I believe it would be wise if Garland indicted Trumps inner circle first, for this reason.

[fightforfreedom]

The trials and possible plea deals (people telling all) would be devastating and prove to all rational people (the majority) Trumps inner circle of traitors are guilty of trying to over throw our government.

In these trials and possible plea deals, Trumps name would be front and center. This would inform, prepare, the American people that Trump was the leader of the coup and may, should be, the first president in our history to be indicted. It would lesson the shock from a president being indicted. People would see it coming, be more accepting of it.

Indicting Trump first would be more of a shock to the system, people. Just my opinion.

[Phoenix61]

1. I've always thought that's why Garland has let

J6 take the lead. 20 million people were never going to watch a trial but they definitely wanted to hear what the J6 had to say. I’m very curious what the numbers will be for the next hearing.

[dem4decades]

2. How about we start indicting people? Bannon, Navarro, Ginni Thomas and the rest?

What is DOJ waiting for? If the House wasn't doing an excellent investigation, it appears as if these crimes would be water under the bridge.

[3Hotdogs]

4. 'splain to me.

What's everybody got against Gin-Gin Thomas? Seems like a sweet, old lady to me.





















Agnes, do you really need the sarcasm thing?

[dem4decades]

5. Funny, to me she has to be brought in and questioned and arrested if she is guilty of trying to over

throw the government. Otherwise, this country is just a set of rules for us poor folk and no rules for the connected.

[fightforfreedom]

10. What is the DOJ waiting for. I can tell you.

They are waiting for their investigations to be completed. How long does that take? It takes as long as it takes. There is no timeline.

This is not a jaywalking case.

[dem4decades]

12. Have they even called in anyone to be interviewed? The case is getting cold.

DOJ has power behind its subpoenas, time to put that power to good use. Get these motherfuckers under Oath and get them to either spill their guts or get indicted. I'm tired of hearing how long it takes to build a case, you can't start building till you get the needed materials.

[mopinko]

15. he's secured several plea deals w oaf creeps and proud babies.

he's building the case like you build such a case. it's in all the papers.
you can be tired, but it still takes time. people who refuse to cooperate take time to prosecute.

[dem4decades]

17. If they refuse to cooperate then bring charges, it's that easy.

Bannon is still on the air promoting civil unrest and threatening retribution, start fucking with these guys, let everyone know there's a price to pay.

70 or so people went to jail for Watergate, this is so much worse, let's get the ball rolling.

Roger Stone should be in cuffs already too.

[mopinko]

18. you are missing the thing called the court calendar.

while it might be prudent to set up a separate tribunal for these cases, even then, due process takes time.
hurry into court and you lose.

[dem4decades]

19. If you never subpoena them you never get to court. It's time.

[gab13by13]

22. Don't bother,

people don't understand that time is on the side of the traitors. Trump could have been charged as "individual one" in the Stormy Daniels campaign finance violation but the statute of limitations has run out. Same goes for Trump being indicted for numerous obstruction of justice crimes.

Instead our DOJ is defending Trump in the E. Jeanne Carroll defamation law suit because Garland is defending the office of the presidency. I guess an official duty of the president is defaming a woman who is accusing the president of raping her?

We are beyond the point of determining whether there is enough evidence to indict Trump. Laurence Tribe said last night there is evidence beyond a reasonable doubt to indict Trump for 3 or 4 crimes. What we are waiting for now is a momentous decision from Merrick Garland, indicting a former president.

[dem4decades]

28. They had decided not to charge "individual one" even before the statute of limitations ran out. It

appears Garland is defending institutions and that Donald J Trump is now an institution. The country is fucked.

What a waste of our time, the Mueller Report, the Cohen investigation, 2 impeachments, it's all for nothing, and what's going to make this any different?

The January 6th Committee has done a good job but they have no power and in fact may be out of business in the near future.

The future of the republic is in DOJ's hands, the same DOJ that let Individual One go and was the home of James Comey, the guy that plunged the dagger into Hillary's Presidential Campaign.

I have little confidence.

[JT45242]

3. Also SOP in this kind of case

This is really a RICO criminal organization. We have a bunch of privates, with Tarrio and a few of the proud boys, we have a handful of lieutenants.

Next step is the guys who took the direct verbal orders to give to those lieutenants. Guys like Meadows, stone, and Congress critters like Hawley, gym, Cruz, etc.

I want a transcript of what was said to McCarthy and Leningrad Lindsey to get them to change their tune.

[gab13by13]

24. I guess the Fulton county DA made a mistake?

Several people called Brad Raffensperger trying to get him to overturn the results of the Ga. election, but the Fulton county DA didn't piss around going after lower tier traitors, she went for the head of the snake.

