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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:32 PM Jun 2022

The fake electors scheme: It seems the DOJ has made this a major focal point of their investigation.

This is what we know about the fake electors scheme. It was a major part of the Green Bay sweep, coup. We know is was Eastmans idea.

Navarro admitted to it on national TV. Oops!

Boris , one of Trump crooked lawyers, admitted on national TV Rudy was in charge of the scheme. There is a lot to work with right there.

They must be investigating all of the fake electors in certain states. Some who signed their names to a document that said they were the real electors. DUH!

The fake electors investigations could and should lead right to Trumps inner circle and the attempted coup. Bring on the indictments.

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bucolic_frolic

(43,027 posts)
1. I think you're right
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:35 PM
Jun 2022

We tend to think of a broad, national effort to overthrow the government, but in many ways local laws and narrow federal laws are stronger. Defrauding the United States for example. Wire and mail communications to defraud.

gab13by13

(21,234 posts)
3. 8 months ago I was begging DOJ to investigate the fake electors
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 12:44 PM
Jun 2022

because doing so leads to the White House.

Going after the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers most likely leads to Stone and Flynn and others who will never flip on Trump.

How long ago was it that the Michigan AG sent the criminal referral to DOJ?

DOJ had to know about the fake electors a year and a half ago because the national Archives rejected the fake elector documents, finally the National Archives had to also send a criminal referral to DOJ.

Why does it seem that DOJ needs referrals before it acts on coup plotters?

kentuck

(111,051 posts)
5. Also, I think it is possible some of the crimes can be tried under Federal charges?
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 01:02 PM
Jun 2022

Seems I heard that somewhere?

brush

(53,735 posts)
6. Navarro, Eastman, Rudy and the others involved has to be a...
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 01:42 PM
Jun 2022

collection of some of the dumbest people in politics. Why would a person with any critical thinking skills at all agree to sign fake electoral college documents that will become history, go to the Library of Congress and of course closely scrutinized by all.

I mean who would be stupid enough to commit a crime by signing that?

And who would put Rudy in charge of anything after the many debacles he had been involved in screwing up, including the farcical "Four Seasons Landscaping" disaster?

gab13by13

(21,234 posts)
8. It really isn't a dumb idea,
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 02:31 PM
Jun 2022

People better check out what each state's elector laws actually states. It's been a while since I looked it up but there are outs for some states to not accept electors from the candidate who won the election. This is why the House was working to safeguard the law, without the votes in the Senate what's the use?

brush

(53,735 posts)
13. It's absolutely a dumb idea. The actual EC electors in all those states...
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 03:55 PM
Jun 2022

where the criminal repugs were trying to submit "altenate" ones had already been certified and sealed by official authorities.

There was no way other ones could be substituted in without the whole political apparatus of each state moving to block such a move and howl like hell to the feds, media and anyone else who would listen.

And Rudy being in charge is always the first giveaway that illegal, criminal shenanigans were going on.

Boomerproud

(7,938 posts)
9. A huge problem that better be taken care of.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 02:35 PM
Jun 2022

Did we have this problem in past elections or is it a new phenomenon that right wing think tanks and provocateurs came up with while no one was looking.

brush

(53,735 posts)
14. Bingo. That's the best, most sensible solution, but it benefits republicans...
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 04:00 PM
Jun 2022

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mostly so they'll always be against eliminating it.

 

towerbum

(263 posts)
15. get rid gerrymandering,too just out - rite vote win or loose !
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 04:25 PM
Jun 2022

all this rules to benefit one side is stupid & should not benefit one side or the other ! may the best person win ! crap,forgot,- do better job of vetting of people ---- not just money !

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
12. So will Ginni Thomas be prosecuted for inciting insurrection by sending an email to arizona.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 03:32 PM
Jun 2022

She asked them to create their own slate of electors against the votes of Arizona voters. She did not riot, but she was certainly aiding insurrection and knew that as the wife of a Supreme Court justice, her voice would carry weight ti such a demand.

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