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Fox News is more fragile than you think. (Original Post) Swede Jun 2022 OP
Propaganda against democracy in the US in mass media is undermining the pillars of our government. The Wielding Truth Jun 2022 #1
So you get rid of Fox News durablend Jun 2022 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #5
With yA Traildogbob Jun 2022 #11
Agreed! CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #14
Yes, Mr. Evil Jun 2022 #24
That makes the cult more marginalized and SMALLER. Good thing. Wet blanket much? Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2022 #8
+1 CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #15
++ llashram Jun 2022 #25
this is not llashram Jun 2022 #23
They already *ARE* instrigent watch Pravda ... er uh FAUX NewZ. OAN isn't going to double it uponit7771 Jun 2022 #29
The Murdochs can afford it edhopper Jun 2022 #3
Amazing. Fox soaks every cable subscriber $2/month. Even if you don't watch fox. erronis Jun 2022 #17
That's a good reason to quit cable or satellite. hunter Jun 2022 #18
Maybe various regulatory authorities could do something about this DBoon Jun 2022 #28
But they won't edhopper Jun 2022 #32
Cable tv in it's current iteration is MOST of the problem. jaxexpat Jun 2022 #26
I just want a way to shut off the incessant advertising. hydrolastic Jun 2022 #33
+1, uponit7771 Jun 2022 #30
My opinion Congress must revisit laws on truth, broadcast licenses, public and private bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #6
need broadcast license equivalents for Jerry2144 Jun 2022 #7
Yes. Now. Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #10
++ llashram Jun 2022 #27
+1, or at least the industry needs a standard and kick FAUX NewZ out of journalistic circles. uponit7771 Jun 2022 #31
Constitution anyone? onenote Jun 2022 #35
The 1A seems not to matter to some here, unless it fits their view, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2022 #36
Then we better damn do it. NOW. Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #9
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2022 #12
Signed up for https://checkmyads.org! This works! Do it! n/t KatK Jun 2022 #13
Count me in!!! CaptainTruth Jun 2022 #16
Just signed up Wild blueberry Jun 2022 #19
I signed up! Sent my first email to Yahoo. TeamProg Jun 2022 #20
Republicans have also pushed the Fox ethos into mainstream media. Lonestarblue Jun 2022 #21
Like the majority of GOP members and politicians FOX lies at all times. Ford_Prefect Jun 2022 #22
Fox News is not particularly fragile onenote Jun 2022 #34

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
1. Propaganda against democracy in the US in mass media is undermining the pillars of our government.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 09:17 AM
Jun 2022

It must not be allowed to continue to corrupt our country.

durablend

(7,460 posts)
2. So you get rid of Fox News
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 09:19 AM
Jun 2022

Then the cult goes somewhere else (OAN, Newsmax) and becomes more instringent.

Not saying this isn't an important thing but the lemmings aren't suddenly going to be more enlightened even with them off the map. They don't want to be.

Response to durablend (Reply #2)

Traildogbob

(8,711 posts)
11. With yA
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 11:04 AM
Jun 2022

Sat TV dropped OAN, take the biggest guy down in a fight. Their followers run. I not for doing nothing like GQP on guns. Try everything. The country is worth it. Visit VA Hospital or military cemetery on any day, a tell yourself let’s do nothing because…….🤬 we are in a war right here on our ground this time. Against Half the government and 2/3 of its cult all under the guidance of Fux et al. And this time the reason is more obvious than reasons given to so many soldiers that died and are severely disabled in every war since WWII.
Never thought I would see other Major media spin outlets going after the Fux and it’s spin offs, but that is ramping up. Let the cancer spread at and it will consume us all.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
14. Agreed!
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 11:19 AM
Jun 2022

This idea that we shouldn’t do something because they will find another avenue is not helpful.

Mr. Evil

(2,839 posts)
24. Yes,
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:07 PM
Jun 2022

make them exhaust more and more time trying to find another avenue until they end up at a dead end facing a brick wall.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
23. this is not
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:07 PM
Jun 2022

helpful. Every avenue the trump cultists go down must be barricaded against their mob. Turned back and the leaders and foot soldiers, proud boys-oath keepers-0 percenters must be jailed for a long time for sedition.

edhopper

(33,561 posts)
3. The Murdochs can afford it
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 09:20 AM
Jun 2022

Fox News was always a propaganda outlet, not a profit center.
And they get most of their money from the $2 per cable subscriber, they don't need the advertising.

erronis

(15,224 posts)
17. Amazing. Fox soaks every cable subscriber $2/month. Even if you don't watch fox.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 11:34 AM
Jun 2022
https://unfoxmycablebox.com/

