Sen. Chris Murphy: Raising the age to buy AR-15-style rifles is off the table in gun-control talks

[In It to Win It]

Business Insider via Yahoo News

Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut confirmed to CNN on Thursday morning that raising the federal age to purchase AR-15-style semiautomatic rifles to 21 is off the table in Senate gun-control talks.

Murphy, the Democrat leading the negotiations in conjunction with Republican Sen. John Cornyn of Texas, framed the shift as one of the compromises that will be needed to get at least 10 Republican votes, given the obstacle of the filibuster.

The compromise, Murphy explained, would be adding "additional scrutiny" to 18- to 21-year-olds looking to buy a weapon like the AR-15, though he stopped short of specifying that some sort of waiting period would replace raising the age.

"I think we continue to try to find a path to 60 votes that includes some provision that recognizes these 18- to 21-year-olds tend to be the mass shooters, and that many times, they have juvenile criminal records or past histories of mental health that should prohibit them from buying a weapon," Murphy said, adding he thinks there is some Republican support for raising the age, but not enough to meet the 60-vote threshold to clear the filibuster.

[JT45242]

1. Mission accomplished by the Rethugs -- delay then kill

The delay tactic of portraying themselves open to bipartisan reform and then killing everything after people get tired of the latest crisis is in effect as predicted.

Nothing will change -- the (R)'s count on people forgetting about this come November because their allies in teh corporate (especially in oil and gas) willsee to it that greedflation will be rampant that they will blame on the Do-Nothing Democrtas who controlled congress and did nothing to help you with the price of high gasoline, high natural gas, and other high prices.

They will count on the sheeple to ignore the fact that the (R)'s blocked literally every effort to do something. Likely, theywill be right.

Our nation is doomed.

Maybe a job for me will open up in New Zealand or some other functioning democracy.

[brush]

2. Forget raising the age limit, they should be banned altogether...

except for military and police.

[Bleacher Creature]

8. I'd support raising the age to 100.

[AngryOldDem]

23. Now that would make too damn much sense.

[sarisataka]

3. So we're not going to raise the age

Expanded background checks were already dismissed, red flag laws may be encouraged...

Well I had low expectations so I can't say I'm surprised

[Kaleva]

28. I don't think this proposal set a minimum age to buy from a private seller

[Elwood P Dowd]

4. Most of us knew this was going to be a total waste of time.

The repukes idea of negotiations is basically give them 99% of what they want, and they will give you 1 %. When you don't go for it, they will be in front of every news microphone in the country saying they tried to negotiate, but the Democrats wanted to destroy the 2d amendment.

[Bettie]

15. Correction, they will pretend they will give you 1%

but back out at the last second. Then, they'll get those microphones in front of them and talk about how Dems refused to negotiate!

[GoodRaisin]

31. And then the news cycle is about move on

as J6 hearings blanket the networks and media focus. Murders of children will be pushed down to a whimper and not a single thing changed, again, as usual, waiting for the next Republican induced gun murders to take more innocent lives.

[Mad_Machine76]

5. If even THAT is off

What's ON?!

[TheRealNorth]

6. The Democrats should then introduce each restriction as a separate bill....

And let the public see what they stand against.

[Novara]

10. That's a damn good idea.

No R is EVER going to vote for any gun restriction anyway.

Let them vote down a bill to ban assault weapons.

Let them vote down a bill to expand background checks.

Let them vote down a bill to raise the age of owning certain guns.

Let them vote down a bill to expand mental health services.

Let them vote down a bill to reduce the size of magazines.

Let them vote down a bill to eliminate semi-automatics.

Let them vote down each and every suggestion they can come up with to try to stop the massacres. Then make campaign ads out of all of it.

[global1]

11. K&R +1000...nt

[Bettie]

16. Except they never have to vote anything down in the Senate

They just send an email noting that they are filibustering the bills and it never even comes to the floor.

[sarisataka]

20. I had posted something similar a few days ago

Don't send 8, just one. Show those who will not accept even the smallest bill.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216766150

[fightforfreedom]

7. The Republicans are going to do very little or nothing.

The Democrats must make this a big issue in the coming elections. Along with abortion and the attempted coup.

[BannonsLiver]

9. As I predicted nothing will happen

Not. One. Thing.

Special shout out to our idiot founders who created a system that fosters minority rule which has basically destroyed the country.

[lindysalsagal]

12. I adore sen M, but he's wasting his breath.

At this point, they'll only vote for more gunz.

[krawhitham]

13. Anything that will help is off the table, this is nothing but a trap

1st) It will give the GQP something that they can claim as a win going into the 2022 election, "See we are not evil we support gun control, you can still vote for us"

2nd) After this law does nothing to stop gun violence the GQP will claim "See we tried it your way and it doesn't work, the only thing that works is MORE GUNS. Vote for us, only the GQP knows how to fix this"

[gldstwmn]

14. Half measures ain't gonna cut it.

We need to continue to pursue a ban.

[BarackTheVote]

17. Ugh. Saw Murphy on The View a few days ago

he went on about how we can’t “let the perfect be the enemy of the good,” and “neither side will get everything they want.” Just stop, it’s embarrassing. Any compromise with the GOP will be a big old flabby nothing. It’s been said a million times, but if they aren’t moved by 19 children blown to shreds, then they won’t be moved by anything. The only way forward is getting more Democrats in the Senate, and giving Republicans cover like this ISN’T helping that goal.

[BlueJac]

18. No vote for protecting US Supreme Court justices.

Let them deal with the same mess as average Americans!

[roamer65]

19. +1000

[kacekwl]

21. BULLSHIT.

BULLSHIT. I knew this would happen. Damn them all.

[AngryOldDem]

22. Then, really, what's the point?

Especially when these guns have been the weapons of choice?

Sorry, but the damn filibuster has got to go. It’s like being held hostage.

[BlueIdaho]

24. Gun Control in Name Only

By the time they get done, this will boil down to a bunch of meaningless platitudes and a non-binding “order” directing each state to look into gun regulation actions they can live with.

This is bullshit and every Democrat negotiating this deal should see it for what it is - a total waste of time giving the GQP cover to say “they tried.”

[Vinca]

25. So it's not "gun control" it's "GOP control." I've had it. Somehow we must get a supermajority

in the government to finally get rid of these weapons of war on the streets of our cities and towns.

[budkin]

26. We have to get these MFers out of office

Especially the GOP Senators

[UTUSN]

27. Why did MURPHY "beg on knees" & Turtle demands "by sunset"?

[Kaleva]

29. This proposal wouldn't have addressed private sales to minors

from what I can tell.

There is no federal law prohibiting minors from owning AR-15s

[Emile]

30. Republicans more concerned about second amendment rights of mass murderers

than the life's of innocent school children.

[IcyPeas]

32. silly me. I actually thought raising the age to 21 might actually be the one thing they might've ag

agreed to. It would've been the least they could do.