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Jeff Tiedrich & Michael Beschloss on Liz Cheney (Original Post) highplainsdem Jun 2022 OP
Agreed. 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2022 #1
Well said, Jeff T! Rt💖TY! Cha Jun 2022 #2
She's against an out and out coup MadameButterfly Jun 2022 #3
yup Skittles Jun 2022 #6
Hey, don't forget, even a broken clock is right, twice a day. calimary Jun 2022 #8
Yes, but a slow clock will only be right once in a while. House of Roberts Jun 2022 #9
Depends. If it's a 24 hour time system Abolishinist Jun 2022 #15
It is refreshing though, in the era of the former, Abolishinist Jun 2022 #13
Liz sees the patients taking over the asylum Skittles Jun 2022 #14
I disagree. At some point it was not, at least in her way of thinking, Abolishinist Jun 2022 #16
I'll put it another way Skittles Jun 2022 #17
The only problem with having 3 or more strong parties, we need to amend the Constitution Dysfunctional Jun 2022 #20
Well, there's that to contend with. Abolishinist Jun 2022 #28
I think she might be more concerned wnylib Jun 2022 #25
I agree LiberalFighter Jun 2022 #4
Couple of bookends. dchill Jun 2022 #5
She is a damn American.....she loves her Country, she loves what she got elected for..... a kennedy Jun 2022 #7
Liz Chaney EARNED the JFK Profile in Courage summer_in_TX Jun 2022 #10
I agree. And let's not minimize the personal risk by talking mostly about the political, highplainsdem Jun 2022 #18
I overlooked the physical danger she is in. summer_in_TX Jun 2022 #26
I agree 100% Hulk Jun 2022 #11
Daddy said though, "I'd do it all over again, wouldn't change a thing". Period. He built it! czarjak Jun 2022 #12
The world has gone mad. ejbr Jun 2022 #19
If she hadn't publicly and articulately gone after trump where would she be? One housecat Jun 2022 #21
She is a small "d" democrat. That's really a low bar for an American elected official. Marcuse Jun 2022 #22
Cheney is undoubtedly a Cheney... Tommy Carcetti Jun 2022 #23
It's like she's the person in book club you always disagree with nuxvomica Jun 2022 #24
Cheney vs. Trump is the new Hatfield vs. McCoy Blue Owl Jun 2022 #27

MadameButterfly

(1,036 posts)
3. She's against an out and out coup
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 09:18 PM
Jun 2022

but opposes voting rights and supports tax cuts for the rich, and everything else that is putting into power the people behind the coup.
Which is one reason Republicans taking her stand are so rare. If you really want a democracy, you'd have left the Republican party a while ago.

Another reason is cowardice and seflishness, and she at least can claim courage and prinicple over self and for that we have to give her credit.

House of Roberts

(5,162 posts)
9. Yes, but a slow clock will only be right once in a while.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 10:09 PM
Jun 2022

It all depends on how slow it runs. Most Republicans are slow clocks.

Abolishinist

(1,286 posts)
13. It is refreshing though, in the era of the former,
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:00 AM
Jun 2022

to find one so prominent who is willing to put country over party. Let's face it, for the most part we have a two-party system. Personally I would prefer 5 or 6, I think more would be interested in politics if the political ideologies were better defined, more narrow so to speak. However, this is not the case. We need two viable parties... she represents the 'other' but at least she not only acknowledges but defends the rule of law when it comes to a peaceful transfer of power.

Abolishinist

(1,286 posts)
16. I disagree. At some point it was not, at least in her way of thinking,
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:49 AM
Jun 2022

an 'asylum'. I may not agree with 90% of what she or her elk stand for, but at least with her there is the potential for a conversation. I much prefer an intelligent debate to the dead-end street talks with the likes of Gym Jordan. IMO, this is how a democracy should function.

