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Bennie Thompson appreciation thread (Original Post) Ohio Joe Jun 2022 OP
K & R malaise Jun 2022 #1
I agree OLDMDDEM Jun 2022 #2
He has done an excellent job. kentuck Jun 2022 #3
Yes. BlueGreenLady Jun 2022 #4
Yes, I was very pleased with his chairmanship. Haggard Celine Jun 2022 #5
And, he's easy on the ears. GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #6
I got in trouble last night for calling him "folksy"!!! LOL hamsterjill Jun 2022 #9
Wow XanaDUer2 Jun 2022 #11
Yep. hamsterjill Jun 2022 #13
Bwahahaha! XanaDUer2 Jun 2022 #14
Senator Sam Ervin was as folksy as you could get during the Senate Watergate Hearings in 1973 MerryHolidays Jun 2022 #17
Racist? Get real. The folksy comment was positive and in no way offensive housecat Jun 2022 #29
Calling a Black man slow, when ya think about it, does sound... brush Jun 2022 #54
Which is why it nattered a bit at me AND I don't know hj well enough... electric_blue68 Jun 2022 #65
I hope it was used unknowingly. Makes you wonder. brush Jun 2022 #71
Hopefully so. I'm often trying to learn ever more nuances in various ways. electric_blue68 Jun 2022 #73
I liked StarfishSaver electric_blue68 Jun 2022 #66
Did not realize that he is gone (from these pages, that is) question everything Jun 2022 #69
Um, I believe you said... electric_blue68 Jun 2022 #15
Yes I did. hamsterjill Jun 2022 #20
Absolutely you are entitled to your opinion. How else could be have an intelligent debate? housecat Jun 2022 #25
Yes... electric_blue68 Jun 2022 #27
Because it was of no consequence. hamsterjill Jun 2022 #31
"This kind of stuff is divisive" Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #37
Oh my. You went there. brush Jun 2022 #75
TY Exactly.. and it's "alright to have Cha Jun 2022 #62
You used stereotypical language in your shallow critique of the man jcgoldie Jun 2022 #32
It wasn't a mistake. hamsterjill Jun 2022 #35
Everyones entitled to their opinion jcgoldie Jun 2022 #38
If you don't know that calling a Black man slow... brush Jun 2022 #76
I did not call a Black man slow. hamsterjill Jun 2022 #84
Not buying it. Anyone on this site should know better. brush Jun 2022 #85
what kind llashram Jun 2022 #34
I called her Liz Cheney. hamsterjill Jun 2022 #36
okay llashram Jun 2022 #39
Just a small note - it's Rep. Cheney. calimary Jun 2022 #46
okay llashram Jun 2022 #94
I didn't find him slow so much as perhaps moonscape Jun 2022 #41
Ahhh...you might consider that as chairman he... brush Jun 2022 #74
Well, speaking of slow... Montauk6 Jul 2022 #95
I heard that folksy quality too, and it was charming housecat Jun 2022 #22
A lot of people happen to like it. hamsterjill Jun 2022 #33
I missed that. GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #23
IMO the folksy drawl is not the issue, calling a Black man... brush Jun 2022 #77
Agreed housecat Jun 2022 #21
He did a fine job but Disaffected Jun 2022 #57
Yes, a fair amount of African Americans pronounce it that way. 👍 electric_blue68 Jun 2022 #67
A number of White southerners as well Retrograde Jun 2022 #78
Interesting. Almost all the people I know who use have been African American .... electric_blue68 Jun 2022 #79
It's part of African-American vernacular. Elessar Zappa Jun 2022 #68
Linguistics from African languages happy feet Jun 2022 #87
Oh, yes! EndlessWire Jun 2022 #64
Yes, and it was obvious, to me at least, that he shared a big part... brush Jun 2022 #7
Good move to let Rep Cheney wnylib Jun 2022 #51
And she did a great job. That was riveting TV. brush Jun 2022 #52
Yes, she did well. wnylib Jun 2022 #56
K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2022 #8
K & R! His opening statement shown like a beacon for the ages. 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2022 #10
Kudos, Chairman Thompson! electric_blue68 Jun 2022 #12
He's not showy and he's not full of anger Novara Jun 2022 #16
Totally agree! Lars39 Jun 2022 #18
👏👏👏👏. nt okaawhatever Jun 2022 #19
It's obvious why Nancy Pelosi chose him to head the commission. lamp_shade Jun 2022 #24
Thank you for this thread! ohmeohmy Jun 2022 #26
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2022 #28
He was awesome Just_Vote_Dem Jun 2022 #30
I liked his delivery. MuseRider Jun 2022 #40
"Quiet firmness" is a great description. electric_blue68 Jun 2022 #70
Thank you, Bennie. RobertDevereaux Jun 2022 #42
K&R! gademocrat7 Jun 2022 #43
Thank you, Rep Bennie Thompson! crickets Jun 2022 #44
Nicely put housecat Jun 2022 #60
K&R pazzyanne Jun 2022 #45
Yes indeed! calimary Jun 2022 #47
Yes!!! CaptainTruth Jun 2022 #48
Talks Softly but Carries a Big Stick! magicksmom Jun 2022 #49
We loved Bennie! I was glad to have a Southern accent in the lead. Perhaps some Southerners Karadeniz Jun 2022 #50
He was pitch perfect..... Upthevibe Jun 2022 #53
I think he's doing a great job FakeNoose Jun 2022 #55
Bennie's name will definitely be one that school children/teens will forever learn in American BComplex Jun 2022 #58
Thanks Mr Thompson RANDYWILDMAN Jun 2022 #59
Absolutely. housecat Jun 2022 #61
The Chairman Did a Great Job DET Jun 2022 #63
Bennie was great!!! spanone Jun 2022 #72
He did his job perfectly. Sucha NastyWoman Jun 2022 #80
Kudos for Chairman Bennie Thompson! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2022 #81
KNR niyad Jun 2022 #82
He's doing an excellent job wendyb-NC Jun 2022 #83
K&R and as a note - Liz Cheney is the VICE CHAIR of the J6 Committee BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #86
He was very good bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #88
And yet there are people who thought him unintelligent tavernier Jun 2022 #90
I'd call that a colloquialism bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #91
I have since looked it up and it appears that it's perfectly acceptable tavernier Jun 2022 #92
I was not familiar with Congressman Thompson... Mozeltov Cocktail Jun 2022 #89
Representative Bennie Thompson deserves our heartfelt thanks. LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2022 #93

