My blood is boiling

[Dr. Jack]

Even before the first round of January 6th hearings we all knew what happened already. Part of me hoped that it wasn’t as bad as it seemed though. I don’t want to be able to say “see, we were right, Trump and his supporters are fascist scum”. I wish Donald Trump wasn’t a bad person and I hoped that it was all handwringing on the part of the left or baseless conspiracy theories meant to hurt the GOP. Of course that isn’t the case. A Republican President tried to stay in power despite legitimately losing reelection and a large portion of the GOP was onboard with his plan, even if it meant sending ultra right wing militias to murder members of Congress and the Vice President.

The harsh reality is, Donald Trump is exactly as bad as we always knew he was and the Republicans at best are extreme cowards who went along with his fascist plans to overthrow the American government. Will there ever be accountability? I have no idea but what I can tell you is this, the Republican Party is dead to me. I don’t care what they have to say, I don’t care what their “News” outlets are rambling about, I don’t care which candidates they run for which office, I don’t care what they say about the Democrats or what their ideas are or what “their side of the story” is, I am done listening to all of it. Their party and their members are morally bankrupt traitors and nothing more.

For the rest of my days, even if I live for another 100 years, I will never vote for a single Republican for any office or listen to what any Republican has to say. They are exactly who we knew they were. They are fascist scum. I’m done with them.

[yardwork]

1. Good. I've been at that point since the Reagan administration.

Welcome!

[Dr. Jack]

4. The older I get, the less liberal I have become

But the Democrats are the only party I will ever support. I don’t care if I don’t agree with the hardcore base on many things, I consider myself a Democrat and only a Democrat because they are the only political party that cares about the values of this country. The choice is between the Democrats and the abyss. I choose the Democrats.

[Joinfortmill]

22. Me too.

[gab13by13]

25. Define liberal,

loosening restrictions on corporations is liberal, allowing rich people to pay no federal taxes is liberal, abolishing Glass/Steagall is liberal to financial institutions.

The word liberal applies to both the rich and the poor, not just to the poor.

[NewHendoLib]

29. Really? I just get more liberal. And I started very liberal.

[mzmolly]

40. I'm the opposite. I've always voted Dem

but am more politically liberal with age.

[2Gingersnaps]

11. Same here.

The party of Lincoln, Teddy, and Ike is dead. Ike didn't think much of Nixon either.

Reagan and Trump were the inevitable conclusion of Nixon being pardoned and not paying for his crimes. And not for nothing, the Supreme Court is dismantling the Constitution as we have known it. Prescient words from Barry Goldwater:

“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.”

[Joinfortmill]

21. Yup. We're there now.

[csziggy]

17. I've been at that point since the Nixon administration

And every single Republican since has confirmed my distrust of Republicans and their methods.

[Joinfortmill]

23. 👍

[Emile]

2. Republicans are not conservative, they are the fascist party. My WW2 dad

is rolling over in his grave!

[2Gingersnaps]

12. Exactly! Thank you!

And your Dad too.

[czarjak]

13. My daddy and six uncles.

[PatSeg]

37. My very political republican father as well

He would be mortified, though he never fully recovered from Nixon.

[rubbersole]

3. Don't hold back. n/t

[OLDMDDEM]

5. I agree with you

I have family in that group. Sadly, we have to see each other once in a while. I just don't want to have anything to do with the Repugs.

[hlthe2b]

6. Looking at that new footage of the insurrection, I find I have a very visceral reaction to the women

or at least the most strident and obnoxious of the women in the crowd. Of course, they are all BEYOND deplorable violent traitors, but the worst of the women in that crowd incite a feeling of revulsion that I can't shake. I am female so maybe my gender contributes to that, but... UGGGH.

[Walleye]

9. Same here. Cannot describe the feeling I get seen those women

All that we went through so women could achieve some of our rights. They are only too happy to throw it away for the approval of vicious dishonest men

[appalachiablue]

10. That struck me as well, the hellfire women.

[2Gingersnaps]

14. Stockholm Syndrome for God's sake.

Like Log Cabin Republicans, Women For Trump, Blacks for Trump, or a black/Cuban leading a white supremacist organization like Proud Boys (Tarrio).

FFS Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA, was explaining to "cuteservatives" young conservative females that Kyle Rittenhouse was a role model of the kind of guy they should desire to cozy up to "because he was a man willing to protect them." "They need to make babies."

That's right cheerleaders, skip college, get pregnant by this guy so when your shit job doesn't cover your rent, medical bills, or child care, and the loser on the couch isn't getting donations he pleads for to cover his legal bills on FOX and OANN-you're stuck and will have a helluva time finding a way out.

