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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWell, THAT DID NOT DISAPPOINT!!!
The hearing was even more comprehensive and coherent than I'd hoped it would be!
Red Mountain
(1,730 posts)it's going to be a crazy week
Ohio Joe
(21,751 posts)Bennie was magnificent Just wow
Blue Owl
(50,349 posts)💙💛
Excellent first session
ecstatic
(32,681 posts)Thank God they didn't mince words tonight. They exposed tfg as the f*cking criminal thug he is.
ShazzieB
(16,368 posts)No punches were pulled as far as his involvement is concerned, which I found VERY enjoyable!
madamesilverspurs
(15,800 posts)the tip of an iceberg sounds like.
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Turbineguy
(37,317 posts)Some nice new information. They put the turd in Garland's pocket. Maybe as part of trump's "unprecedented" administration, he'll go to jail.
calimary
(81,210 posts)C_U_L8R
(44,997 posts)I expect each subsequent session will compound the damning evidence against these traitors. The world is watching... and hopefully everyone at DOJ.
50 Shades Of Blue
(9,975 posts)vapor2
(1,244 posts)Her testimony was chilling and yes, her grandfather would be proud of her!
Mr.Bill
(24,280 posts)Just imagine the personal risk being taken by anyone who testifies here.
Takket
(21,558 posts)you don't just slap this sort of presentation together in five minutes. Thompson and Cheney very methodically stepped through every piece of evidence, they had all the clips queued up and playing immediately, no time wasted, no technical snafus or blunders. It was seamless and articulate, and that is very important. because even truthful information can be dismissed if it is presented in a sloppy and/or incoherent manner.
And do not underestimate the importance of the committee giving Cheney a starring role in this event. It gives the hearings absolute unquestionable legitimacy.
"It gives the hearings absolute unquestionable legitimacy."
Absolutely!
That was a brilliant move by the committee to give Cheney the spotlight. She did not disappoint one iota.
I hope she has a lot of protection because there will be people who will want to harm her for the stance she's taken. Very courageous of her.
Catherine Vincent
(34,488 posts)They know who her dad is.
calimary
(81,210 posts)onetexan
(13,036 posts)I certainly hope she & the others on the panel h ave protection.
Deminpenn
(15,278 posts)I thought I caught a glimpse of him sitting in one of the front rows.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)One brilliant move. Even if Liz loses the election,( I do not think she will because there are deep pockets in that group. I bet Democrats will vote for the one Representative in Wyoming.
H2O Man
(73,534 posts)I think we were treated to something historic. I was extremely impressed. I expect each hearing will dig deeper.
calimary
(81,210 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 9, 2022, 11:32 PM - Edit history (1)
Anyone know when the one after that is scheduled?
IS there a schedule of further hearings?
H2O Man
(73,534 posts)Monday June 13 10 am
Wednesday June 15 10 am
Thursday 16 10 am
Tuesday June 21 10 am
Thursday June 23 8pm Final.
sheshe2
(83,737 posts)That is all I got.
Lochloosa
(16,063 posts)Monday June 13 10 am
Wednesday June 15 10 am
Thursday 16 10 am
Tuesday June 21 10 am
Thursday June 23 8pm Final.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Lochloosa
(16,063 posts)Monday June 13 10 am
Wednesday June 15 10 am
Thursday 16 10 am
Tuesday June 21 10 am
Thursday June 23 8pm Final.
Lochloosa
(16,063 posts)Monday June 13 10 am
Wednesday June 15 10 am
Thursday 16 10 am
Tuesday June 21 10 am
Thursday June 23 8pm Final.
calimary
(81,210 posts)Thank you, btw!
Lochloosa
(16,063 posts)calimary
(81,210 posts)I kinda assumed so, since I looked at the start time of Thursday and how I knew it was way earlier here on the West Coast than the time given.
Also if they say 7pm start, that probably has to be Eastern time, because if it were starting at 7pm here in the West, thatd be 10pm Eastern and I doubt theyd hold a hearing that late!
