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I mentioned that I think the protocol for law enforcement should be to shoot first (Original Post) randr Jun 2022 OP
I wasn't that guy, but I'm even more appaled now. TreasonousBastard Jun 2022 #1
Well it ought to be shoot as a last resort. Voltaire2 Jun 2022 #2
When police enter the building, how do they know the armed teacher is not the mass shooter? keithbvadu2 Jun 2022 #3
Shooters usually look like a student. Igel Jun 2022 #5
Or the cops show up at a grocery store robbery Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #6
How come it has not happened? former9thward Jun 2022 #7
Most of these laws have been passed relatively recently. Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #8
I guess if you measure time in decades. former9thward Jun 2022 #9
I watched a show on ID where a white guy was talked down and eventually apprehended kimbutgar Jun 2022 #4

Voltaire2

(12,926 posts)
2. Well it ought to be shoot as a last resort.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 10:41 AM
Jun 2022

But I think you know that. Fair enough on your follow up that this obviously is the policy for people who aren’t clearly white.

keithbvadu2

(36,622 posts)
3. When police enter the building, how do they know the armed teacher is not the mass shooter?
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 11:06 AM
Jun 2022

When police enter the building, how do they know the armed teacher is not the mass shooter?

The mass shooter could say he is a teacher.

Igel

(35,268 posts)
5. Shooters usually look like a student.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 06:57 PM
Jun 2022

Which is why my school is very clear: We're to tell students to do what the police effing tell them. "Drop!" means flop on the ground. "Stop" means "stop." Don't protest, don't run to hug the cops, don't do anything but go limp and eat dirt. Use your brain, not your emotions.

Why?

Easiest way for a shooter to leave the building is to hide the gun, run screaming from the building with the other students, and then start killing all over again. Or just keep on runnin'.

A student runs at a cop? The poor human in the uniform might panic and shoot the student. Sure, bad cop. But after all the reprimands and punishment, the student's still been shot.

Mr.Bill

(24,215 posts)
6. Or the cops show up at a grocery store robbery
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 06:59 PM
Jun 2022

and find 25 people with weapons drawn shooting at each other. It's just a matter of time with permitless open carry.

former9thward

(31,913 posts)
7. How come it has not happened?
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 07:33 PM
Jun 2022


The green states (dark and light) are states with permitless carry. I have not heard of any shooting where the cops arrive and they find the situation you describe.

former9thward

(31,913 posts)
9. I guess if you measure time in decades.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 08:26 PM
Jun 2022

But no, they have been around for a long time in a great many of the states. I suppose any scenario imaginable can happen in a matter of time...

kimbutgar

(21,028 posts)
4. I watched a show on ID where a white guy was talked down and eventually apprehended
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 11:28 AM
Jun 2022

But if it was a black man he would have been shot.

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