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Cyrano

(15,027 posts)
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 03:36 PM Jun 2022

Trump and the Saudis are trying to fuck the PGA and American golf

I'm not a golfer, and I may only watch the last day of a major tournament on TV. But it seems that the Saudis, with the help of Trump, have a major golf scam going.

The Saudis have started a new golf organization of sorts called LIV. Phil Mickelson, Greg Norman, and a few other well known golf pros have become involved in their tournaments, (probably because of the huge money prizes). The PGA has banned any pro golfer who plays in LIV tournaments from remaining a member of the PGA, or playing in PGA tournaments.

You know that anything that Trump is involved in is a scam. And it will probably come crashing down, like every other business he has ever been involved in. (He was once involved in trying to establish a new football league called the USFL, the United States Football league, which didn't last long.)

So I guess my bottom line is fuck Trump, fuck the Saudis, (the people who brought us 9/11), and fuck any pro golfer who has anything to do with them.

I know that golf is not one of our major concerns, but it's amazing how Trump never tires of finding new self-enrichment scams, and how many morons will buy into it.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/with-liv-golf-trump-is-helping-the-saudis-buy-their-way-into-american-hearts

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Trump and the Saudis are trying to fuck the PGA and American golf (Original Post) Cyrano Jun 2022 OP
Burn me once, shame on you. ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2022 #1
They're busy tossing anyone who posts about the Jan 6 hearings. nolabear Jun 2022 #3
Money talks. They are investing the gas profits in greedy golfers Srkdqltr Jun 2022 #2
Now golfers are "greedy"? former9thward Jun 2022 #8
Would not defend which? Golfers or PGA? Srkdqltr Jun 2022 #15
My only point is the PGA is a monopoly or would like to be one. former9thward Jun 2022 #17
Some 9/11 families haven't moved on AZProgressive Jun 2022 #23
Pro golfers are not known for their liberal bias. nolabear Jun 2022 #4
VERY Libertarian!!! ProfessorGAC Jun 2022 #6
Ain't it the truth. nolabear Jun 2022 #25
I typed the initial USFL intro letter to TFG musette_sf Jun 2022 #5
Everything he ever touched turned to dung. Here's the short list: Cyrano Jun 2022 #14
Yeah, USFL Straw Man Jun 2022 #18
I favor george carlin's views about golf.... msongs Jun 2022 #7
Absolutely brilliant. Carlin is the best there's ever been. Cyrano Jun 2022 #11
One of their first events is at Pumpkin Ridge west of Portland. Thunderbeast Jun 2022 #9
Partnering with those bone-saw killing Saudis should've... brush Jun 2022 #12
And let's not forget that Bush whisked Saudis Cyrano Jun 2022 #13
Thank you and shame on Pumpkin Rudge for hosting the event. CentralMass Jun 2022 #20
LIV stands for "Let's Ignore Violence." TroubleMan Jun 2022 #10
9-figure guaranteed mega-deals. moondust Jun 2022 #16
Screw those traitorous players PeaceWave Jun 2022 #19
I believe tRump came into the USFL after the fact Diablo del sol Jun 2022 #21
Tsk, tsk. All those MAGA, America First, billionaire golfers from the PGA...tsk tsk. Samrob Jun 2022 #22
Probably an online GAMBLING SCAM (?) Captain Zero Jun 2022 #24
Saudi Golf to funnel Money to Trump LessAspin Jun 2022 #26
Rory LessAspin Jun 2022 #29
There's an awful lot of blood money in sports these days malaise Jun 2022 #27
Cracks me up how golfers need dead silence!! Silly! Nt USALiberal Jun 2022 #28
I'm ok with this BettyonRed Jun 2022 #30

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,699 posts)
1. Burn me once, shame on you.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 03:44 PM
Jun 2022

Burn me twice, still shame on you. The gullible never learn.

How's Truth Social doing, Devin's Cow?

former9thward

(31,925 posts)
8. Now golfers are "greedy"?
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 04:03 PM
Jun 2022

What is your definition of "greedy"? Golfers have complained for years about the PGA's low pay. I would not defend them.

Srkdqltr

(6,224 posts)
15. Would not defend which? Golfers or PGA?
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 04:51 PM
Jun 2022

What I'm saying, not that well, is the high price we are paying now for fuel is to those who are paying the golfers 200m for golfing. I imagine to get them out of the PGA. The money is win or loose I assume.

former9thward

(31,925 posts)
17. My only point is the PGA is a monopoly or would like to be one.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 05:00 PM
Jun 2022

I am opposed to monopolies. So if someone wants to complete more power to them. Yes, I know the Saudis are involved. But Biden is going to Saudi Arabia so we have moved on.

