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My Trumpy neighbor, commenting on that stunning video footage, once again demands (Original Post) CTyankee Jun 2022 OP
Sad little man TheRealNorth Jun 2022 #1
He's a good man, wonderful neighbor, wants to help us out all the time... CTyankee Jun 2022 #8
Because blueknight73 Jun 2022 #22
someday we'll figure it out, I'm sure CTyankee Jun 2022 #30
Not just trump Traildogbob Jun 2022 #35
Well he has to blame somebody "out there" for his suffering and frustrations vlyons Jun 2022 #46
Actually, that's not true. He and his wife lost a baby born too soon to survive. It was so sad. CTyankee Jun 2022 #60
I imagine he'd be immensely flattered to know how you bring us his thoughts so often. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #49
"Nothing you say will change my mind" is what we're up against. czarjak Jun 2022 #54
While it's just my opinion TheRealNorth Jun 2022 #59
Is there more video of Jan 6 mzmolly Jun 2022 #2
Realities Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2022 #3
Tell him the truth.. FarPoint Jun 2022 #4
Did the laptop riot? Ask him that. Tetrachloride Jun 2022 #5
Ask him, "Okay, what about the laptop?" viva la Jun 2022 #6
He would say "NO, NO, NO..." and walk away CTyankee Jun 2022 #12
My response whenever I'm told something stupid by a Trump follower: "Tell me about it." sop Jun 2022 #23
Me, too. I ask simple questions and they tie themselves into knots. Midnight Writer Jun 2022 #34
This is a good response. Usually, they are not prepared to argue and just fall back on something to CTyankee Jun 2022 #65
+1, FAUX NewZ exploits human Anchor Bias; humans tendency to believe first perspective they hear uponit7771 Jun 2022 #66
The Hunter Biden's lap top is a Russian produced meme. Show him this: Botany Jun 2022 #7
You and I both know he'd say: FAKE NEWS! CTyankee Jun 2022 #10
Fox news mikeysnot Jun 2022 #15
Ask him about: The daily contacts between Putin's Alfa Bank Computer Server and Trump's Computer .. Botany Jun 2022 #32
Iran/Contra was unbearable for them. Hillary's Heathcare plans made too much sense. jaxexpat Jun 2022 #52
Who has had possession of said laptop? aka-chmeee Jun 2022 #9
How many police officers died trying to defend Hunter's laptop? nt TigressDem Jun 2022 #11
all those "LIES" you mean? CTyankee Jun 2022 #16
I am more about comparing the damage the laptop did compared to the riots. TigressDem Jun 2022 #18
yeah, all this time they havent even proven it was his laptop. mopinko Jun 2022 #13
Whataboutism is the GOP fall back. sarcasmo Jun 2022 #14
Poor guy. Can't he come up with something better leftyladyfrommo Jun 2022 #17
My neighbors have not yet burned out on "her emails." Chainfire Jun 2022 #19
Get your neighbor this book Effete Snob Jun 2022 #20
LOL Basic LA Jun 2022 #26
I had that one Generic Brad Jun 2022 #37
Simon (Fox News) says Hunter Bidens laptop andym Jun 2022 #21
Tell him Hannity is no longer worried about Hunter babylonsister Jun 2022 #24
All Trump voters suffer from, what aboutism fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #25
It does make me wonder how he would treat you if you were black or transgender. MLAA Jun 2022 #27
True. I get along fine with my Trumpie neighbors, but I look just like one of them. Midnight Writer Jun 2022 #36
Ask him "what is preventing a full investigation of Hunter Biden's laptop?" Mr. Ected Jun 2022 #28
Wasn't the chain of evidence broken on the laptop MacKasey Jun 2022 #29
I really don't think he knows much about the whole story. For some reason, it zaps something in his CTyankee Jun 2022 #31
i hope so. barbtries Jun 2022 #33
Why have we Traildogbob Jun 2022 #38
My response to that, and to statements about Hillary's email is lees1975 Jun 2022 #39
Just calmly tell your neighbor that LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #40
I don't think he has put that together in his head. I think he is disturbed. CTyankee Jun 2022 #43
Ask him why TFG did nothing about Hunter's laptop Kaleva Jun 2022 #41
Thinking is probably painful for him. llmart Jun 2022 #42
That's all they got? milestogo Jun 2022 #44
I flipped from CNN over to fox in the hour before it started, they were talking about "the laptop". OverBurn Jun 2022 #45
Their deflection is a well-honed tool. N/T Patton French Jun 2022 #47
Ask the poor thing why he's chasing a MacGuffin, occasionally referred to as a Red Herring (Уловка). Ford_Prefect Jun 2022 #48
grasping at straws and in full, complete, brainwashed denial. Don't expect much. They are gone Evolve Dammit Jun 2022 #50
Hunter Biden's laptop is so old by now xxqqqzme Jun 2022 #51
I got why was General Patreus affair publicized mchill Jun 2022 #53
The fact is they don't care if Trump is a criminal iemanja Jun 2022 #55
How many . . . AverageOldGuy Jun 2022 #56
But What About Bradley Carlson's laptop ? Mustellus Jun 2022 #57
after his hunter biden comment.... i would have said .... UP YOURS. Trueblue1968 Jun 2022 #58
Lol 😀 Demovictory9 Jun 2022 #61
tell him about Jarvanka Skittles Jun 2022 #62
Ten Top Trivia Tips about Hunter Biden's laptop! Wednesdays Jun 2022 #63
My response to him would be, "Yeah, what about it?" nt Samrob Jun 2022 #64