[MLAA]

15. +1

[sop]

34. If these incels get laid, they might not need all those AR-15s.

[Backseat Driver]

42. There's actually no such thing as "Stockholm Syndrome"

Should its lack of inclusion in the recognized book of diagnosis codes be indicative that all the theories of its occurrence be considered yet more misinformation?

Disorder of limbic system? The fatal flaw(s) of imaginative literature?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

[msfiddlestix]

18. same here. everything you said. thank you... n/t

[Earth-shine]

7. Some people are just born republican, by family or geography.

They might see their party as flawed, but they won't leave it.

They might not even like the party, but they are taught to hate the Democratic party.

[YoshidaYui]

16. The Justice Department needs to act soon

on Donald Trump. He may not be armed, but he certainly invites chaos where ever he goes.

[Wounded Bear]

19. Hard not to be severely pissed off...

at what trump attempted and at the repubs covering for it.

[Joinfortmill]

20. Me too. May they all rot in prison.

[CaptainTruth]

24. I'm with you. I've given up on the Republican party.

They don't want to "make America great," they want to destroy America.

[no_hypocrisy]

26. Learn from history.

Hitler more or less got away with his Munich Putsch. He was technically sentenced to jail, but it was more of a luxury accommodation where he dictated his memoir Mein Kampf to his secretary.

As we all know, Hitler returned with a vengeance.

We can't let that happen with Trump.

[Justice matters.]

38. It CAN happen here.

So it MUST NOT happen here!

https://i.insider.com/61257077de5f560019e895d4?format=jpeg


Someone knows if the DOJ got that asshole arrested and charged yet?

[llashram]

27. my first vote was

72...never thought to vote for a republican, even for a dogcatcher.

[llmart]

28. +1

K&R and I agree with your excellent post.

I am old enough to have known people in my life who identified as Republican and who I never dismissed because of their party affiliation. However, these days I cannot have anything to do with anybody who still remains stridently a Republican. I do think that there are probably quite a few who are now going to have to keep the fact that they are Republicans secret or they will start telling people they are "Independents".

[Warpy]

30. Boiling blood is no good

When I watched the Watergate hearings, my blood was not boiling. I was in a city with a lefty press, so we already knew what was going to happen in the hearings. Oh, there were a few odd bits and pieces left out, but that was because the tapes weren't released to the public. When they were decades later, those bits and pieces were confirmed. Nixon was hateful scum. Republicans were still decent enough to impeach him and I even voted for Ed Booke (the only R ever, the D was an antiabortion freak).

So I've been done with Republicans since about 1973, although I knew they were wrong about everything when I was a little kid.

Nixon wasn't nearly as bad as TFG (that fucking grifter). He'd signed OSHA and the EPA into law, along with creating a war on drugs/human behavior aimed at hippies, college kids, and POC while militarizing the cops to get around Posse Comitatus. His evil lives on long after him, and OSHA and the EPA have been weakened. Shakespeare was right about that.

The thing is that we don't need to watch those hearings, we already knew what went on, who most of the organizers were, how it was organized, and how far up the chain it went. The only thing we don't know is who funded it. We know where the money went. We just don't know how it got there and I seriously doubt that will come out in these hearings. A billionaire or ten might get hurt.

There is no need for boiling blood. These hearings are not for us. They are for the people out there in TV land who don't read DU, just like the Watergate hearings were for Middle America, which lacked a lefty press. Those worked. These will too. Take a walk, listen to music, lower your stress level. What we know about TFG and the people around him will soon be impossible for anyone to ignore.

[FakeNoose]

31. My friend, I felt the same way as you - after Nixon!

I was just reaching the age where I was old enough to vote. In the 1972 presidential election I voted for the first time, and I already hated Nixon for extending the Vietnam War even though he had promised he would end it. That's how he got elected in 1968, and the Vietnam War was still in full play by '72. (If Nixon hadn't resigned in disgrace, it probably would have gone on even longer.)

THEN Watergate happened - even though the hearings weren't until 2 years later, we already had the news of the Watergate break-in during the summer of 1972. Woodward and Bernstein were publishing their stories and pursuing the evil stench of the Repukes before the election, but it seemed like nobody was paying attention. I did! I was already onto the Repukes' lying, their schemes, their greed and grift. I vowed that I'd never vote for a Repuke, and since '72 I never have.

Yes they are as you say - morally bankrupt traitors! Now in 2022 it's even worse than it was in 1976, and it will never get better.

