Should we start picketing gas stations

[Beachnutt]

to bring awareness to the price gouging of big oil ?
Hell in 2008 oil was $140.00 a barrel but gas was not this high.

[Ocelot II]

1. That won't do any good. Gas stations don't set the prices.

They have to buy the gas from the supplier at prices they are stuck with, most are franchises.

[mobeau69]

2. No.

[Scrivener7]

3. No. We should get serious and go into extreme conservation mode.

But no one wants to do that.

[oioioi]

4. This is the only correct response and should be the platform

incentives / tax breaks for work from home employees

higher EV subsidies

massively increase investments in light rail and public transit systems

refocus urban planning with bicycle-based infrastructure as a preferred option to motor vehicles

Green New Deal

[Scrivener7]

5. Instead, they're talking about taxing my hybrid because I pay less gas tax

than the guy driving the monster truck.

[oioioi]

9. Addiction to fossil fuel is literally killing us...

The Climate and Health Impacts of Gasoline and Diesel Emissions

New research tallies the effects of gas- and diesel-burning vehicle emissions on the climate, as well as on human health. Together, the emissions cause more than 200,000 premature deaths each year.

https://eos.org/research-spotlights/the-climate-and-health-impacts-of-gasoline-and-diesel-emissions

[IL Dem]

12. In most states that isn't about gas usage.

It's about maintaining the roads you're driving on.

[Scrivener7]

13. Yes I know. I rip up the roads a lot less than the monster trucks too.

[oioioi]

14. Then make corporations pay their share of the necessary taxes

People mostly drive to either serve their employer or consume domestic product. Let the profiteers shoulder the tax burden of maintaining the roads that enable them.

[Beachnutt]

11. Best I've read all day to respond to high gas

I am doing my part, just staying home mostly.

[roamer65]

15. The back of a WW2 gasoline rationing window sticker asked the following question.

“Is this trip really necessary?”

[GoCubsGo]

35. Yep, and need to do the same when it comes to things like groceries.

Don't spend any more than you have to. As long as people keep forking over their money, these corporations will keep gouging us. Nothing will change until people cut back on their spending.

[JI7]

52. Yes, I really feel like we need large areas of the country that don't allow private vehicles

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So people can drive up to a certain point but after that they have to walk, bike, or public transportation within certain areas.

[Scrivener7]

53. That would be awesome. I live in a walking town. It's very social and pleasant.

[jimfields33]

6. State taxes on a gallon of gas went up in many states since 2008

Especially Pennsylvania and probably most other states.

[roamer65]

7. It's time for gasoline and diesel rationing.

https://postalmuseum.si.edu/collections/object-spotlight/gasoline-rationing-coupons

[onenote]

16. No.

Those coupons were never used and lines at the pump were far greater than they are today.

[roamer65]

20. Yes.

Rationing will control the amount of CO2 sent into the atmosphere, also drive people toward more efficient fossil fuel vehicles or EVs.

Either we reduce population OR control the combustion of fossil fuels.

We are going to have “pick our poison” very soon, or Mother Nature will pick it for us.

[Scrivener7]

54. I'm all for it. We do it in an organized way now, or we do it in a chaotic way at some point

in our dystopian future. Those are the only two choices.

[BlackSkimmer]

8. I don't think anyone is unaware of the price gouging.

Picketing gas stations would have zero effect.

[Emile]

10. Picket Wall Street speculators.

[onenote]

17. No.

[gulliver]

18. Nope. Blame Republicans, not gas stations.

The Republicans and their craven coddling of oil companies have allowed those companies to get the American people over a barrel. (See what I did there.) Anyone who doesn't vote Dem is asking for (and deserves) higher gas prices.

[Magoo48]

19. Possible direct action...

Drive slowly through 3 gas stations per day, and encourage your friends to do the same with this sign in car window.

WE DON’T LIKE BEING GOUGED
TELL YOUR SUPPLIER

Personally, even thought it’s painful, I believe our environment is better off for higher prices.

[BannonsLiver]

21. The people suggesting rationing are delusional

Oh that sounds great — right now. But you won’t like what comes after that. Not one bit.

[Piratedog]

22. No, gas stations don't make anything off gasoline.

[Mr.Bill]

39. Even the ones that sell nothing but gasoline? n/t

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

48. Profit on gas for stations is very small

Typically only a few cents per gallon.

[roamer65]

23. National 60 mph speed limit.

And enforce the damn thing.