CTyankee

(63,926 posts)
8. He's a good man, wonderful neighbor, wants to help us out all the time...
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 11:03 AM
Jun 2022

I just can't figure out why he is so angry at liberals. He knows we are liberals...I don't get it and never will...

Traildogbob

(8,866 posts)
35. Not just trump
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:21 PM
Jun 2022

This has been going on for decades. White wing media and Corporate USA, hell bent on power and no taxes for them. The Rush Limpballs’ of the country have been stoking this shit all along. Trump jumped on, saw the cash benefit and the fools that will fund his terrorism and power. He learned from Rush, Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggert and the likes, the cash is there for the taking. This country is full of fools. A gold mic and 50 million are year for bullshitting, what he’s done his whole life, why the hell not. A Jim Jones today could have a cult of 74 million. I’d would chip in for the Kool Aid. Serve it in plastic cups with the confederate flag and a swastika. With Lee Greenwood music.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
46. Well he has to blame somebody "out there" for his suffering and frustrations
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:55 PM
Jun 2022

Because his suffering and frustrations couldn't possibl y be the consequences of his own life choices.

CTyankee

(63,926 posts)
60. Actually, that's not true. He and his wife lost a baby born too soon to survive. It was so sad.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 08:34 PM
Jun 2022

I felt so terrible for them, I started giving to the foundation they started in her name. I know how much they suffered. So I can't be angry with them and actually some of their friends on Facebook have asked him on occasion if he's "okay."

They were also victims of a home invasion a while back and we were so horrified my husband got a home security system set up in our house.

I think he might have psychological seizures of some sort. I just hope he has good meds.

czarjak

(11,310 posts)
54. "Nothing you say will change my mind" is what we're up against.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 01:31 PM
Jun 2022

They mean it! It’s now, “I’m tired of your truths”. They mean now more than ever too.

TheRealNorth

(9,500 posts)
59. While it's just my opinion
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 07:51 PM
Jun 2022

Anyone that wants to install a fascist dictator isn't a good person, no matter civil they may seem.

viva la

(3,357 posts)
6. Ask him, "Okay, what about the laptop?"
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 11:03 AM
Jun 2022

When he gets tangled up in all the different lies, say, "And how many cops ended up dead by that laptop? How many rooms of a federal building got vandalized by that laptop? How many hourly workers were terrorized by that laptop?"



sop

(10,283 posts)
23. My response whenever I'm told something stupid by a Trump follower: "Tell me about it."
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 11:29 AM
Jun 2022

What follows is usually incoherent nonsense, or lies stated with absolute certainty. It's amazing how little they know about their own political beliefs and current events.

CTyankee

(63,926 posts)
65. This is a good response. Usually, they are not prepared to argue and just fall back on something to
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 09:47 AM
Jun 2022

grab on.

Here's another idea: "I see you're upset about that laptop. Tell me more..."

uponit7771

(90,370 posts)
66. +1, FAUX NewZ exploits human Anchor Bias; humans tendency to believe first perspective they hear
Sun Jun 12, 2022, 09:48 AM
Jun 2022

Botany

(70,634 posts)
7. The Hunter Biden's lap top is a Russian produced meme. Show him this:
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 11:03 AM
Jun 2022

A New Report Adds Evidence That Trump Was a Russian Asset (this is from the senate intel committee run by republicans)

He helped Putin manipulate the U.S. election in 2020, as he did in 2016.

Donald Trump was a tool in a long-running Russian campaign to weaken the United States. That’s been documented in Republican-led investigative reports, and now it has been updated with new evidence, thanks to the U.S. Intelligence Community’s assessment of the 2020 election. The report, drafted by the CIA, the FBI, and several other agencies, was released in unclassified form on Tuesday, but it was presented in classified form on Jan. 7. In other words, it was compiled, written, and edited during Trump’s administration. It destroys his lies about the election, and it exposes him as a Russian asset.