[Snackshack]

32. Welcome to the club.

The GOP has been doing all it can since 2000 and before to hurt America and cause anger in the citizens so that they can win an election. They can’t win on issues because they have none but they can win by causing chaos and discontent. Hitler came to power in the same way an economic catastrophe basically put him in power. Over the last 20yrs the GOP has let one disaster after another occur on their watch. 9/11, 2 Wars, Torture, Global Financial collapse, Katrina, Obstruction across the board…then the GOP gave us DT after trying to give us Palin. The GOP knew exactly how bad DT was from the allegations by numerous women of sexual assault, the financial fraud he was accused of, his pedophile friends…all of it and they still gave him their support even though GOP Senators were saying things like “DT will destroys us and we will have deserved it”…

Now here we are after the last 20+ years of the GOP trying to do all it can to be a permanent majority it decided an overthrow of the government was a good idea by using supporters to attack congress and delay the election certification while their bought and paid for Supreme Court justices appoint DT to a 2nd term.

…and this is AFTER DT & rest of GOP through either incompetence or criminal negligence in responding to a virus they knew was deadly but lied about let over 1 Million Americans die.

Yes- I will never forgive the GOP for what it has done. It long ago departed governance by informed decision making, compromise and maturity and has decided chaos is it’s best chance for the permanent majority they want. When in reality the GOP should be labeled a terrorist org and dealt with accordingly.

[bringthePaine]

33. ha beat ya to it👍😬

[Jarqui]

35. They've been pulling this garbage my whole life

Trump is a distraction.
The fuckers - the enablers of Trump, Nixon, Reagan Iran Contra, etc - that are messing with this democracy need to be held to account.

[Initech]

36. Conservatives went to extremely dark new places during the Trump years.

And by dark, I mean mass shootings, public executions, and martial law dark. The things that Q Anon loves. And for that reason I can never in good conscious vote for any of them ever again.

[Upthevibe]

39. Dr. Jack. I read through all of the posts before I wanted to respond to your post.

I think that in many cases people do become more conservative as they progress in years so I get where you're coming from. I've actually become more liberal - much more so- because I've become more knowledgeable.

My very first vote at 18 was for Jimmy Carter. For the next election, my brother (who started out progressive) became more conservative as he become more immersed in being a corporate man. He was 10 years older than I and he used the Republican talking point "are you better off now than you were four years ago" line. Well, of course I wasn't because of the economy, the energy shortage, and of course the hostage situation in Iran.....so I effing voted for Reagan I was 22 years old.

The only other Republican I've ever voted for since then was for Los Angeles Mayor Richard Reardon in 1993. I thought he did an excellent job getting the city back on track after the '94 Northridge Earthquake. He was also a moderate.

Moderate Republicans are long gone (as we know)- There's no such thing. Adam Kissinger isn't running for office again, and Liz Cheney will be lose her primary... and she's FAR from a "moderate" Republican anyway. I mean all you need to do is look as her voting record - my understanding is that it's pretty bad.

[ReluctanceTango]

41. Congratulations on reaching peak reality.

I’m one of the lucky ones, I’ve never not known that the GQP were evil. My grandmother, despite having 5 kids and another on the way, worked her rear off to get FDR elected in Texas, then re-elected. My mom was a JFK girl. They raised me to be a Democrat. From birth.

I was helping with a mailing for Bobby Kennedy’s 1968 campaign when I was 6 years old. I wanted to help, because I liked how he talked about not being mean to black people and helping the poor. I may not have had much sophistication with those issues at 6, but I knew he was right about those things. I wanted somebody like him to be president, and I cried my little heart out when I heard he was killed.

I never got less liberal as the years went by, and I have never, not once voted anything but Democratic. I’ve never voted for the fascist party, and I never will.

Born a Democrat, and I’ll die one.

[ymetca]

44. Now if we could just get

the blue dogs off their "Republican Lite" assess, it'd be a great start towards rolling back the corporate takeover of America.

I, for one, am sick and tired of the Money is God Moloch that thinks it can own everything.

It's way past the time to throw the lenders out of our Temple of Democracy.

[NCLefty]

45. I swore off Republicans in the 90s when I was first able to vote. Some drag queens at a gay bar told

me they were the biggest gay-haters of all. And they were right. I have a perfect track record of voting D, unless I accidentally voted for a judge or something where they didn't list the party. 😁

[Ferrets are Cool]

46. I guess I am the antithesis of the OP. I DID want to say "see we were right".

I KNEW they were fascist scum. I KNEW he was a bad person. And, I will NEVER vote for a repug since 1988.

[Tommymac]

50. Righteous Rant.

#GOTV2022