Fox News makes approximately $1.8 billion per year from hidden subscriber fees–twice as much as CNN and three times as much as MSNBC.1

The network's extra-high fees, which make up most of its revenue, protect Fox News from the advertisers that are quickly abandoning it.2

DBoon

(22,354 posts)
28. Maybe various regulatory authorities could do something about this
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 08:46 PM
Jun 2022

Implement a content neutral way to ban this practice

jaxexpat

(6,818 posts)
26. Cable tv in it's current iteration is MOST of the problem.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:14 PM
Jun 2022

The scheme by which it's fees are allocated has infected the common sense consumers are supposedly famous for. Infected with the notoriously lackadaisical malaise and resignation mirrored in the programming of which it's constructed. 24/7 "news" is an abomination. Fox is merely that reality's most prominent example.

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
4. My opinion Congress must revisit laws on truth, broadcast licenses, public and private
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 09:28 AM
Jun 2022

I keep saying it, but fraud is the issue. Fraud is the basis for many crimes, and many laws are written to punish various kinds of fraud, public and private. Embezzlement, product liability to name two. Somehow the private use of cable tv escaped the regulation that public broadcast licenses are held to. Fraud is a public nuisance. It creates profits but it also creates civil strife, and it damages public trust. I think Congress needs to grow a pair and get a grip.

Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #4)

Jerry2144

(2,096 posts)
7. need broadcast license equivalents for
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 10:47 AM
Jun 2022

Cable/satellite stations. Right now cable-only stations don't need to follow all the same rules as over-the-air. It's why you can hear certain words and see nudity on cable channels but never on KABC, KNBC, or KCBS

onenote

(42,688 posts)
35. Constitution anyone?
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 09:18 AM
Jun 2022

The fundamental difference between cable and broadcast is that the former is a subscription service. If broad regulation of content on cable is consistent with the Constitution, then so too would be broad regulation of content on the print media and on the Internet -- including sites like DU.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,362 posts)
36. The 1A seems not to matter to some here, unless it fits their view,
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 09:27 AM
Jun 2022

no matter how many times you and others have pointed this out.

Lonestarblue

(9,968 posts)
21. Republicans have also pushed the Fox ethos into mainstream media.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:01 PM
Jun 2022

The Washington Post has been far more critical of Biden and Democrats since Sally Buzbee became executive editor. That change has been commented on numerous times by regular readers. Not long ago, they started publishing opinion pieces by Jason Willick, a former Wall Street Journal writer who seems to be auditioning for Fox. Today he has a price equating protests against the Supreme Court to the January 6 attack. His conspiracy theory is that Democrats are pulling off a coup against the Supreme Court. He thinks nonviolent protests are the same as insurrection!

That WaPo published his right-wing conspiracies is discouraging to say the least. The piece was blasted in the comments, but his lies are still put there to support conspiracies about Democrats. If I’m not against publishing alternative views that at least have some basis in fact, but publishing conspiracies is too far for a newspaper I once respected. If I could find a way to still read some of their saner opinion writers like E. J. Dionne, Eugene Robinson, and Jennifer Rubin, I would cancel my subscription.

Ford_Prefect

(7,878 posts)
22. Like the majority of GOP members and politicians FOX lies at all times.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:06 PM
Jun 2022

IMHO FOX and the GOP should both be burned to the ground, and salt spread over the ashes.

onenote

(42,688 posts)
34. Fox News is not particularly fragile
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 09:11 AM
Jun 2022

As much as I'd like to see Fox News obliterated, a campaign to reduce advertising on FoxNews.com -- which is all the campaign described in the OP is seeking to do -- isn't much of a threat to Fox or Fox News. I have no problem with folks going after advertising on FoxNews.com, but no one should expect it to have much of an impact on Fox or the Fox News channel.

For the year ending June 30, 2021, FOX Corporation reported total revenues of 12.9 billion dollars. The single biggest generator of revenue was advertising on its broadcast stations and network (nearly 4.1 billion). Second biggest was affiliated fees on its cable networks (around 4 billion). Third biggest was affiliate fees from the broadcast stations (2.4 billion). Advertising on its cable networks was only 1.34 billion, and that's for all of its cable networks, including not just Fox News, but its sports networks, Fox Business Channel, etc. etc. Its also not clear that ad revenue from foxnews. com is even included in that total.

In all likelihood, the revenue from online ad sales probably is a pimple on Fox's swollen butt. It might even be a loss leader. So, as stated, going after fox's online ad sales is a noble cause, Fox isn't so "fragile' that it will cause them any real pain.

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