congressmen

...because they think that conflict of interest will help them prosecute these cases in court.

/s

[Autumn]

50. That must be why he doesn't understand.

[bigtree]

51. no, this is why

1-7.001 - Purpose

The Department of Justice (DOJ) Confidentiality and Media Contacts Policy (the Policy) applies to all DOJ personnel, including employees, contractors, detailees, and task force partners.

The Policy governs the protection and release of information that DOJ personnel obtain in the course of their work, and it balances four primary interests: (1) an individual’s right to a fair trial or adjudicative proceeding; (2) an individual’s interest in privacy; (3) the government’s ability to administer justice and promote public safety; and (4) the right of the public to have access to information about the Department of Justice.

The Policy provides internal guidance only and does not create any rights enforceable in law or otherwise. DOJ components may promulgate more specific policies, consistent with and subject to this Policy.


7.100 – General Need for Confidentiality

Much of DOJ’s work involves non-public, sensitive matters. Disseminating non-public, sensitive information about DOJ matters could violate federal laws, employee non-disclosure agreements, and individual privacy rights; put a witness or law enforcement officer in danger; jeopardize an investigation or case; prejudice the rights of a defendant; or unfairly damage the reputation of a person.

DOJ personnel should presume that non-public, sensitive information obtained in connection with work is protected from disclosure, except as needed to fulfill official duties of DOJ personnel, and as allowed by court order, statutory or regulatory prescription, or case law and rules governing criminal and civil discovery. Other than as necessary to fulfill DOJ official duties, disclosure of such information to anyone, including to family members, friends, or even colleagues, is prohibited and could lead to disciplinary action. Unauthorized disclosures of sensitive personal or proprietary information could lead to criminal prosecution or administrative action.


https://www.justice.gov/jm/jm-1-7000-media-relations#1-7.111

(nothing in there about exceptions for sharing information about their ongoing investigations and prosecutions with congressmen)

I used this symbol (/s) in the other post to indicate sarcasm.

[Autumn]

54. So why would a former prosecutor, one who has served as a U.S. representative since 2001

doesn't understand why Garland refuses to indict Meadows and Scavino? If that guy is concerned so am I.
As for myself, when I am being sarcastic I use the sarcasm emoji, as I did in my original post in the sub thread. They are big colorful and easy to see. If one bothers to look at the post.

[bigtree]

55. he has different priorities

...he's a legislator, and Garland oversees prosecutors.

[Autumn]

56. He also works to protect the American people and our democracy. For the last 21 years.

[bigtree]

57. not disputing anything like that

...just pointing out that there is both an institutional separation between the two branches, and there's an operational one, as well.

Link to tweet

[edhopper]

60. Why haven't they interviewed the same people?

And no they haven’t. It's been reported

[Gore1FL]

11. I am sure there will be a number of DUers calling his office to set him straight.

They obviously have a better line on this than him, right?

[Effete Snob]

15. He needs to join DU to be told what's what

[SoCalDavidS]

16. There Are Many Here On DU Who Will Tell Him These Things Take Time

It's only a matter of time before TFG and all his cronies are indicted and then put behind bars.

Obviously Mr. Schiff doesn't know how it works.

[fightforfreedom]

21. Maybe Garland doesn't agree with Schiff and has a good reason why.

He just can't express his reason why, yet.

[SoCalDavidS]

26. We Shall See

If you're right, we'll find out at some point.

But eventually, if nothing happens, you'll have to admit that we're Fucked as a nation.

I still hope you're right, but until then, I'm sticking with my belief that America is Fucked, and there are people who are Above The Law.

[fightforfreedom]

29. If nothing at all happens to Meadows in the future you will be right.

He was the dam command center for the coup. He is guilty as hell. It would be the end of the rule of law in America and our democracy.

[edhopper]

43. Congress referred to the DOJ

Congress has stated they are in contempt. Garland has chosen to ignore a violation of the law. This is something a Republican AG would do.

[bigtree]

19. you mean people outside of that investigation griping about things they can't possibly know about?

..yeah, it's frustrating.

