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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump and the Saudis are trying to fuck the PGA and American golf
I'm not a golfer, and I may only watch the last day of a major tournament on TV. But it seems that the Saudis, with the help of Trump, have a major golf scam going.
The Saudis have started a new golf organization of sorts called LIV. Phil Mickelson, Greg Norman, and a few other well known golf pros have become involved in their tournaments, (probably because of the huge money prizes). The PGA has banned any pro golfer who plays in LIV tournaments from remaining a member of the PGA, or playing in PGA tournaments.
You know that anything that Trump is involved in is a scam. And it will probably come crashing down, like every other business he has ever been involved in. (He was once involved in trying to establish a new football league called the USFL, the United States Football league, which didn't last long.)
So I guess my bottom line is fuck Trump, fuck the Saudis, (the people who brought us 9/11), and fuck any pro golfer who has anything to do with them.
I know that golf is not one of our major concerns, but it's amazing how Trump never tires of finding new self-enrichment scams, and how many morons will buy into it.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/with-liv-golf-trump-is-helping-the-saudis-buy-their-way-into-american-hearts
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,699 posts)Burn me twice, still shame on you. The gullible never learn.
How's Truth Social doing, Devin's Cow?
nolabear
(41,930 posts)Because, FREEDOM!
Srkdqltr
(6,224 posts)former9thward
(31,925 posts)What is your definition of "greedy"? Golfers have complained for years about the PGA's low pay. I would not defend them.
Srkdqltr
(6,224 posts)What I'm saying, not that well, is the high price we are paying now for fuel is to those who are paying the golfers 200m for golfing. I imagine to get them out of the PGA. The money is win or loose I assume.
former9thward
(31,925 posts)I am opposed to monopolies. So if someone wants to complete more power to them. Yes, I know the Saudis are involved. But Biden is going to Saudi Arabia so we have moved on.
AZProgressive
(29,322 posts)They want accountability. I also dont support Biden doing that which is a broken campaign promise.
nolabear
(41,930 posts)Theyre going to be so shocked when it all falls down. I just hope the PGA sticks to its guns.
ProfessorGAC
(64,827 posts)The tour is loaded with Randians! The libertarian streak is a golf course wide!
Lots of them grew up on country clubs, got high level instruction from the start, but think they are these stand alone entrepreneurs.
Most of them are wrong.
nolabear
(41,930 posts)musette_sf
(10,198 posts)I did temp work for David Dixon, the NOLA money guy behind the USFL, in the early 80s. Id moved to NOLA from NYC so knew what garbage the whole Drumph family was even then.
Cyrano
(15,027 posts)Trump Steaks, Trump Airlines, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump Magazine, Trump University, The New Jersey Generals, Trump Network, Trump Taj Mahal, Trumps Castle, Trump Plaza Casinos, Trump Plaza Hotel, Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts, Trump Entertainment Resorts.
What he most recently fucked up is democracy. And it remains to be seen if it can be fixed, or if he's destroyed it.
Straw Man
(6,622 posts)This latest venture is poised to suffer the same fate. It's truer every day: Everything Trump touches turns to shit. The amazing thing is that he keeps getting more chances to play.
So much winning ...
msongs
(67,347 posts)Cyrano
(15,027 posts)Thunderbeast
(3,400 posts)I hope to be on an overpass with a picture of Fallon Smart, a 14 year-old girl from southeast Portland who was killed by a Saudi student in a reckless hit and run. Prior to his conviction, Saudi agents cut off his ankle bracelett and whisked him away to Rhiad on a private jet.
The Saudi royal family is an organized crime syndicate established by the CIA in collusion with oil companies.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.koin.com/news/crime/60-minutes-fallon-smarts-saudi-killer-fled-portland/amp/
brush
(53,729 posts)stop every last one of the greedy golfers. Money talks though and I think the PGA will come out best because most of the top golfers are staying with them. As with other sports leagues being challenged though, some of the new leagues rules will be adapted.
This new league offers appearance fees for even those who come in last. The PGA would be wise to adopt that feature and get rid of having to make the "cut" after the first two rounds or you get nothing for playing.
The last place person gets 120k for playing. No golfer will be against that.
Cyrano
(15,027 posts)out of the country, by air, right after 9/11, when every single flight in the United States was grounded. Hmmm, I wonder why.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)TroubleMan
(4,859 posts)This whole thing is the worst example of sportswashing I've ever seen, even worse that international soccer ownership.
moondust
(19,956 posts)Tiger Woods rejected the deal.
PeaceWave
(24 posts)Wait until they figure out that the price for disobeying is being murdered, dismembered and made to disappear.
Diablo del sol
(424 posts)Basically a spring/summer league that was starting to get traction. tRump entered with his typical bullshit and bluster, pushed the league to go head to head with the NFL and the league imploded.
Samrob
(4,298 posts)When greed is not enough.
Captain Zero
(6,780 posts)PGA probably doesn't want to allow it,?
Got to be major money in golf and gambling. And owning. How that is run.
LessAspin
(1,151 posts)To me this is one of, if not the main objective, of Saudi Golf...
It's another way to funnel money to their favorite son in hopes he returns to power.
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https://www.democraticunderground.com/120487679
malaise
(268,664 posts)Frightening
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)BettyonRed
(40 posts)PGA is a monopoly that only pays the top players well. Everyone else suffers. A little competition will improve the employment conditions for everyone.