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PA_jen

(1,114 posts)
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 04:06 PM Jun 2022

After last night we need to look more closely at TFG's pardons

Is there a way to determine if pocket pardon had been given?

Does the fact Jared and Ivanka spoke to the committee indicate they do have the pocket pardons?

Could the committee know?

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After last night we need to look more closely at TFG's pardons (Original Post) PA_jen Jun 2022 OP
I'd think if someone spoke, they probably don't have a pardon AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2022 #1
on the same hand They have the Pardons why not speak? PA_jen Jun 2022 #2
If they're speaking, they're probably offered something for cooperation AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2022 #3
I believe if they have a pardon they are more willing to speak PA_jen Jun 2022 #5
Jared was in charge of selling the pardons. Cracklin Charlie Jun 2022 #4
And didn't it seem Kushner said he was selling pardons? brush Jun 2022 #6
Working on does not equal selling. NCLefty Jun 2022 #8
You think it never occured to Kushner and trump? brush Jun 2022 #9
Is a "pocket pardon" a thing? Thunderbeast Jun 2022 #7
It is among some DUers. onenote Jun 2022 #12
It's not really a thing. MineralMan Jun 2022 #13
Not those magical pardons again. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #10
I wouldn't think that if you had a secret pardon Chainfire Jun 2022 #11

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,010 posts)
3. If they're speaking, they're probably offered something for cooperation
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 04:18 PM
Jun 2022

If they have a pardon, there's nothing they can be offered.

PA_jen

(1,114 posts)
5. I believe if they have a pardon they are more willing to speak
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 04:36 PM
Jun 2022

and hang someone else to dry because it deflects more attention away from them.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
4. Jared was in charge of selling the pardons.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 04:25 PM
Jun 2022

How long was his interview with the committee? I’ll bet it was a lot longer than the 10 seconds we saw last night.

brush

(53,776 posts)
6. And didn't it seem Kushner said he was selling pardons?
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 04:45 PM
Jun 2022

I wouldn't put it past that creep. And of course the orange turd got his cut off the top.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
13. It's not really a thing.
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 08:36 PM
Jun 2022

No such thing has ever been done, and a President's pardoning power only exists while the individual is President. At the end of that presidency no further pardons can be granted. There are no "pocket" pardons. They do not exist.

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
11. I wouldn't think that if you had a secret pardon
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 07:19 PM
Jun 2022

that you would ever let the fact be known unless you were forced to use it. I would certainly make the user look guilty. Who knows, Trump may have signed scores of the back of Monopoly get out of jail free cards, and they might be valid.

There is more that I don't understand about Presidential Pardons, than I do understand. Maybe someone can help.

After being pardoned for a crime, would you be able to assert your 5th amendment rights in subsequent testimony about the subject of the pardon? You couldn't be in jeopardy of incriminating yourself.

Would a pardoned Jr. have to tell the truth about his sister under threat of perjury?

Would a pardon also cover related crimes committed after the pardon was given?

Does the President have the power to issue a blanket pardon for life?

Is there any kind of system in place that would prevent a former president from pre-dating a pardon?

Has any of these kinds of questions ever gone to the high courts?

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