[Celerity]

24. Good luck with that. nt

[roamer65]

26. I hear you.

Going to get interesting when Mother Nature starts rationing humans, which I think is ultimately what will happen.

[Celerity]

27. The US, if the Rethugs take fascist control, will become a global climate pariah

(pariah on many other issues as well)

Too many climate obstructionists in our party as well.

The exploding petrol prices mean all bets are off now anyway, as we need to win the midterms, so anything goes.

My fear is that the US learns nothing from it all.

[roamer65]

29. If the Repukes gain control the United States won't be "United" anymore.

That will be when bluer states start to consider secession.

[Boomerproud]

33. And then what happens?

It's looking like my "Golden Years" are going to be horrific. Had no idea how secure and "normal" everyday life was until the 21st century took a dark turn. I was so lucky.

[roamer65]

34. Since we are a multiethnic republic like the former Yugoslavia...

that would be my guess as to how it would play out, but on a much grander scale of course.

[alphafemale]

28. HaHaHaHaHa!

No.

Maybe we send in the police to make sure thermostats in the summer are not below 85 in the summer or 45 in the winter.

Would that be OK?

[roamer65]

31. Driving is a privilege, not a right.

[alphafemale]

36. Maybe if you can sit home all day

Maybe if you don't work.

Maybe if you can produce everything you need out of nothing and will never need a store.

Puh-lease.

Comfortable air in your home isn't a right either.

That was my point.

I guess you do like temperature control.

[roamer65]

38. In honesty, I don't have a problem with $6 gas.

It’s rationing by price and will reduce consumption of it, for better or worse.

My car gets 41 mpg, so $6 a gallon is no big deal to me. The SUV I own is flex fuel so I can use cheaper E50 or E85.

[Mr.Bill]

41. Many cars will get less gas mileage at that speed.

Most cars these days are geared for maximum fuel efficiency at 65 mph. I know mine is.

[NickB79]

43. It's simple aerodynamics

The faster you push a vehicle through the air, the greater the air resistance. And at higher speeds, it increases at the square of speed, so doubling your speed quadruples your resistance.

It's a myth that vehicles get better MPG at faster speeds. Every car I've ever owned got better MPG at 50-55 mph than 75 mph.

[Mr.Bill]

44. My digital info on my dashboard

shows mine maxes out at 65. It drops off if I go faster than that. As they say, your mileage may vary.

You are right about aerodynamics. That's a big part of why pickup trucks get bad gas mileage. The trucks they are building today appear as if they are trying to build them with the worst aerodynamics possible.

[NickB79]

45. I've never gotten big trucks as commuter vehicles

Maybe it's because I grew up on a farm, where a truck was just another piece of machinery, and was beat to hell and back.

You want to drive a truck to work? With all the rust, dents, straw and manure on it?

[Mr.Bill]

46. The big change came when they started putting rear seats and four doors on them.

Some peopl honestly need a truck for their work. Now that truck can be the family car also.

[roamer65]

47. Same here.

A full size pickup truck was another tractor to us.

[Polybius]

57. States should be able to set it however low or high that they choose

Sometimes we can be too anti-states rights at times.

[iemanja]

25. The more effective approach

Is to use less gas.

[Celerity]

30. The word 'less' is blasphemy in 'Murica. MORE is the order of the day.

[sarisataka]

32. Why?

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Not too many days ago there was a long thread with many people posting that gas prices are not yet high enough.

[manicdem]

50. I'm with you

This is basically the green new deal happening. This forces the world to take climate change more seriously.

[ripcord]

37. I'm not feeling much sympathy for high gas prices for anyone outside of California

Others states only have lower prices because they arent charging enough in taxes to work on offsetting carbon emissions.

[Raine]

56. Agree, the high prices they complain about are what those of us in

California have pretty much been paying all along.

[rockfordfile]

40. That's not a bad idea picketing gas companies not the stations.

Better to vote out republicans who are corrupt with them.

[ZonkerHarris]

42. Since thousands of people with torches and pitchforks are not surrounding the HQ's of Exxon

and the other oil companies don't expect them to care and for this gouging to continue.

[manicdem]

49. Keep the prices high

This is actually a gift, save the environment. It forces people to do thinks like carpool or catch public transportation, and forces car manufacturers to build more energy efficient cars, and lead the charge for green energy.

[roamer65]

55. Bingo.

[Sympthsical]

51. Note the March for Our Lives event

DU isn't even really discussing it. It's a tiny point on news websites.

So, marching and signs may not be as effective as they used to be.