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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,946 posts)
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:03 PM Jun 2022

$100K trucks: The new American status symbol

Isaac Marchionna had always been a loyal SUV owner until he upgraded his Toyota 4Runner to a Ford F-150 Raptor, a massive truck with 450 horsepower and 510 lb-ft of torque, three years ago

Marchionna, who lives in Oregon, originally bought the $72,000 pickup to go off-roading in the Baja California desert. He soon realized that the Raptor had all the creature comforts he sought in a daily driver.

"It's aggressive and can bomb through a desert ... but drives like a big car, handles very easily and is a very plush ride," he told ABC News. "Just a pleasant driving experience around town."

Trucks have definitely become the "it" vehicle in the U.S., according to Ivan Drury, a senior manager at Edmunds. They now come equipped with features that once made luxury vehicles stand out. Plus, towing capabilities and bed size have increased in the latest generations.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/dollar100k-trucks-the-new-american-status-symbol/ar-AAYlU0U

Just what everyone needs in the time of $5 gal. gasoline.

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$100K trucks: The new American status symbol (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2022 OP
It's not just a status symbol. For some, it's a symbol of, "You're going to talk Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #1
If these also can be used to run the house during rolling blackouts, jimfields33 Jun 2022 #2
You're thinking of the F-150 Lightning Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2022 #4
Ah. Got it. jimfields33 Jun 2022 #5
Let's see what they think in 20 years. roamer65 Jun 2022 #3
I'm pretty sure they won't have the same vehicle. jimfields33 Jun 2022 #6
I don't want to hear anything about gas prices from these idiots. n/t Coventina Jun 2022 #7
The article says that Mr. Marchionna bought his truck 3 years ago. Harvey Wineburger Jun 2022 #11
You make the choice to buy a gas guzzler, you have no room to complain. n/t Coventina Jun 2022 #12
Well, I complain about food prices going up. Harvey Wineburger Jun 2022 #18
Our food prices have been artificially low for decades. Coventina Jun 2022 #19
You equate eating with choosing a gas-guzzling monster truck? SharonClark Jun 2022 #31
"I really don't think many saw that coming." llmart Jun 2022 #17
It's like they never saw the cost of gas fluctuate, or something. Coventina Jun 2022 #20
I wouldn't argue about the stupidity of the average American consumer. Harvey Wineburger Jun 2022 #26
The high gas prices caused by Republicans and the oil companies will work against that gulliver Jun 2022 #8
I'm curious if these are people of means or if they're mortgaging their future on a vehicle Auggie Jun 2022 #9
Cars don't appreciate, they lose value. Harvey Wineburger Jun 2022 #15
In normal times, yes. roamer65 Jun 2022 #21
I've owned 3 trucks since I've been able to drive. LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #10
Nothing say "manly" like a King Ranch edition. Chainfire Jun 2022 #13
Until a few years ago we had an F350 (that we rarely drove) with dual rear wheels. Coventina Jun 2022 #22
Yes they are jmowreader Jun 2022 #28
And it gets great mile gassage. keithbvadu2 Jun 2022 #14
We are Midwest where the bigger the better. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2022 #16
I guess I bottom out on the status scale... Chainfire Jun 2022 #23
Get a new mechanic EX500rider Jun 2022 #24
Not on a Ford Explorer Sports Trac. Chainfire Jun 2022 #27
I'd still get a second opinion EX500rider Jun 2022 #29
And wiring is good for more then 9 years, my 20yr old Ford Focus has no wiring issues EX500rider Jun 2022 #25
Sticking with my mini-van. sarcasmo Jun 2022 #30
Oh, after looking into (on-line)..the chevy ev hummer..starting at $106,000 asiliveandbreathe Jun 2022 #32
When I came of driving age, in 1961, pickups MineralMan Jun 2022 #33

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
1. It's not just a status symbol. For some, it's a symbol of, "You're going to talk
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:08 PM
Jun 2022

to me about climate change? You're going to tell me I can't do something? Look at this baby! Gets 7 miles to the gallon!"