So an 8pm start time Id say would have to be 8pm Eastern time.
But I always wanna make sure!
highplainsdem
(48,966 posts)Novara
(5,840 posts)But I had no idea it would be this well done.
Paladin
(28,252 posts)I figured it would be good---but not that good.
I hope that lame-ass David Brooks of the NYT is eating every word of that advance trashing he delivered regarding the hearings, a few days ago.
underpants
(182,767 posts)Just my observation
Ohio Joe
(21,751 posts)And he had his journalist hat on
What he saw, what he heard and what he filmed. That is it.
Edit-Sorry, meant to reply to the poster you replied to
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)Hes a journalist and a foreign national who never intended or expected to be testifying to the J6 Committee on live, prime time US TV.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)I think he is because his filming of the events was excellent and unbiased. Very professional!
Catherine Vincent
(34,488 posts)doc03
(35,325 posts)well done rehash of the second impeachment. That won't be popular here but that is the way I viewed it.
yellowdogintexas
(22,250 posts)each will focus on a different aspect
Tonight was just the "Opening Arguments"
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)in opening? Can't wait
doc03
(35,325 posts)motivate people to watch at 10am. It was we will have more at a later date, but I didn't hear any really new
information I haven't already heard every time I turn on MSNBC.
calimary
(81,210 posts)doc03
(35,325 posts)something like a video of a meeting with Roger stone, Trump and the Leaders of the Proud Boys and
Oath Keepers. There was any surprising new information. I will try and watch the other hearings but
so far, I don't expect any more than we already know.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Now all you have to do is copy and paste this into an email to the senate committee:
I was so unimpressed. You gave the audience nothing that hasnt already been on msnbc.
Please add some flying monkeys and a montage of trump memes from the internet. A guest psychic would be nice. Please have Adele sing the Star Spangled Banner in the beginning. Maybe Kim k or one of her sisters to close out.
Thnx so much!
Doc03 from DU
Youre welcome!
ShazzieB
(16,368 posts)2Gingersnaps
(1,000 posts)I kind of saw it like Stephen Colbert's description of the Nuthin burger the corporate media predicted. That burger was juicy. Well done tight presentation that certainly got the attention of yet unindicted conspirator #1. Three things stood out to me.
1. Bill Barr and Gen. Milley-Barr with "bullshit" and Milley describing calls for protection from Pence, and being stood down by Trump via Meadows. Not sure how the R's get to blame Nancy or Schumer.
2. Vanky. Yes, she IS truly his daughter, she threw him under the bus before he did her. In his hissy fits on Truth Social this morning he copy and pasted his post employeed performance on Barr from the one he did on Jeff Sessions at great length, but threw in a "She was checked out and did not see the election data."
3. Jared Kushner was so busy working hard on pardons that he found Pat Cipollone "whiny" concerning the coup in progress.
And among the things we already knew, FOX was/is a coconspirator. Even Kayleigh McEnanny with Sean-
"1 - no more stolen election talk," Fox News host Sean Hannity texted McEnany, according to the records. "2- Yes, impeachment and the 25th amendment are real and many people will quit."
"Love that. Thank you. That is the playbook. I will help reinforce....," McEnany replied, per the documents."
Shouldn't Putin be paying Rupert Murdoch for programming TuKKKer?
skamaria
(329 posts)Pluvious
(4,308 posts)And this was certainly one of them !
Deminpenn
(15,278 posts)Americans who are casual news consumers, not cable news junkies and don't know many of the nitty-gritty details.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(10,429 posts)New footage, but those of us who have followed this already knew these basics.
I just hope it got through to some of the inattentive public. Maybe if it gets good coverage in tomorrow's newspapers and morning TV shows.
MOMFUDSKI
(5,496 posts)the fact that they will show a 7-step plan.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)Much like a clip show episode on a TV series before the finale.
