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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,985 posts)
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 01:56 PM Jun 2022

GOP Slapped Down Again For Jan. 6 National Guard Lie

Fact checker called out Republican leaders Friday over newly resurrected claims that President Donald Trump was not responsible for a no-show by the National Guard during the Jan. 6 insurrection last year.

Trump has repeatedly blamed House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) for blocking some 10,000 members of the Guard that day. But Pelosi has no control or jurisdiction over the National Guard in the District of Columbia. Trump does.

A number of media outlets, from USA Today to The Washington Post and CNN have debunked Trump’s claims that he called out the Guard and Pelosi blocked them protecting the Capitol.

Trump even boasted in a videotaped statement a day after the 2021 insurrection that he “immediately deployed the National Guard and federal law enforcement to secure the building.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-slapped-down-again-jan-041257259.html

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GOP Slapped Down Again For Jan. 6 National Guard Lie (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2022 OP
He did? No one told the Capitol or Metropolitan DC Police that... ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2022 #1
It was 20,000 yesterday morning on Fox underpants Jun 2022 #2
Ari Melber had a GOP Congressman on his show, gab13by13 Jun 2022 #3
MSM does this all the time, I consider them co conspirators to the GOP Cozmo Jun 2022 #6
I heard that... Chili Jun 2022 #23
Even when they are caught red-handed, they just keep telling the same lies over and over. Midnight Writer Jun 2022 #4
So what is the accurate timeline? Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #5
I posted this in another thread BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #15
Good info. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #19
There was quite a bit pundit mention of the demands for McCarthy to "do something" BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #21
Hey assholes! What about Mitch McConnell? GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #7
Neither Pelosi nor McConnell is in charge of the National Guard. n/t Mister Ed Jun 2022 #8
Yes. Exactly. GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #10
Yup. Absolutley right. n/t Mister Ed Jun 2022 #25
It take's time to get " PUTIN'S " clearance" to call N.G. unit ! towerbum Jun 2022 #9
It boggles the mind that these people thought it was perfectly fine to physically fight C Moon Jun 2022 #11
Please, Trump fired Sec. of Defense Mark Esper right after he lost and then installed Christopher .. Botany Jun 2022 #12
Signature style of a six year old learning cursive writing. AZLD4Candidate Jun 2022 #16
This, to me, is the KEY piece of evidence and controlling order of the day! liberalla Jun 2022 #22
Why was Miller writing about "riot control measures" 2 days before the actual riot? Botany Jun 2022 #24
I forgot about Charles Flynn! Yes, and he lied about being on a phone call... later admitting liberalla Jun 2022 #26
Lyin' MF'er spanone Jun 2022 #13
Trump had motive, means, opportunity, and tons of evidence against him IronLionZion Jun 2022 #14
Members of the New Jersey State Police arrived before the DC National Guard bottomofthehill Jun 2022 #17
Before the Guard Arrived the there were cops from bottomofthehill Jun 2022 #18
The only Rebl2 Jun 2022 #20

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,785 posts)
1. He did? No one told the Capitol or Metropolitan DC Police that...
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 02:02 PM
Jun 2022

As they fought hand to hand with the mob TDFG sent out.

underpants

(182,803 posts)
2. It was 20,000 yesterday morning on Fox
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 02:05 PM
Jun 2022

Oh yeah this is their big excuse. It’s not the cops fault when you commit a crime.

A little fun by the author of this article “Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) for some reason ...” that should pretty much always follow her name.

gab13by13

(21,337 posts)
3. Ari Melber had a GOP Congressman on his show,
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 02:23 PM
Jun 2022

who told Ari that Trump authorized 10,000 or 20,000 National Guard, I forget, but Speaker Pelosi shut it down, Ari responded, OK then.

Jen Psaki needs to replace Ari.

Chili

(1,725 posts)
23. I heard that...
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 05:18 PM
Jun 2022

...and screamed at him at the tv. Very disappointed in him for letting him get away with that. I did sense Melber had some passiveness with this liar, don't know why. He should have been aggressive like he was with Navarro.

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
15. I posted this in another thread
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 03:37 PM
Jun 2022

On January 6, Northam (who was governor of VA at the time) had their NG deploy -




Garrett Haake
@GarrettHaake
Two sources familiar tell me that @SpeakerPelosi & @MayorBowser have asked for the national guard to come to Capitol Hill to clear rioters. One of those sources says DOD has not yet approved change-of-mission for the DC guard.
2:56 PM · Jan 6, 2021





Governor Ralph Northam
@VAGovernor73
My team and I are working closely with @MayorBowser, @SpeakerPelosi, and @SenSchumer to respond to the situation in Washington, D.C.