It's screwing themselves in order to own the libs. Again.

jimfields33

(15,787 posts)
2. If these also can be used to run the house during rolling blackouts,
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:11 PM
Jun 2022

especially in California where they happen constantly. Then it’s probably a very smart decision to own one. Always look at the positives.

jimfields33

(15,787 posts)
6. I'm pretty sure they won't have the same vehicle.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:21 PM
Jun 2022

Although, I run my into the ground, a lot of people replace their cars in 10-15 years.

 
11. The article says that Mr. Marchionna bought his truck 3 years ago.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:29 PM
Jun 2022

Gas prices have at least tripled since then.

I really don't think many saw that coming.

 
18. Well, I complain about food prices going up.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:48 PM
Jun 2022

I guess I should just shut up about it and quit eating then.

Coventina

(27,115 posts)
19. Our food prices have been artificially low for decades.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:52 PM
Jun 2022

Kept low, in large part, by the artificially low cost of oil (to transport) and artificially low cost of labor.

It's about time Americans learn about the real cost of things, our subsidies have been killing the planet.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
31. You equate eating with choosing a gas-guzzling monster truck?
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 01:44 PM
Jun 2022

Only if you choose to eat filet mignon and gold dust on a daily basis.

BTW - Welcome to DU.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
17. "I really don't think many saw that coming."
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:47 PM
Jun 2022

The ill-informed ones never "see that coming". Same ones who didn't see the housing market collapse or even worse, the ones who did experience the housing market crash and a decade later bought a 3,000 sq. ft. house with next to nothing down.

Where was he during the Dubya years when gas was $4.00 a gallon?

Never underestimate the stupidity of the American consumer.

 
26. I wouldn't argue about the stupidity of the average American consumer.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 01:08 PM
Jun 2022

But that's also who votes when the time comes.

However, I've been driving since 1965, I certainly don't remember $4 gas until recently.

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
8. The high gas prices caused by Republicans and the oil companies will work against that
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:26 PM
Jun 2022

I like good old F-150s in any flavor. My family had a basic one when I was a kid. I absolutely loved it. I got to drive it when I was sixteen, and I'm pretty sure I took it up to about ninety.

It's an American made vehicle, made by good union workers. I'm 100% Ok with it. I do not resent it in any way or for any reason, and I think that's the way everyone should be. (I am strongly pro-environment, for example, and I don't want to see environmentalism's name tarnished by futile resentments against popular vehicles.)

I do wish Republican politicians, who coddle profiteering oil companies, weren't creating high gas prices that could lead to reduced truck sales. A lot of people who like the F-150 won't be able to get one, thanks to Republican politicians. If Dems had their way, we'd be windfall-profit taxing the oil companies, even regulating them like utilities. In effect, that's what they are, utilities. Utilities don't get to gouge people. Vote out all Republicans in every election and gas prices will be low again.

Auggie

(31,167 posts)
9. I'm curious if these are people of means or if they're mortgaging their future on a vehicle
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:27 PM
Jun 2022

Will a $100,000 truck appreciate the same way as, say, land?

 
15. Cars don't appreciate, they lose value.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:45 PM
Jun 2022
Car depreciation is a vehicle’s drop in value over time. Depreciation varies by car model, make, upkeep and other factors, but new car depreciation can generally be as much as 20% (or even more) in the first year and reach around 40% after five years.


However,

Pickups and SUVs are usually in high demand as used cars, so they retain a higher value than other vehicles; on the other hand, luxury sedans tend to depreciate faster. High-demand cars like Chevrolet Corvettes and Ford Mustangs also hold their value longer.


So there's that.

https://www.lendingtree.com/auto/how-much-do-new-cars-depreciate/

LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
10. I've owned 3 trucks since I've been able to drive.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:29 PM
Jun 2022

2 full size, and 1 smaller Ford Ranger.

My first full size was a 1988 F-150 work truck. No bells or whistles, crank windows, vinyl floor that you could hose out. No carpeting at all. 5 speed standard stick shift. 6 cylinder, so it had decent gas mileage.

I loved that truck and used it for what I needed to use it for.

I now drive a small fuel efficient car.

I would love to buy a basic, stripped down work truck, but I don't even know if you can buy something like that these days.