Haggard Celine

(16,845 posts)
5. Yes, I was very pleased with his chairmanship.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 11:53 AM
Jun 2022

He's the perfect man for that job. I also would like to thank Speaker Pelosi for putting him in position. To both of them!

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
9. I got in trouble last night for calling him "folksy"!!! LOL
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:00 PM
Jun 2022

I stated a differing opinion using that word to describe my opinion. I had to laugh at the responses. Some posters take things way too seriously!!!

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
13. Yep.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:04 PM
Jun 2022

It was implied that I was a racist because I said I didn’t like this man’s delivery because it was folksy and slow.

It felt like StarfishSaver had risen from the dead!!! LOL

MerryHolidays

(7,715 posts)
17. Senator Sam Ervin was as folksy as you could get during the Senate Watergate Hearings in 1973
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:11 PM
Jun 2022

He was also a Harvard Law graduate.

He won a huge following of admirers for his work on Watergate and his down-to-earth style. There is absolutely nothing racist about being folksy. If it is genuine, it really can help to communicate to a much wider range of people.

By contrast, that buffoon Senator J. Kennedy from Louisiana is a complete fake. He is extremely well-educated, but his mannerisms are all faked.

I think that's what Rep. Thompson (and Sen. Ervin) are/were: down-to-earth people who can communicate with anyone. That's what's needed.

brush

(53,777 posts)
54. Calling a Black man slow, when ya think about it, does sound...
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 02:42 PM
Jun 2022

kinda racist. I mean he's a long-time rep. and chairman of a super important committee and obviously qualified, and you called him slow. That translates to many as calling him dumb. What were you thinking?

Speaker Pelosi certainly doesn't agree as she appointed him chairman.

electric_blue68

(14,891 posts)
65. Which is why it nattered a bit at me AND I don't know hj well enough...
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 07:43 PM
Jun 2022

to have a full let alone half an idea of who she is.