Per the Mayor's request, I am sending members of the Virginia National Guard along with 200 Virginia State Troopers.
3:29 PM · Jan 6, 2021


As a lot of this was happening, there were all kinds of threads here on DU reporting what they had seen reported from various media outlets as well as social media. NPR has a good timeline here - https://www.npr.org/2022/01/05/1069977469/a-timeline-of-how-the-jan-6-attack-unfolded-including-who-said-what-and-when

An even more detailed timeline by GWU is here (with sources) - https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/news/foia/2022-01-06/capitol-riot-chronology

Baitball Blogger

(46,709 posts)
19. Good info.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 04:01 PM
Jun 2022

Interesting that at 2:56 pelosi and mayor bowser were working on contacting the national guard, but it was almost an hour later that Kayleigh Mcninny texted that Trump had called them in. Was she just making sure that Trump got the credit?

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
21. There was quite a bit pundit mention of the demands for McCarthy to "do something"
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 04:41 PM
Jun 2022

and demand that 45 "call off" the hoards. He first tweeted something about "being peaceful" and later put out some nonsense video.

I was watching it live as the session was going on inside and the chambers had broken away to debate objections when I think Lankford was speaking and suddenly he stopped and they called for recess subject to the call of the chair because apparently the insurrectionists were in the building and this was not long after 1 pm ET. I think at that point, CSPAN (which I normally watch) had started showing some of what was going on outside and inside and I switched to other channels.

The NG were "visibly seen/shown" rolling up in buses and deploying between 4 pm - 5 pm ET and Congress reconvened around 6:00 pm ET to continue where they left off. And since this was in January, it was already near dusk and much of the crowd had already left.

I have to scan CSPAN's video archives....

ETA - I ended up staying up until ~4:30 am the next morning to see them finish out the whole certification process.

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
7. Hey assholes! What about Mitch McConnell?
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 03:06 PM
Jun 2022

The Senate is a co-equal branch of Congress. If you are going to blame Nancy Pelosi, then you damn well better blame the head of the Senate on that day, as well. That was your boy, Mitchy. Lying, fucking hypocrites.

Good to see the media calling out GOP lies for a change. Keep it up, please.

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
10. Yes. Exactly.
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 03:26 PM
Jun 2022

Neither do, but they still blame only one, even though their guy is of equal stature in the situation. Sauce. Goose. Gander. Like I said, lying fucking hypocrites.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
11. It boggles the mind that these people thought it was perfectly fine to physically fight
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 03:27 PM
Jun 2022

with Capitol police. And then there are the boneheads behind them who saw others fighting with police, and decided it was okay and went into the building.

Those are the kinds of brains that are voting gop.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
12. Please, Trump fired Sec. of Defense Mark Esper right after he lost and then installed Christopher ..
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 03:28 PM
Jun 2022

.... Miller who wrote this stand down order for the D.C. National Guard 2 days before the attempted
violent coup by Trump's goons. The D.C. National Guard prior to this order had the authority to
respond to things like the 1/6/21 attack on America, the Constitution, the U.S. Congress, and the
Capitol Hill and D.C. Police.

liberalla

(9,247 posts)
22. This, to me, is the KEY piece of evidence and controlling order of the day!
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 05:11 PM
Jun 2022

Set up just TWO days earlier, purposely putting everything in Christopher Miller's hands.

I remember thinking at the time, as I am right now, what an odd list of items and actions that they are *NOT* permitted to do. Basically negating any appropriate and timely response to a "rally" that could turn ugly.

But that was the whole point, right?


Botany

(70,504 posts)
24. Why was Miller writing about "riot control measures" 2 days before the actual riot?
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 05:21 PM
Jun 2022

And If I remember it right Michael Flynn's brother was assigned to the Pentagon that day
and he blocked a # of requests for National Guard help.

liberalla

(9,247 posts)
26. I forgot about Charles Flynn! Yes, and he lied about being on a phone call... later admitting
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 06:03 PM
Jun 2022

to being on it for only 4 minutes but not speaking (others on the call heard him speak).

Everything's hinky with the story, and even the Army shifted their story as things unfolded.

Lt. Gen. Charles Flynn denies his relationship with brother Michael Flynn was a factor in military's response to Capitol attack

He has since received a 4th star and become Commanding General of the U.S. Army Pacific. (June 2021).

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
14. Trump had motive, means, opportunity, and tons of evidence against him
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 03:30 PM
Jun 2022

Dude should be in prison for this. People died because of it

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
17. Members of the New Jersey State Police arrived before the DC National Guard
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 03:57 PM
Jun 2022

The DC Guard, the protectors of the Capitol, they wear the Capitol Dome on their sleeve were beat to the Capitol by NJ State Troopers.

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
18. Before the Guard Arrived the there were cops from
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 04:00 PM
Jun 2022

Arlington, Fairfax, Prince William and Loudon Counties in VA, Prince Georges, Montgomery and Charles County MD, State Troopers from both states, a host of Federal Law Enforcement and even the NJ Troopers before the SC National Guard came…….

Rebl2

(13,507 posts)
20. The only
Sat Jun 11, 2022, 04:27 PM
Jun 2022

way Pelosi would have been able to do that was if tfg and pence had died. Then speaker of the house becomes President. Then she would have ability to call out the national guard.

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