I wouldn't pay $100k for a truck, even if I was a millionaire.

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
13. Nothing say "manly" like a King Ranch edition.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:33 PM
Jun 2022

And if it is a F 450 with dual rear wheels, you are a redneck demigod. Of course everyone knows that these vehicles are woman magnets.



Coventina

(27,115 posts)
22. Until a few years ago we had an F350 (that we rarely drove) with dual rear wheels.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:56 PM
Jun 2022

Extended cab and bed.

That thing was a monster. Since it was red, we named it Clifford!



We only used it for camping and towing.
We finally got rid of it because we really didn't use it that much.

When we did use it, we certainly were not besieged by women!

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
28. Yes they are
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 01:16 PM
Jun 2022

And some guys LIKE women with four children who tune the radio to the country music station and glue the knob down.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
16. We are Midwest where the bigger the better.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:45 PM
Jun 2022

My neighbor loved vehicles. He bought a big truck without telling his wife. She said it set them back 12 years. And then they got divorced.

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
23. I guess I bottom out on the status scale...
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:57 PM
Jun 2022

My last three new vehicles have been Kia Rios.....But, I have money in the bank!

I get a lot of flack about my vehicle choice, but after 55 years of driving and owning all kinds of vehicles, I don't think that I have ever had better quality vehicle than the Kias, they just don't break.... I also own a Ford Explorer pickup, bought used, several years ago. It is 9 years old, about a hundred thousand miles and it is very close to becoming a junkyard dog...It has a blown head gasket and the estimate to fix it was $5,000.00. The mechanic recommended that I not fix it because it is about the age that all of the wiring harnesses fail; another two grand. I am considering turning it into a planter...

The truck still looks great, so I thought that I mint park it out buy the road, bed and cab full of petunias, with a sign that says, "Built Ford Tough."

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
27. Not on a Ford Explorer Sports Trac.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 01:15 PM
Jun 2022

The mechanic is an independent that was a Ford trained dealership mechanic for 20 years. He knows the vehicle and he knows why they were discontinued. I don't think that he is dishonest because he suggested that I not do the work! Bad head gasket or cracked head is apparently a replace engine thing with this vehicle.

EX500rider

(10,842 posts)
29. I'd still get a second opinion
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 01:21 PM
Jun 2022

It's just a stretched Explorer with the standard 4.0L V6 unless you have V8 engine option, the 292 hp 4.6L 24-valve Modular V8 used in the F-150 pickups. Either way it just a standard head gasket replacement.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
32. Oh, after looking into (on-line)..the chevy ev hummer..starting at $106,000
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 02:09 PM
Jun 2022

I guess I will keep my '04 chevy Black Avalanche..less than 100,000 miles..had since new..I wouldn't trade for anything..

But, love the commercial..crabwalk..watch the tires at the end..

?t=2

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
33. When I came of driving age, in 1961, pickups
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 02:31 PM
Jun 2022

were work vehicles. They were also cheap to buy. They weren't fast. They weren't fancy. If you wanted a heater and a radio, those were extra and a lot of people didn't get those on their pickups.

You could buy a small one, like the Ford Falcon Ranchero or a lightweight 1/2-ton pickup. You could also buy a long-bed 3/4 or even 1-ton pickup, but you wouldn't unless you needed it for what you did as work.

I've owned maybe two dozen pickups during my adult life. All of them were work trucks. Most of them were small pickups, with 4 or 6-cylinder engines. They served me well. I owned so many, because I only needed them sometimes. When I needed one, I bought a used one. When I didn't need one, I sold the one I had. All were at least 15 years old when I bought them. Generally, I sold them for the same low price I paid for them. So, they really cost me nothing to own.

The era of the fancy, go-fast pickup came later. These days, what's hard to find is a basic work-a-day pickup truck. They're not cheap anymore. Since a lot of guys want something to boost their own self-esteem, they're big, powerful, fast, and fuel hogs. Nobody wants small pickups or lightweight pickups any longer. It's too bad, because a lot of people still need a truck to work from and cheap is good. But, you can't get those any more. They just don't make them. Not enough profit in them.

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