Ive only been here 2 yrs barely 4 days, and have interacted wirh just so many people, so many times depending on my interests, and concerns depending on their posts, etc. 🙂

But certain more typical words besides the most blatent ones do have additional negative meanings depending on how, and whom they are used, and sometimes used unknowningly.

electric_blue68

(14,891 posts)
15. Um, I believe you said...
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:08 PM
Jun 2022

"slow, and folksy"

Bc when I listened to some later I thought -
'oh, he doesn't talk really slow' and this is coming from a fast talking NYC'r like myself.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
20. Yes I did.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:17 PM
Jun 2022

His delivery was slow in my opinion and I think Liz Cheney completely outshined him.

It IS okay if I have an opinion, right? Or do I have to agree with everything on DU to keep from being accused of something I’m not?

I didn’t think Thompson did a very good job. And I’m fine with people feeling differently. So why can’t MY opinion be respected as well?

electric_blue68

(14,891 posts)
27. Yes...
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:24 PM
Jun 2022

You can have your opinion.

But when explaining to others what people disagreed
on esp something so short - you don't leave out the other descriptive word.

That's all.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
31. Because it was of no consequence.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:28 PM
Jun 2022

I was replying to a message that mentioned the word “folksy”. There was no mention of the word “slow” in the post to which I replied. SMH…

It’s amazing to me that some DU posters look so hard to find sinister intent. This kind of stuff is divisive - another opinion that I happen to have.

Ohio Joe

(21,755 posts)
37. "This kind of stuff is divisive"
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:45 PM
Jun 2022

Shitting on a beloved DU Rep is fine but calling one out for doing so is divisive... An interesting opinion.

Cha

(297,211 posts)
62. TY Exactly.. and it's "alright to have
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 06:09 PM
Jun 2022

an opinion".. and the same goes for those who disagree with it.

💙💛

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
32. You used stereotypical language in your shallow critique of the man
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:29 PM
Jun 2022

Which giving you the benefit of the doubt I assumed was a mistake that you hadn't fully thought through. When it was brought to your attention, however, by multiple people here you got defensive rather than choosing your words more carefully. Now you continue to parade that nonsense around here like you are proud of it. So maybe it wasn't a mistake after all please continue to show who you are if that is not something you care about.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
35. It wasn't a mistake.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:38 PM
Jun 2022

The language is not stereotypical.

Who exactly do you think I am? Can you please be specific?

I don’t have to confirm to YOUR idea of what is or is not okay to post here. Nor do I need to be corrected by you. Did my post break any rules? If so, alert.

If not, then put me on ignore since my use of language obviously offends you so much. I am yet again offended by your insinuation.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
38. Everyones entitled to their opinion
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:46 PM
Jun 2022

How they choose to express it matters. If you choose not to be sensitive to racial stereotypes thats your choice also. Criticizing a black man from Rural Mississippi who is chairing a congressional committee for being too “folksy and slow” has meaning in a racist society. You are right I don’t know anything about you all I know is the words you choose to express yourself.

brush

(53,777 posts)
76. If you don't know that calling a Black man slow...
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 08:20 PM
Jun 2022

is stereotypical and racist you might try some sensitivity training.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
84. I did not call a Black man slow.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 11:24 PM
Jun 2022

I commented that I didn’t like a man’s delivery with no comment or thought in my mind as to the color of his skin. Am I not allowed to think anyone who is a different color than me is bad at their job? Should I be too afraid to voice ANY opinion about someone who is Black just because I am not?

I felt his delivery was folksy and slow, meaning that he took too long to make his point. If I wasn’t clear, then being unclear is my mistake, but I wasn’t aware that my every single word and keystroke was going to be scrutinized by a group on here who obviously enjoys making race an issue. Race is not an issue to me and you can either believe that or not. I am not here to have my posts “approved”. If I have violated a rule, then as I suggested up post, alert on me.

For the record, I think Anderson Cooper is a brilliant reporter but I cannot stand to watch him because he constantly says “you know” all the time, which to me makes his delivery very unprofessional. So I guess in your way of thinking, that makes me anti-gay, right?

This is the end of my discussion on this issue. Like it, lump it, or whatever. I am tired of being attacked for the way I phrased something. You think I’m a racist, so you obviously should want nothing more to do with me. End of story.

Now either alert on my post, put me on ignore or reply. I don’t give a fuck what you choose to do. I will not be reading anything more in this thread anyway.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
34. what kind
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:34 PM
Jun 2022

of delivery would you have been satisfied with by Rep. Thompson vis a vie Senator Cheney? Who was supposed to outshine whom? This hearing was not a competition. Maybe there is something else going on with your non-acceptance of REP. Thompson's delivery? Just calling him Thompson was off-putting to me. By that, I mean you have a lot more respect for Sen. Cheney it seems.