AZProgressive

(29,322 posts)
23. Some 9/11 families haven't moved on
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 06:14 PM
Jun 2022

They want accountability. I also don’t support Biden doing that which is a broken campaign promise.

nolabear

(41,930 posts)
4. Pro golfers are not known for their liberal bias.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 03:53 PM
Jun 2022

They’re going to be so shocked when it all falls down. I just hope the PGA sticks to its guns.

ProfessorGAC

(64,827 posts)
6. VERY Libertarian!!!
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 03:57 PM
Jun 2022

The tour is loaded with Randians! The libertarian streak is a golf course wide!
Lots of them grew up on country clubs, got high level instruction from the start, but think they are these stand alone entrepreneurs.
Most of them are wrong.

musette_sf

(10,198 posts)
5. I typed the initial USFL intro letter to TFG
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 03:54 PM
Jun 2022

I did temp work for David Dixon, the NOLA money guy behind the USFL, in the early 80s. I’d moved to NOLA from NYC so knew what garbage the whole Drumph family was even then.

Cyrano

(15,027 posts)
14. Everything he ever touched turned to dung. Here's the short list:
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 04:50 PM
Jun 2022

Trump Steaks, Trump Airlines, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump Magazine, Trump University, The New Jersey Generals, Trump Network, Trump Taj Mahal, Trump’s Castle, Trump Plaza Casinos, Trump Plaza Hotel, Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts, Trump Entertainment Resorts.

What he most recently fucked up is democracy. And it remains to be seen if it can be fixed, or if he's destroyed it.

Straw Man

(6,622 posts)
18. Yeah, USFL
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 05:13 PM
Jun 2022

This latest venture is poised to suffer the same fate. It's truer every day: Everything Trump touches turns to shit. The amazing thing is that he keeps getting more chances to play.

So much winning ...

Thunderbeast

(3,400 posts)
9. One of their first events is at Pumpkin Ridge west of Portland.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 04:03 PM
Jun 2022

I hope to be on an overpass with a picture of Fallon Smart, a 14 year-old girl from southeast Portland who was killed by a Saudi student in a reckless hit and run. Prior to his conviction, Saudi agents cut off his ankle bracelett and whisked him away to Rhiad on a private jet.

The Saudi royal family is an organized crime syndicate established by the CIA in collusion with oil companies.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.koin.com/news/crime/60-minutes-fallon-smarts-saudi-killer-fled-portland/amp/

brush

(53,729 posts)
12. Partnering with those bone-saw killing Saudis should've...
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 04:21 PM
Jun 2022

stop every last one of the greedy golfers. Money talks though and I think the PGA will come out best because most of the top golfers are staying with them. As with other sports leagues being challenged though, some of the new leagues rules will be adapted.

This new league offers appearance fees for even those who come in last. The PGA would be wise to adopt that feature and get rid of having to make the "cut" after the first two rounds or you get nothing for playing.

The last place person gets 120k for playing. No golfer will be against that.

Cyrano

(15,027 posts)
13. And let's not forget that Bush whisked Saudis
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 04:24 PM
Jun 2022

out of the country, by air, right after 9/11, when every single flight in the United States was grounded. Hmmm, I wonder why.

TroubleMan

(4,859 posts)
10. LIV stands for "Let's Ignore Violence."
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 04:08 PM
Jun 2022

This whole thing is the worst example of sportswashing I've ever seen, even worse that international soccer ownership.

PeaceWave

(24 posts)
19. Screw those traitorous players
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 05:30 PM
Jun 2022

Wait until they figure out that the price for disobeying is being murdered, dismembered and made to disappear.

 

Diablo del sol

(424 posts)
21. I believe tRump came into the USFL after the fact
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 06:07 PM
Jun 2022

Basically a spring/summer league that was starting to get traction. tRump entered with his typical bullshit and bluster, pushed the league to go head to head with the NFL and the league imploded.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
22. Tsk, tsk. All those MAGA, America First, billionaire golfers from the PGA...tsk tsk.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 06:11 PM
Jun 2022

When greed is not enough.

Captain Zero

(6,780 posts)
24. Probably an online GAMBLING SCAM (?)
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 06:17 PM
Jun 2022

PGA probably doesn't want to allow it,?

Got to be major money in golf and gambling. And owning. How that is run.

LessAspin

(1,151 posts)
26. Saudi Golf to funnel Money to Trump
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 10:24 AM
Jun 2022

To me this is one of, if not the main objective, of Saudi Golf...

It's another way to funnel money to their favorite son in hopes he returns to power.









https://www.democraticunderground.com/120487679
 

BettyonRed

(40 posts)
30. I'm ok with this
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 04:26 PM
Jun 2022

PGA is a monopoly that only pays the top players well. Everyone else suffers. A little competition will improve the employment conditions for everyone.

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