Skittles

(153,113 posts)
17. I'll put it another way
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 01:01 AM
Jun 2022

Last edited Fri Jun 10, 2022, 01:43 AM - Edit history (1)

Liz doesn't like the direction she sees the GOP heading........but the OLD GOP stunk it up too, just not as much (or I should say, they weren't as OBVIOUS with their racism, misogyny, xenophobia, etc)

 

Dysfunctional

(452 posts)
20. The only problem with having 3 or more strong parties, we need to amend the Constitution
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 11:20 AM
Jun 2022

or else there is a strong possibility that Congress will decide who the president and vice-president are.

Abolishinist

(1,286 posts)
28. Well, there's that to contend with.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 01:22 AM
Jun 2022

At times I think I'd prefer a parliamentary system but in the end, unless we have a monarchy with me in charge, we're doomed!

wnylib

(21,340 posts)
25. I think she might be more concerned
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 02:58 PM
Jun 2022

about saving her party than the country. If she can discredit the Trumpists, there is a chance that the Cheney and Bush families can return to party leadership.

But, in the process, her stance against Trumpism also benefits the nation.

a kennedy

(29,615 posts)
7. She is a damn American.....she loves her Country, she loves what she got elected for.....
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 09:41 PM
Jun 2022

and she CAN NOT BELIEVE WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6th.

summer_in_TX

(2,710 posts)
10. Liz Chaney EARNED the JFK Profile in Courage
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 10:59 PM
Jun 2022

she recently received.

Her poise, organization, and clarity in her questioning was excellent. Her unwavering voice for the truth of the Insurrection has helped many Americans understand. Her voice on the committee cannot be understated.

She is paying a political and personal price for her standing up against Trump and for the truth.

I disagree with almost every policy position she holds, but I greatly admire her courage, her faithfulness to her oath of office, and patriotism.

I’m not voting for her to hold elected office ever, but I am grateful for her service to our country.

highplainsdem

(48,910 posts)
18. I agree. And let's not minimize the personal risk by talking mostly about the political,
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 08:40 AM
Jun 2022

though the political was certainly on display yesteday with RWers all over Twitter calling for her to be "banished" from the GOP.

It's a certainty, given the craziness and bloodthirstiness of many Trump supporters, that some individuals and maybe some small groups are convinced she should suffer worse than political banishment.

We saw a woman standing against her political party and doing a cool and devastatingly effective indictment of Trump and those who aided his insane attempt at a coup.

The RWNJs that Liz Cheney has to worry most about saw a woman painting a larger and larger target on herself.

I hope she has really good security wherever she goes.

summer_in_TX

(2,710 posts)
26. I overlooked the physical danger she is in.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 05:29 PM
Jun 2022

You are very right, highplainsdem. What courage in the face of all that.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
11. I agree 100%
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 11:04 PM
Jun 2022

Her father needed to be tried as a war criminal...and she is 100% gop...but at least she has some courage and patriotism...which is more than ALL the other repuKKKes combined.

housecat

(3,121 posts)
21. If she hadn't publicly and articulately gone after trump where would she be? One
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 11:52 AM
Jun 2022

representative from Wyoming isn't material for headlines, unless she does something risky and, in this case, making history. She might help to compensate a little bit for her evil father; she clearly thumbed her nose at what is left of her party; and she already has made a name for herself. I think she is doing an admirable job defending Democracy. Cheney is still a republican, buy she is definitely not stupid.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,153 posts)
23. Cheney is undoubtedly a Cheney...
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 01:19 PM
Jun 2022

...and that family name will always have a great stain on it due to what went down in Iraq. And even though you could argue against the whole "sins of the father" take, I somehow think if she were Vice President at that time, she'd probably make the same decision as her father.

So yes, Cheney is a Cheney.

But...

Cheney is also an American.

And for that simple fact and that fact alone, I am grateful.

nuxvomica

(12,409 posts)
24. It's like she's the person in book club you always disagree with
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 02:32 PM
Jun 2022

But you both agree, nonetheless, on having a book club.

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