But I could be wrong...

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
36. I called her Liz Cheney.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:42 PM
Jun 2022

Exactly what are you saying? What else is going on with my non-acceptance of Bennie Thompson?

Is it okay with you if I call him that? I just didn’t like his delivery last night. My opinion.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
39. okay
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:47 PM
Jun 2022

and that is just it, your opinion. I'm aware of that. In your post, it was just "Thompson" not the first name. That to me is a lack of respect for his title as a United States Representative Thompson. My opinion. And it won't change.

brush

(53,777 posts)
74. Ahhh...you might consider that as chairman he...
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 08:13 PM
Jun 2022

was gracious enough to share the spotlight with Liz Cheney and allow her to delved first and deeply into the juicy facts about the trump cabal. He easily could've done that all himself as it was all right there before them both on the prompters.

IMO he knew it would be more effective coming from a republican and therefore less likely to be labeled nothing but a Democratic Party witch hunt against trump.

They worked together well, which was the point in establishing the facts. It wasn't to try to outshine one another. It's pretty obvious his ego doesn't need that.

Montauk6

(8,075 posts)
95. Well, speaking of slow...
Thu Jul 14, 2022, 04:48 PM
Jul 2022

Now Judge Luttig...(bless his heart). I was totally getting Bob & Ray vibes off his testimony

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
33. A lot of people happen to like it.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:31 PM
Jun 2022

I just didn’t like the man’s delivery in this context. That’s just me and I’m fine with the idea that most others here feel differently.

But that doesn’t change my opinion and that should be okay, too. Thanks for your reply.

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
23. I missed that.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:20 PM
Jun 2022

Maybe I'll be spared, since I'm talking about his drawl, and not him. Yeah. Getting on your case over that is a bit much. Especially since a lot of people are more apt to listen when it's coming from "someone who sounds more like me."

brush

(53,777 posts)
77. IMO the folksy drawl is not the issue, calling a Black man...
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 08:29 PM
Jun 2022

slow is. To many that's the same as calling him dumb. It's a stereotype and borderline racist.

Not something one expects to see on a progressive, Dem site like DU.

Disaffected

(4,554 posts)
57. He did a fine job but
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 03:03 PM
Jun 2022

I kinda wish he wouldn't say "axed" instead of "asked" (at least that's how it sounded to me).

Is such terminology all that common in the US?

Retrograde

(10,136 posts)
78. A number of White southerners as well
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 08:29 PM
Jun 2022

especially in older generations - it may be a regional or dialect thing. Some linguists claim that the "axe" pronunciation goes back centuries, maybe back to the 1300s or 1400s.

electric_blue68

(14,891 posts)
79. Interesting. Almost all the people I know who use have been African American ....
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 08:38 PM
Jun 2022

I don't know many white Southerners.
(and my friend in Texas we've never talked on the phone.
Old fashioned letters, eventually the internet. 👍 )

happy feet

(869 posts)
87. Linguistics from African languages
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 06:48 AM
Jun 2022

Not vernacular as much as physical linguistics. I heard it explained as resulting from accents of speaking English from African languages of the slaves...has waned over time. When I was a child I naturally pronounced it axed. My parents corrected me EVERY time and I learned to deliberately use my mouth in a way that used the k instead of x.


Much like immigrants pronunciation of certain English words that wane over time.

EndlessWire

(6,526 posts)
64. Oh, yes!
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 06:14 PM
Jun 2022

I just loved his voice. I felt a little embarrassed, focusing on his voice, but darned! I loved listening to him. Can't help myself.

brush

(53,777 posts)
7. Yes, and it was obvious, to me at least, that he shared a big part...
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 11:58 AM
Jun 2022

of the spotlight with Liz Cheney by allowing her to get into the initial and real juicy parts of the trump insurrection conspiracy, while still maintaining the overall lead role.

wnylib

(21,450 posts)
51. Good move to let Rep Cheney
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 02:30 PM
Jun 2022

deliver so much of the opening. She is a conservative Republican. Imagine how the things that she said would be received coming from a Dem. There would be so much complaining about Dem partisanship against Trump that the message of her opening would have been lost.

A wise decision by Chairman Thompson.