Attacks on Biden and his son, Hunter, were part of this operation. Through “US officials and prominent US individuals, some of whom were close to former President Trump and his administration,” the report says Russia’s intelligence services “repeatedly spread unsubstantiated or misleading claims about President Biden and his family’s alleged wrongdoing related to Ukraine.” In this way, Trump’s circle “laundered” the Russian-planted stories, which were then recirculated—and promoted by Russia’s online proxies—as American news.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/03/trump-russian-asset-election-intelligence-community-report.html

CTyankee

(63,926 posts)
10. You and I both know he'd say: FAKE NEWS!
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 11:05 AM
Jun 2022

I just wonder what happened to him that made him so bitterly angry against liberals?

Botany

(70,634 posts)
32. Ask him about: The daily contacts between Putin's Alfa Bank Computer Server and Trump's Computer ..
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:09 PM
Jun 2022

.... in the little town of Lititz, Pennsylvania.

Was There a Connection Between a Russian Bank and the Trump Campaign?
A team of computer scientists sifted through records of unusual Web traffic in search of answers.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/10/15/was-there-a-connection-between-a-russian-bank-and-the-trump-campaign

Nothing fake about this story.

jaxexpat

(6,865 posts)
52. Iran/Contra was unbearable for them. Hillary's Heathcare plans made too much sense.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 01:15 PM
Jun 2022

They invented Whitewater and Bill's impeachment without grounds. It could not have been very long before the Russians saw just how easy it was to take advantage of the US's election system to cripple the government? Trump was the result of a pretty long-term scheme the fruit of which was actually placing his bull ass in the oval office China shop. That's how the "second coming of Peter the Great" wound up with his lackey running the ruining of America's shining city on the hill just in time to "retake" the Ukraine. Oh, BTW, Zelensky's running out of arms and he will continue to run out of arms until Russia either wins or starts WWIII trying. Nothing reinvents the world like American elections. Water is wet and stuff, too. Perhaps the new telescope will bring things into focus.

aka-chmeee

(1,132 posts)
9. Who has had possession of said laptop?
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 11:03 AM
Jun 2022

If the republicans have had it even for 10 minutes, how can anything on it have any value?

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
18. I am more about comparing the damage the laptop did compared to the riots.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 11:17 AM
Jun 2022

tRump's lies have torn this country apart.

mopinko

(70,294 posts)
13. yeah, all this time they havent even proven it was his laptop.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 11:06 AM
Jun 2022

or that he dropped it off. only that it had data on it that belonged to him.
it's evidence of a crime, but not hunter's.

andym

(5,446 posts)
21. Simon (Fox News) says Hunter Bidens laptop
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 11:26 AM
Jun 2022

and their brainwashed listeners respond-- like a cult they need eprogramming.

babylonsister

(171,104 posts)
24. Tell him Hannity is no longer worried about Hunter
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 11:31 AM
Jun 2022

so he can rest easy.

Trumpland
Hannity Proposed Hunter Biden Pardon to ‘Smooth Over’ Jan. 6
Died on the Vine
The Jan. 6 Committee revealed a weird text message during its first hearing Thursday night. A person familiar with negotiations confirmed that it's as weird as you think.
Roger Sollenberger
Political Reporter
Zachary Petrizzo
Media Reporter
Updated Jun. 11, 2022 3:18AM ET / Published Jun. 10, 2022 6:21PM ET

https://www.thedailybeast.com/sean-hannity-proposed-hunter-biden-pardon-to-smooth-over-jan-6

MLAA

(17,359 posts)
27. It does make me wonder how he would treat you if you were black or transgender.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 11:54 AM
Jun 2022

It’s heartbreaking to see people we know/knew be so far gone.

Midnight Writer

(21,830 posts)
36. True. I get along fine with my Trumpie neighbors, but I look just like one of them.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:22 PM
Jun 2022

I doubt they would be so accepting if I didn't.

Mr. Ected

(9,674 posts)
28. Ask him "what is preventing a full investigation of Hunter Biden's laptop?"
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:01 PM
Jun 2022

Let's all demand an investigation! Let's gather the facts. Let's examine the evidence. Let's hold hearings. Just like Hillary's emails. Just like Benghazi. Sure, it'll cost taxpayers millions of wasted dollars...but like you suggested in the past, let's cut 5 million dollars in spending to cover the costs.

"Haven't you come to realize yet that all your criminal accusations never survive an investigation? Don't you see the pattern here? FOX lies, my friend. They exist to rile you up. But it never amounts to anything whatsoever. Even when you held the White House, the Congress and the judiciary, your scandals always fizzle. Wake up. The alternate reality is the one YOU are living in, not me."