[gab13by13]

6. Waiting to prosecute is a bad prosecutorial method.

Memories fade, the perps get their stories straight, evidence disappears, witnesses are tampered with.

Name me one prosecutor who believes it's a good idea to wait to prosecute when all kinds of evidence is hitting them in the face.

Prosecuting the militias will not lead to Trump.

[fightforfreedom]

8. What?

[gab13by13]

21. Isn't it too late

to indict Trump's inner circle first? Please define "first."

Just a guess on my part because I only listen to what former prosecutors say, but people who are behind the insurrection, behind the coup, are happy as pie that they have not been indicted yet, hell, some may not have even been investigated yet by DOJ.

Explain why DOJ keeps getting numerous referrals to prosecute individuals, if DOJ were doing its job it wouldn't need referrals. DOJ knew a year and a half ago about the fake elector scheme because the National Archives rejected the bogus documents and yet it took a criminal referral from the National Archives to DOJ before it acted.

[Novara]

25. Please list the numerous referrals

I know of four, for contempt of Congress.

The DOJ indicted 16 for seditious conspiracy so far and have SECURED FOUR GUILTY PLEAS. These people have been cooperating.

Patience.

[WheelWalker]

11. What law school did you attend?

[dem4decades]

14. Why attack gab? Laurence Tribe has said the same thing. Are you going to

Question Tribe's legal pedigree too?

[genxlib]

7. Strategically, it makes sense

But frankly, I would rather see all those second tier guys go down.

Don't get me wrong, TFD belongs in jail. I have my doubts that he will end up there but he certainly deserves it.

But he is a used up shell of a man at this point. I would rather see those other guys behind bars.

What scares me most is a smarter Trump-like character tapping into all of that experience.

Can you imagine a deSantis administration with Michael Flynn as the director of Homeland Security and one of those twisted lawyers in charge of Justice? You wouldn't have to go very far down the list to get the most frightening Cabinet in history.

My takeaway from Watergate, Iran-Contra and the Iraq fiasco is that the underlings always come back to haunt you later.

[mopinko]

16. see- beer bong boy is part of the ken starr team,

and here w are.
i'm w you. in this one case, i will take quantity over quality.

[kentuck]

9. Excellent!

I think you are right on target.

[Patton French]

13. Valid point.

Let the indictments roll!

[agingdem]

20. No...sedition/insurrection..not a contest

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no third/second/first runner up...we don't need a lead up..January 6 is Trump's "baby"..indict Trump...the rest will follow...48 years ago Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon ("...our long national nightmare is over"..), he was wrong, it was just beginning.."I could shoot somebody and not lose voters"...we need a reckoning..no more "easing" into the inevitable..we as a country are way beyond "shocked"...

[Novara]

23. Yep. This is the way to do it. Start at the bottom and work your way up, because ...

... those at the bottom are much more likely to flip in a deal to avoid prosecution or to lessen their sentence.

I want to see all of them barred from ever working in government again. EVER. Seems only a guilty plea or a conviction would have that end result.

I've said it before and I'll repeat it: after the committee has presented their evidence, We The People will pressure the DOJ to act and then heads are gonna roll. America will demand it.

Patience. It's gonna happen.

[gab13by13]

26. We don't need people to flip according to Laurence Tribe,

Tribe said last night there is enough evidence to indict Trump beyond a reasonable doubt for 3 or 4 crimes. When do you think a trial to convict a former president will take place? How long will it take from the time of his indictment. My basement estimate is 2 years from an indictment. 2024 would be pushing it, more like 2025.

[Novara]

27. I'm not a legal expert, are you?

Look, even the legal experts are guessing. Lawrence Tribe - as great as he is - is not privy to the physical evidence, nor are we. Have some patience. We've only had one hearing by the committee. By the time they've mapped it all out, we'll have a hell of a lot more concrete information. I predict it will be impossible for the DOJ not to indict the orange motherfucker.

I'd rather they take their time and get this right than rush and have cases dismissed left and right, wouldn't you? The fate of democracy and this country rests on them getting this absolutely nailed 100% right, and that takes time. That takes a lot of investigations. And the committee themselves have only recently obtained quite a bit of evidence.

Sure, I'd have loved for him to be in prison long ago. Maybe when he blew past the emoluments clause back in 2017. We all would have loved to never have experienced the last six years.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

29. The normal DOJ procedure is to build the case from the ground up

In addition to the Proud Boys/Oath idiots, I suspect that a number of people like Eastland and Meadows will be indicted before TFG

[Just A Box Of Rain]

30. That's the classic strategy to deal with mob bosses.

And TFG fits the profile.

Turn his associates first.

Wish it was happening at a more swift pace, but...