Novara

(5,842 posts)
16. He's not showy and he's not full of anger
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:10 PM
Jun 2022

He's calm and serious and just what is needed. His quiet demeanor allows people to focus on the facts rather than him.

Compare him to that idiot Gym Jordan - nothing he says has any substance and no one remembers it because it's buried under his self-righteous hysteria.

We needed someone calm, collected, and serious fo this because it really is the biggest political crime in our history.

But I get the impression that you wouldn't want to cross him. The quiet types often have steel in their spines.

ohmeohmy

(12 posts)
26. Thank you for this thread!
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:23 PM
Jun 2022

I was so impressed and grateful for Chairman Thompson. And his history lesson on Lincoln was powerful as well.

MuseRider

(34,109 posts)
40. I liked his delivery.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 12:51 PM
Jun 2022

He was calm, very well prepared, as you would expect, but his quiet firmness was impressive. I get tired of the yelling and pretend outrage and that was nowhere last night. I am pretty sure he quietly delivered the agreement that Pence deserved hanging in a manner that could not be ignored..

I have always liked him a lot.

crickets

(25,978 posts)
44. Thank you, Rep Bennie Thompson!
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 01:14 PM
Jun 2022

I agree with others who have said his calm demeanor was what we needed, not stridence or high volume. The calm did not hide the firm resolve he and Cheney both showed last night. The balance between their presentations was so well done. Kudos to the Commission on an excellent start to the hearings.

magicksmom

(47 posts)
49. Talks Softly but Carries a Big Stick!
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 02:10 PM
Jun 2022

His humble, calm delivery made me feel confident that we are in good hands. Thank you Representative Thompson 🙏🌷

Karadeniz

(22,514 posts)
50. We loved Bennie! I was glad to have a Southern accent in the lead. Perhaps some Southerners
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 02:15 PM
Jun 2022

might be more disposed to listen to the facts. Don't anyone burst my bubble!!!!

BComplex

(8,051 posts)
58. Bennie's name will definitely be one that school children/teens will forever learn in American
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 04:53 PM
Jun 2022

History class from now on! He's been awesome!

DET

(1,311 posts)
63. The Chairman Did a Great Job
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 06:14 PM
Jun 2022

Cheney seems to be getting most of the kudos (deservedly so), but I thought Thompson did a great job. No hysterics like the other side, just a calm recitation of the facts. I could finally calm down when I realized that Thompson and Cheney were fully up to the task.

BumRushDaShow

(128,965 posts)
86. K&R and as a note - Liz Cheney is the VICE CHAIR of the J6 Committee
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 05:58 AM
Jun 2022

which is why the two shared the spotlight (as a FYI in response to this thread's posts mentioning her).

As of next year, Thompson will have been in Congress for 30 years, so he is a seasoned vet and sadly, with the state that has the highest black population of any other (38%) he is not only the only (D) Rep, but the only black one as well.

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
88. He was very good
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 08:42 AM
Jun 2022

He's obviously not Madison Avenue casting, but his delivery was prompt and words well-chosen. He's a down home Congressman, obviously a learned man.

I saw only professional courtesy between him and Liz Cheney. Was she using her hair on her right as a shield from the Democratic side of the committee?

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
90. And yet there are people who thought him unintelligent
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 10:38 AM
Jun 2022

because he mispronounced “asked” as “axed.” I was having dinner in a pub style restaurant last night with long table shared seating and I overheard that conversation from the group sitting close by. Obviously they had immediately glossed over any of the rest of his remarks because of this.

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
91. I'd call that a colloquialism
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 10:48 AM
Jun 2022

regional, or cultural. It doesn't mean someone is dumb. It means they're small-townish, or of a local culture. Trump said "good people" all the time, and it meant kind of an "insider" to nj/ny but was accepted by the rest of the country as no big deal.

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
92. I have since looked it up and it appears that it's perfectly acceptable
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 10:55 AM
Jun 2022

in fact having started out as “aks” but over the years being used both ways. Sadly this is never explained in English class.

Mozeltov Cocktail

(200 posts)
89. I was not familiar with Congressman Thompson...
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 10:26 AM
Jun 2022

About a full minute into his intro when he described his background and resume, I was so happy. I, like everyone else, was apprehensive about this hearing. I felt that Congressman Thompson was a perfect balance to Congresswoman Chaney. It goes without saying that they both did an awesome, amazing job.

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