I don't think it's an accident that this coincides with the Indictments of the Proud Boys leaders and the gubernatorial candidate in Michigan. I think the goal was to remind the public of how we got here and what we've found. I suspect we are about to get more big name indictments. There is a dot (or dots) between President Trump and the Proud Boys/Oath Keepers leadership. Bannon? Stone? Lindell? Don't know, but I suspect we may be about to learn.
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)This first hearing was meant for general consumption, not for people (like DUers) who have followed every detail from day one.
You have to set-up the backstory before proceeding with the details.
We political junkies sometimes forget that there were people watching tonight who were shaking their heads and saying, "I had no idea all of this had happened."
PatSeg
(47,398 posts)And would explain why I wasn't blown away like I had expected. I already knew much of what I'd heard, though in bits and pieces. It is good to see all those pieces brought together in one coherent chronological narrative. I often forget that many Americans only know 1/6 from a random series of sound bites and brief video clips.
Pluvious
(4,308 posts)Context is everything
And most Americans have been a bit distracted the last 16 months
( unlike many of us, echo chamber denizens )
paleotn
(17,911 posts)Did anyone notice Ivanka's eyes in the short clip of her testimony? Her mannerisms? A friend of mine with experience in interrogation told me she appeared to be scared shitless. She was way off her normal baseline. So was Kushner, but in different ways I couldn't even pick up on. Interesting.
Mr.Bill
(24,280 posts)Kushner's eyebrows move slightly.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,429 posts)vanlassie
(5,669 posts)Ghoulish.
rubbersole
(6,685 posts)...somebody is going to be called a loser. You know that pissed him off. Haha,hehe
calimary
(81,210 posts)Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)It may turn out to be a boatload of unpaid bills, legal fees, and court dates.
Mopar151
(9,979 posts)Who the money really belongs to. Wants no part of those piranahs!
ShazzieB
(16,368 posts)She and Jared have tons of money. They could probably buy and sell dear old dad!
Deminpenn
(15,278 posts)The white background did neither any favors while she seemed too close to the camera and he was leaning backwards. Both looked exceedingly uncomfortable.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)require high quality production. It's just the way it's done, I believe. However they can get these folks in a room and answering questions is good enough.
GP6971
(31,134 posts)Patton French
(754 posts)ChazInAz
(2,564 posts)They went straight for TDFG's wattled throat.
Too bad we don't have any flies on the walls of Mar a Lago.
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spanone
(135,819 posts)Initech
(100,063 posts)And all those who supported and enabled this!
slightlv
(2,787 posts)I'm still trying to catch my breath!
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)vanlassie
(5,669 posts)This was for general consumption. We were not going to be that surprised, though there will be surprises.
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)whats the goal here?
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)relayerbob
(6,544 posts)babylonsister
(171,056 posts)stuff together. I liked the big screen and the way it was coordinated. And most importantly, the content.
Very impressed.
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)Grumpy Old Guy
(3,158 posts)Knocked it out of the park.
towerbum
(263 posts)Mme. Defarge
(8,027 posts)after following this discussion yesterday - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216777771
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Yeah, us political junkies have been on this riot since it happened, but a lot of people are being reminded of what happened or learning of it for the first time. The riot footage was compelling, the timeline on the clips was a really good touch, and I don't think we'll hear that "tour group" bullshit again anytime soon.
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)... the "tour group" folks asked point-blank to name another time when a bunch of tourists did what was done on January 6th.
"This isn't a memory test, and we realize you might not recall the exact date, sir. But if you could even name the month and year - or even the season of the year - when the Capitol was breached, attacked, and overrun by unruly tourists, that would be sufficient."
Joinfortmill
(14,416 posts)CottonBear
(21,596 posts)It was incredibly impressive and compelling.
MyMission
(1,849 posts)I don't watch any TV, but I've seen a few reality TV shows, as well as investigative news shows over the years. I watched on PBS live feed, and I was very impressed.
When I saw this thread i thought about how 45 has a huge fan base who love reality TV. I hope a good number of them will watch the "shows". They're gullible, and might be convinced that he wasn't acting in the best interest of the country.