MacKasey

(995 posts)
29. Wasn't the chain of evidence broken on the laptop
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:01 PM
Jun 2022

As soon as the computer guy touch that laptop and who knows what he did with it

Also he made a copy of the drive and gave it to Rudy

Has it ever been proven that Hunter Biden brought the laptop in to be repaired

The whole thing smells like a set up

CTyankee

(63,926 posts)
31. I really don't think he knows much about the whole story. For some reason, it zaps something in his
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:08 PM
Jun 2022

psyche to start in. I'm a little afraid he'll go there actually...

barbtries

(28,817 posts)
33. i hope so.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:10 PM
Jun 2022

i hope it's so painful he starts to wonder why he keeps parroting the bullshit he found online or fox news.

Traildogbob

(8,866 posts)
38. Why have we
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:30 PM
Jun 2022

Never “demanded” to see Kushner’s and Ivanka’s laptop. 2 billion cash, from Saudies and $650 million pay while in the upper levels of the Admin. Hunter never worked for our government. Kushner and Pardons??????? His laptop should be demanded every damn time a GQP ass brings up Hunter’s name. Let’s offer a trade, Biden’s for the Kush laptop. Show their tax returns, how much did those two pay in taxes on that?

lees1975

(3,908 posts)
39. My response to that, and to statements about Hillary's email is
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:33 PM
Jun 2022

Did you read them?

What's on Hunter Biden's laptop that has anything to do with January 6th? In fact, what's on Hunter Biden's laptop?

They have conspiracy theories, but they don't have facts.

LuckyCharms

(17,469 posts)
40. Just calmly tell your neighbor that
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:36 PM
Jun 2022

Hunter Biden's laptop didn't smear human feces on the walls of the Capitol, nor did it search the Capitol Building for the Vice President with the intent of murdering him.

CTyankee

(63,926 posts)
43. I don't think he has put that together in his head. I think he is disturbed.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:43 PM
Jun 2022

I'm a little afraid of what he'll do after ALL the committee's videos are brought forward.

It's one thing to "see" things in your head, another to have your brain soaked in images of what really happened that day.

I wouldn't be surprised if he just stopped watching these videos. No more...

llmart

(15,564 posts)
42. Thinking is probably painful for him.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:40 PM
Jun 2022

You should just respond with, "Well, bless your heart" and walk away.

OverBurn

(967 posts)
45. I flipped from CNN over to fox in the hour before it started, they were talking about "the laptop".
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:55 PM
Jun 2022

The fox idiot watchers are brainwashed. Whatever fox and their dear leader says is the only "truth", it's a cult.

Ford_Prefect

(7,927 posts)
48. Ask the poor thing why he's chasing a MacGuffin, occasionally referred to as a Red Herring (Уловка).
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 01:01 PM
Jun 2022

It is rather like the briefcase in Pulp Fiction. Everyone seems to want it but no one can say what it really is, and it has no specific value by the end of the story. In real terms it is a false clue which fools people into assuming it has genuine importance.

Someone above pointed out that no one to date has verified that the laptop in question ever belonged to Hunter or contains verifiable original data.

In Russian A Red Herring is known as a Уловка (Trick).

MacGuffin:

In fiction, a MacGuffin (sometimes McGuffin) is an object, device, or event that is necessary to the plot and the motivation of the characters, but insignificant, unimportant, or irrelevant in itself. The term was originated by Angus MacPhail for film, adopted by Alfred Hitchcock and later extended to a similar device in other fiction.

The MacGuffin technique is common in films, especially thrillers. Usually, the MacGuffin is revealed in the first act, and thereafter declines in importance. It can reappear at the climax of the story but may actually be forgotten by the end of the story. Multiple MacGuffins are sometimes derisively identified as plot coupons.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacGuffin
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Red Herring:

A red herring is something that misleads or distracts from a relevant or important question. It may be either a logical fallacy or a literary device that leads readers or audiences toward a false conclusion. A red herring may be used intentionally, as in mystery fiction or as part of rhetorical strategies (e.g., in politics), or may be used in argumentation inadvertently.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring

mchill

(1,020 posts)
53. I got why was General Patreus affair publicized
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 01:26 PM
Jun 2022

Right before his Benghazi testimony.

The Whataboutism is alive and well.

Wednesdays

(17,462 posts)
63. Ten Top Trivia Tips about Hunter Biden's laptop!
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 10:21 PM
Jun 2022

Ten Top Trivia Tips about Hunter Biden's laptop!

Oranges, lemons, watermelons, pineapples and Hunter Biden's laptop are all berries.
When Hunter Biden's laptop is swallowed, it will enter the blood stream within twenty minutes.
Never store Hunter Biden's laptop at room temperature.
Antarctica is the only continent without Hunter Biden's laptop.
An average beaver can cut down Hunter Biden's laptop every year.
Hunter Biden's laptop was originally green, and actually contained cocaine.
Czar Paul I banished Hunter Biden's laptop to Siberia for marching out of step!
Hunter Biden's laptop became extinct in England in 1486!
Hunter Biden's laptop can give birth ten days after being born, and is born pregnant.
Originally, Hunter Biden's laptop could not fly.

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