This is the same Congress that refused to invoke inherent contempt to enforce their OWN subpoenas, well before Jan. 6 and beyond.

One branch is charged with informing, as they'll do in splendid form tonight. The other is charged with successfully prosecuting cases in court.

Meadows and Schavio are threatened with much more than contempt over documents and communications which DOJ may not even be able to get or use in court, even if contempt is charged.

They are compoundedly threatened with felonies to be proven in court from existing evidence DOJ has obtained through other sources, including from the Navarro contempt arrest which has been misdescribed by some as a mere piffle.

Stands to reason, though, that Schiff isn't the only one clueless about DOJ's investigation.

[edhopper]

44. Hah!

Adam Schiff knows nothing! You are so much more informed. What a laff. This is a Congressional referral for contempt that the DOJ is ignoring.

[bigtree]

46. the info both Schiff and DOJ want is likely to be denied in any contempt proceeding

...they have no more chance of getting those 'privileged' conversations with Trump than Congress had.

A contempt proceeding won't change that fact. The material would be tied up all the way to the SC which, now with even with a less conservative majority, has rejected similar claims in the past.

Arresting these perps for lesser crimes isn't what contempt charges are designed for. They are to compel testimony and the release of info, like in the Navarro arrest. His documents weren't considered privileged by the courts and the DOJ arrest was a fruitful exercise of justice, mainly because of the evidence they obtained was not bound by claims of privilege, and can be used against Meadows and others for something more than a misdemeanor.

But do go on about how much Schiff knows about the DOJ's priorities in their ongoing investigation.

[edhopper]

49. I can't wait for your post in 2026

about how the DOJ investigation is rounding the corner.

[bigtree]

53. no, you must be right

'Adam Schiff also doesn't understand why Garland refuses to indict'

No, he doesn't.

[Novara]

23. Would you rather Meadows and Sciavino be given a parking ticket ...

...or prosecuted for murder?

That's the difference between the contempt charge and the much more serious crimes that they will be charged with.

Would you rather throw the book at them both now and ensure you never get the evidence implicating the orange motherfucker in the coup, or make a deal to not prosecute this charge in order to ensure their cooperation?

[SoCalDavidS]

27. What If It's Neither A Parking Ticket Or A Prosecution For Murder?

And why should having a Contempt charge impact whether they cooperate?

I remain extremely skeptical that either are providing ANY evidence or information. I'll gladly admit how wrong I was if it's determined that they are, but I still believe they will never suffer any consequences for failing to testify. Not so much as a parking ticket.

[Novara]

28. there are a lot of reasons

"And why should having a Contempt charge impact whether they cooperate?"

If the DOJ agrees not to prosecute them for contempt in exchange for their cooperation in nailing others.

They are implicated in much larger and more serious crimes than contempt. And both started off cooperating until they stopped. That shows at least a bit of willingness to cooperate. And it illustrated how they are different cases than Navarro, who stuck his middle finger up at the committee from the start.

Why would the DOJ go for the jugular and cut off the possibility that they will cooperate if they are not prosecuted for contempt?

Would you rather see these two nailed for contempt and never learn firsthand how high up this conspiracy goes?

Think outside the box. It's not black or white.

[Scrivener7]

40. If they violated parking laws AND committed a murder, how about both?

[Silent3]

45. +1 n/t

[Baked Potato]

33. I think Adam Schiff is expertly juking the various perps,

to include Rat King.

[gulliver]

52. +1

[DemocraticPatriot]

58. When these hearings are finished, I don't see how Garland can refuse

to bring charges against Donald Trump...

[edhopper]

59. I wish that were true

I fear it is not.

[DemocraticPatriot]

61. The story is not over, yet.

Perhaps there should be more public pressure from rank and file Americans, on the justice department...

I haven't emailed them yet. I suppose I should.

[edhopper]

62. You think you have more clout

Than the President?

[DemocraticPatriot]

63. NO....... However, if it is necessary, I pray

that the president will "whisper into the ear" of his attorney general,
that the 'rule of law' demands prosecutions,
and if the present AG will not perform them,
President Joe Biden will find someone who will....

[edhopper]

64. The last part

Might be necessary