The GOPQ is a mess, and there's a core of evangelicals and right wing nuts who will always support him. But there are some who can be swayed, who didn't want to acknowledge the severity of 1/6 but might become truly patriotic after hearing and seeing the testimonies. There are also a bunch of unaffiliated voters and Democrats who might be convinced or riled up as to how important it is to vote, to make sure that 45 and his minions don't gain control again. And hopefully the evidence presented will lead to many charges and convictions.
I'm off Monday and look forward to watching the next installment live.
madaboutharry
(40,207 posts)This country can not heal and recover from the horror of the Trump atrocity until he is in prison.
calimary
(81,210 posts)I don't know if this will crack that open, much as I was pleased with what I saw.
One can always hope that at least some of 'em will wake up...
TomSlick
(11,096 posts)I was in a meeting out-of-town during the hearing. I listened to the MSNBC analysis for an hour on the way home. It sounded good but it was MSNBC.
I don't see many naysayers above - and there are always naysayers. My take from the overwhelming enthusiasm is that the hearing went well.
Deminpenn
(15,278 posts)Nora O'Donnell and her crew seemed genuinely disturbed by the evidence presented during the halftime recess and post-game recap. Same with David Muir on ABC and Tapper's CNN panel.
TomSlick
(11,096 posts)It's good to hear the positions from the major networks.
onecaliberal
(32,822 posts)PatrickforB
(14,570 posts)Finally, the truth is coming out IN PRIME TIME.
Skittles
(153,147 posts)great reading
JohnnyRingo
(18,624 posts)Only once did they ask how much longer.
Good thing there was a smoke break.
C Moon
(12,212 posts)Plus, I can't believe that news station played the event. That is great to hear.
This is a major event in U.S. history.
MerryBlooms
(11,766 posts)They know every pos that asked for a pardon. Name them I'm fed up with the cat and mouse game. Fuckin Done.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)Cause such awful destruction of friend and family ties.
Those relationships may never heal.
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The Wizard
(12,541 posts)opening statement that will lead to the prosecution and indictment of the criminal Trump. The problem is getting 12 jurors to convict. All Trump needs is one of twelve to escape justice.
Ligyron
(7,627 posts)Benny and Liz were perfect. You can tell Liz wants her party back and out of the hands of mad men.
There actually was some new stuff and they really tied the whole insurrection to Trump. If they can get an audio feed of him plotting w the rebel scum in that hotel the night before the coup attempt
then DOJ will have no choice but to charge him.
We shall see as the hearings progress.
Deminpenn
(15,278 posts)The PBs and Oathkeepers were definitely there to implement a plan of attack. The video of them meeting in the parking garage - shades of Watergate - is good circumstantial evidence of coordination and conspiracy.
I think these groups and Trumpers both used each other to accomplish their different objectives. The rws really do want another civil war; Trump just wanted to retain power. But the common act was an insurrection to achieve each desired outcome.
homegirl
(1,428 posts)what the participants in the orange hats and orange arm bands had in their backpacks??
dalton99a
(81,450 posts)A Backpack Full of Axes and a Wooden Table Leg: Jan. 6 Rioter Was Armed to the Teeth
The FBI says Timothy Desjardins attacked multiple police officers with a broken table leg and carried a backpack that was later discovered to contain three axes
homegirl
(1,428 posts)...and others probably had similar, and more lethal objects!
RealGuyinChicago
(64 posts)Im voting for the party that didnt send a lynch mob into the Capitol.
Upthevibe
(8,035 posts)I was crying when I heard Officer Edwards testifying....
I thought it was absolutely pitch perfect....
Upthevibe
(8,035 posts)I was crying when I heard Officer Edwards testifying....
I thought the entire hearing was absolutely pitch perfect....
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)I sent a message to my best friend that I was going to try and keep my expectations low. The hearing exceeded anything I would have expected.
I was shocked, angry, surprised and thrilled all at once!
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)NO MAGATS yelling and screaming over on another to get their talking points out first.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)has earned my respect with regard to her fidelity to our Republic, and our Constitution.